BTW, find some shit on Jindal or whatever his name is.

[Erin Elizabeth]

Also any major Republican figure who hasn't yet been in a scandal involving public bathrooms or little kids.

We need to find some dirty shit on them. You know they all have it. While Obama is doing the hard work of cleaning up messes, we can at least be making sure no decent candidate gets on the national radar for the republicans.

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Was Jindal born in the US? nt

[Erin Elizabeth]

2. Yep, Louisiana.

SHIT, dude is younger than I am!

Here's his wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

Watch that get scrubbed. Repubs are already salivating all over him as their 2012 pick.

[Nevernose]

3. Yes. n/t

[Erin Elizabeth]

4. So far

from wiki I have this:

Legislative pay raise controversy
On June 27, 2008, Louisiana's Secretary of State confirmed that a recall petition had been filed against Governor Jindal. Ryan and Kourtney Fournier filed the petition in response to Jindal's refusal to veto a bill that would more than double the current state legislative pay. The petitioners had 180 days to collect the signatures of over 900,000 registered voters to force a recall election on the ballot. If accomplished, a simple majority would have been needed to remove the Governor. During his campaign for Governor, Jindal had pledged to prevent legislative pay raises that would take effect during the current term.<19><20> Jindal responded by saying that he is opposed to the pay increase but that he had pledged to let the legislature govern themselves.<21>

On June 30, 2008, Governor Jindal reversed his earlier position by vetoing the pay raise legislation, stating that he made a mistake by staying out of the pay raise issue. In response, the petitioners dropped their recall effort.<22>

[DrToast]

14. I demand to see a birth certificate!

[ecstatic]

16. LOL! nt

:hide:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. you know, I never really heard the story about that and Obama

what was it? They say he doesn't have a valid US BC? Does he?

[nsd]

30. Yes, Obama does.

Don't fall for right-wing bullshit.

[Golden Raisin]

56. But it's written in Arabic

because everyone knows he's a Moslem. :sarcasm:

[No Elephants]

58. All Arabs are not Muslims and all Muslims are not Arabs. Therefore, there is no reason to assume

that Obama's birth certificate would be in Arabic, even if his Kenyan Daddy or his Indonesian step Daddy did cause Obama to be Muslim.

[Every Man A King]

64. Nope. Shhhhhhhh n/t

[babylonsister]

5. Would an exorcism work?

http://www.utne.com/2008-06-17/Spirituality/The-Exorcism-of-Bobby-Jindal.aspx?blogid=28

Or how about being attacked by the devil?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2003/11/7/191021/178

[parasim]

10. Wow, and here I was about say something like, come on, we don't need to go to the level of Freepers

you know, trying to take the high road here... and then I see your links... yikes! looks like we have another Pastor Muthee-type candidate.

What's with these right-wing nutcases and their witch hunts and exorcisms?

[Erin Elizabeth]

12. And honestly and in all seriousness....

when I read the paper today with all these Republicans already writing about who they are looking to for 2012 and they mentioned Jindal a lot, I started thinking like a political operative.....find shit on him NOW so he won't even be a factor. I don't care if Obama hasn't even been inaugurated yet, that's what gets you in trouble is resting on your laurels. Dude needs EIGHT years, not four. And I want to make sure he gets eight.

[parasim]

27. Yeah, I do understand where you're coming from...

It reflects the new way things are done. The candidates themselves don't even have to get into it. Leave it to us on the internet to get these things out there... For instance, the Obama campaign didn't have anything to do with any investigations into the life of the dufus Joe the Plumber, it was all bloggers on the internet snooping around and finding out about him not paying taxes, being on welfare, etc...

There's no reason not to expose these flimflams for what they are now and continue to stay a step ahead of the idiots.

[Erin Elizabeth]

28. Absolutely!

And someone should be watching his moves as governor. I did that once with a state rep, watched every vote he made, everything he did (from a distance of course, I'm no stalker) and when it came time for him to run for re-election, I had tons of shit to give to his Dem opponent. Slimebag lost, big. Hee.

