Farrakhan says Obama draws a 'oneness of spirit'

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Farrakhan says Obama draws a 'oneness of spirit'

By SOPHIA TAREEN – 1 hour ago

CHICAGO (AP) — After months of silence about his support for Barack Obama, Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said in an address Sunday that the new president-elect has a God-given capacity to handle any burdens he'll face as the nation's leader.

Farrakhan added that Obama will be able to make positive changes only with help from "God and people of goodwill," and he urged followers of the Chicago-based black nationalist movement to do their part.

"President-elect Obama has energized all segments of the depressed, downtrodden, rejected and despised," he said in a 90-minute speech at Mosque Maryam on the city's South Side. "Now it is up to us to take the new energy that he has given us ... and channel that energy into making ourselves better."

Dressed in intricately decorated red and gold robes and a matching fez, the once-ailing 75-year-old leader spoke to more than 1,000 followers in an address called "America's New Beginning: President-elect Barack Obama."

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[BrklynLiberal]

1. Good news..

[Captain Hilts]

2. Farrakhan is a raging anti-Semite and sexist. I don't want to hear from him. nt

[emilyg]

4. That makes two of us.

[Athens30603]

3. Snore.

The