[babylonsister]

13. Ha! I'd never go to that level; he did it all by himself! nt

[parasim]

18. Yep. It's like taking candy from a baby. nt

[PaDem]

29. that's not gonna hurt him a lick.......

there's gotta be something out there though.

[prolesunited]

67. Maybe not with the base

but the moderates and independents might view that as a little whacked.

[bushisanidiot]

71. Holy crap! Jindal is a nutcase!!

he and others held a girl down and forced her to read the bible??!!?!

that's frickin' INSANE!!

no way will he ever be taken seriously after that. there will be plenty of witnesses to attest to everything he's done in this case, and others. and i'll bet there's a video-tape somewhere too.

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75. Alerted

[Nevernose]

7. He's a secret Hindu.

According to Wikipedia, he's a secret Hindu. Well, he was Hindu until he converted to Catholicism in high school, but by Freeptard-Obama logic, that makes him the antichrist, right?

And on a serious note -- there's no way this guy'll fly with the base. Folks in Louisiana have had years to get used to him and -- let's face it -- haven't had much better political leadership since the Caddo all died from smallpox. He's brown, he's a convert, and he's a Catholic. The racist base of the Republican party won't let this fly. Obama was a groundbreaking step for black liberals, but the conservatives are going to vote for David Dukes before they vote for thsi guy.

[Erin Elizabeth]

9. I agree with your last paragraph if we're talking about their base

however independent voters just might like him.

Who knows, he's probably a non-starter, but I thought it might be interesting to try to dig up some stuff on him/watch him starting NOW.

[LeftishBrit]

63. 'the conservatives are going to vote for David Duke before they vote for this guy'

IIRC, the Louisiana Republicans once DID nominate David Duke for governor! Fortunately, he lost; but this was one of the things that introduced me to the true scariness of the Republicans.

[Mike Daniels]

66. Duke got the nomination and every nationally elected Republican said vote "Dem"

vs. staying home or going Ind. If I recall correctly, George HW Bush even said on camera that the Democratic candidate was the only right option in that particular race.

[Erin Elizabeth]

8. Here's something from the Huffington Post back in May when his

name was being floated around as a possible VP pick:

The fact that Jindal's second-highest paid campaign staffer turned out to be an energy lobbyist might not be the best issue for a presidential candidate who is fighting a "perception problem" on the very same issue. Also, Jindal has agreed to pay a $2,500 fine in order to avoid an ethics hearing due to his failure to accurately report over $118,000 worth of in-kind contributions from the state GOP.

Other issues that could gain traction in any fall campaign against Jindal run the gamut from the personal to the wonky. Among the former, there is the wild and controversial claim that Jindal, a convert to Catholicism, witnessed an exorcism (though state Democrats ultimately decided against employing this "issue" last year). Meanwhile, on more substantive grounds, though McCain came out against a federal marriage amendment in 2004, Jindal voted yay on the matter as a House member in 2006. Jindal was also viewed as the most fervently anti-abortion candidate in the governor's race, telling the Times-Picayune, "I am 100 percent anti-abortion with no exceptions. I believe all life is precious." McCain and Jindal also hold opposing views on the creation of new embryonic stem cell lines for medical research. While these issues could help intensify support for the eventual Democratic nominee in moderate to liberal circles, they would also likely strengthen McCain's hand among the evangelicals for whom his candidacy has occasionally proved a tough sell.

Elsewhere in his evaluation of Jindal's record, LSU's Sadow identified "the bad" as the governor's awkward and late embrace of a tax cut proposal put forward by Republican State Senator Buddy Shaw. Senate Bill 87, still working its way through Louisiana's legislature, would roll back an add-on to the state's income tax code that is opposed by many conservatives and some Democrats.

"Clearly Jindal's handling of SB 87 has been about the only mistake he's made ... politically," Sadow said. "While Jindal never promised any individual income tax cuts during the campaign, he said he hoped to to do so and even eliminate the income tax. Yet his unexplained hesitancy to embrace even one that seemed quite 'affordable' mystified many, especially among his supporters."

The bill's author, perhaps once perturbed, now sings Jindal's praises, however. "I just think that he would be an excellent choice ," State Sen. Buddy Shaw told
The Huffington Post. "Given his energy output and intellectual capability ... I would see it as good for Louisiana and good for the country." Still, Shaw hopes Jindal's ascension doesn't occur too quickly, since his tax cut bill is still working its way through the conference committee. "I hope he's not on the campaign trail prior to signing that bill," Shaw admitted. "If he leaves, I'm not sure what the incoming individual would do."

Louisiana state Democrats are clearly trying to make an issue out of Jindal's potential abandonment of his duties for the national stage. In a press release issued rapidly after news broke Wednesday of Jindal's upcoming visit with McCain, Louisiana Democratic Party Chairman Chris Whittington said: "The Louisiana Democratic Party has said repeatedly throughout his campaign for governor that Jindal will cut and run the minute he gets a shot at a higher office. Now, not six months into his term, his eye is on the prize of the Vice Presidency with little focus on what is going on here in Louisiana."

The extent to which claims by Jindal's critics will stick ties into the problem Sadow labeled as "the ugly" part of the governor's tenure thus far. While Jindal is currently coasting on a sky-high 77 percent approval rating, Sadow said this is in spite of a sputtering public relations machine. "Where Jindal has come up shortest is in his administration's ability to communicate effectively its policy preferences as opposed to its much superior efforts in conveying a campaign agenda," Sadow said, suggesting that Jindal believes the local media will be against him no matter what.

"He has cooperated with the media only when it suits him," Sadow noted. "However, in part it also is just lack of skill. The SB 87 incident is the best example, where the administration totally misread the public and legislative mood. As a result, it had to grab onto the caboose rather than jump into the cab of that juggernaut train. For example, had he given a principled explanation -- and he had a good one -- to what appeared to be his opposition to the bill, he probably would have suffered little political damage. But either he couldn't or he thought non-communication about it would work. It didn't."

[LiberalFighter]

49. What has he done since Katrina?

[JoFerret]

11. Don't fret. He's just some immigrant foreign type with a

dark skin and a foreign name. No-one will care.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

15. Here's a pretty funny "forward this" email someone on another board wrote.

It's written in a certain familiar style...

If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts... this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States... better heed this and pray about it and share it.

Who is Bobby Jindal?

Probable U.S. presidential candidate, Piyush 'Bobby' Jindal was born in Baton Rouge, Lousiana, to Amar Jindal, an Indian REPUBLICAN from Punjab and Raj Jindal, a REPUBLICAN information technology director.

Jindal takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a REPUBLICAN. He is quick to point out that he attended Brown University and was elected to office after Hurricane Katrina. Jindal's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.

Jindal's introduction to Republicanism came via George H.W. Bush, and this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Bush returned to Texas soon after Jindal's political awakening, and never again had any direct influence over his indoctrination.

Jim McCrery, a REPUBLICAN congressman, introduced his protege to Republicanism during the Gingrich Revolution of 1994. Jindal was enrolled in the Republican Party in Lousiana. Republicanism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by wingnuts who are now waging cultural warfare against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a MODERATE when seeking major public office in the United States, Piyush 'Bobby' Jindal has presented himself as a reformer in an attempt to downplay his Republican background.

Piyush 'Bobby' Jindal will NOT support progressive policies nor will he show any reverence for our constitution. While others proudly voted for change, Jindal slouched and supported four more years of the policies of GEORGE W. BUSH.

Let us all remain alert concerning Jindal's expected presidential candidacy.

The Republicans have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!

[No Elephants]

59. LOL, thanks for the laugh. BTW, I had no idea Jindal once was a little piyushy!

[opihimoimoi]

17. The dude has some serious baggage...he won't get far...

[madmom]

19. He didn't convert to catholicism till in high school, so how many

years of indoctrination was that as opposed to Obama? And I'm pretty sure that is NOT an American name.

[rug]

20. Send him nude photos of yourself. We'll take care of the rest.

[Erin Elizabeth]

21. Hmmmm.

But a plain old male female affair isn't going to cut it, is it? ;)

[rug]

26. Afraid not. You'll just have to step up and be creative.

:patriot:

[Erin Elizabeth]

32. Well, if it's for my country.....

:rofl:

[ecstatic]

34. hehe

:rofl:

[Tatiana]

41. Remember, "Country First"

:rofl:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. He supports mandatory castration of sex offenders

[Erin Elizabeth]

25. No WAY. Is that true?

Wow.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Yep. I'm in New Orleans. I think it may have actually been a law

that was passed here - didn't get much coverage. I remember hearing him say, First offense - voluntary; second mandatory. I think there are so many crimes that people commit that will some day be understood by more discoveries of the human brain. I bet the vast majority of sex offenders would volunteer if they knew it would make them stop?

[RoadRage]

68. Although I disagree with this...

I have a relative who was wrongly accused of abusing his step daughter.. spent 8 years in prision before he was released early because she accused 3 other men of abusing her as well AFTER he was already in prision. Never mind the fact that she couldn't ID any moles or scars on him that he had.. couldn't give specifics.. etc. If you're 13 and you're mad at your step-dad because he won't let you go to a party until 2am.. the best way to get him out of your life is to get him put into jail.

So, i'm very much against chemical castration... unless there is very obvious video and/or DNA evidence.. and it's apparent that the offender will not be rehabilitated. But, in that case - why are they out in the first place?

But, I digress.. back to Jindahl.. this is one area I wouldn't focus on. Most people here "castration of sex offenders" and start going wild.. whooo hooo! This guy is Tough.. he ROCKS. So.. let's hit him other places.. KWIM?

[TheDonkey]

23. Jindal is not a threat.

but I agree we've got to be prepared for 2012! But it'll be nice to finally have the DNC AFTER the RNC hate-fest.

[Erin Elizabeth]

31. Isn't it true that something like 80% of the US supports

reproductive choice?

Well dude is even worse than Sarah Palin here: he's against abortion in 100% of cases, in ALL CASES. Rape, incest, I'm assuming life of the mother, because he said 100% of the time, NO exceptions.

Whew. Most people won't like that and independent voters SURE don't tend to like that. I think that'll put him out of the running, to be honest, unless they get him to tone that down.

[RayOfHope]

35. His terrible hair should be enough to disqualify him. What is up with bad southern

repub hair?

[Robeson]

38. SBPLS - Southern Baptist Preacher Look Syndrome...

...it's contagious with politicians down here.

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[AtlMike]

39. 1971?

Please tell me we're not ready for a president who was born in the 70s. He's only 2 years older than I am - that makes me feel old.

[Jennicut]

44. I personally think he is too young. If Obama at 47 was "young" Jindal is a baby.

And yes, as someone who was born in 1975, I think a 70's born prez is too soon! Actually, Jindal would be only 41 if he runs in 2012, too young to me.

[Athens30603]

55. Hell, he IS my age! TOOO YOUNG!!! :) n/t

[xanadu1979]

40. I hate to say it, but he's good.

I live in Louisiana. I'm a hardcore Democrat and have never voted for a Republican before. But even I have to admit that the man is a great Governor. The people of this state, dem and rep, generally adore him. He's super-intelligent, gets things done, and even though he's very religious, it doesn't come out in his policies.

If he waits until '16 to run and the Democrats don't put up another superstar like Obama, I don't see how I couldn't vote for Jindal.

[merh]

42. Really?

How's the rebuilding of NOLA going?

Any movement on replacing the public housing that has been torn down?

What's the population of NOLA now compared to what it was prior to Katrina?

How about that crime rate?

Yes, you can blame a lot of the NOLA problems on Nagin, but not all and if Jendal is the executive of the state with an eye on a future in politics beyond where he is now, then one would think NOLA would be his pet project so he has a shining star to point to and say "see what I can accomplish."

[AlCzervik]

45. wow you're a regular fanboy, so please list how fabulous things are there in la

and please, be specific.

[Erin Elizabeth]

46. So you're cool with his no exceptions in any case, no abortions ever

thang?

[blitzen]

48. I also live in Louisiana, and I consider him a horrible governor....

I agree with you that his favorability rating in the state is high. But he's playing right out of the tired old right-wing playbook. Why in the hell did he think we needed a hiring and spending freeze when we have a record fiscal surplus, rather than investing in improving education, etc., for the long-term benefit of Louisiana? I know why--so he could build his repuke cred and then run for Prez. And, as I mentioned in another post, he is in fact a boring, lousy, uber-wonky campaigner, and will fade quickly when he gets in the limelight.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

51. Wow, he sounds like a male Palin.

Except for the "super intelligent" part. Oh well, can't win them all.

[anneboleyn]

52. LPCT.

[Robeson]

53. Wow, so you've been here since 2004. Well, you do keep your powder dry.

[Every Man A King]

65. sounds like Palin huh? lmfao n/t

[blitzen]

43. No need for any shit...He has zero charisma and is a lousy campaigner...

He only won because Blanco was discredited by Katrina and the Dems didn't put up any decent alternatives. Trust me, when people see this guy on the stump, they will tune him out. He is the wonkiest of wonks.

[Feron]

47. He signed a bill allowing creationism in schools.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/science_law_could_set_tone_for.html

[Erin Elizabeth]

50. Yikes!

Ok nevermind people, this guy looks like the usual wad of shit from the republicans. Not a whole heck of a lot to worry about here, especially if what one person on this thread said is true--that he's not a great speaker, a big wonk, and a bad campaigner. Emily Litella: NEVERmind!

[Robeson]

54. Jeez. Disgusting. Oh well, someone up-thread is just all gooey about him...

...go figure.

[No Elephants]

57. His appreciation of exorcisms is a start.

[JohnMcCant2008]

60. He's a double-secret, covert Muslim who LOOOOOOVES abortions and universal Health Ins.....

[greymattermom]

61. Brown

He's a brown person, his real first name isn't Bobby, figure it what it is and call him that, and I suppose he's a Hindu too.

[sclerite]

62. I have something

I got a smear mail two weeks before the election with the standard smears about Obama being a Muslim and all the regular garbage. I have no idea how I got on the email list, but it was sent from a small oil exploration company president in Louisiana to other oil execs, an assortment of people I don't know, and Governor Jindal. I forwarded it and my response to the parties and the Obama team at Fight the Smears.

[zulchzulu]

69. He's a charter member of the American Taliban

Sure, there are Repigs who agree with his anti-choice brain...but then again, they are racist. They will NEVER vote for one of them foreigners...

[LynneSin]

70. Jindal will never get the nomination, the republicans are still too racist

they may accept him as a VP but I doubt he could pull out a win in a GOP primary.

Plus Jindal has to win his next election in Louisanna and I don't think that is happening anytime soon.

[burythehatchet]

74. Republicans are racist? Have you checked the OP and the replies? I'm of Indian descent

and I find it remarkable how people have no problem being racist bigots when they aren't part of the minority being bashed.

[Erin Elizabeth]

76. Alert on THOSE particular posts, that's the right way to deal with it.

I do think those people are being tongue in cheek (reflecting on how Obama was treated) but they probably need to use the sarcasm tag in that case.

But seriously, alert on the ones you think are alertable, but why start a whole other thread about this? *I* was looking at him as a REPUBLICAN and a possible contender in 2012.

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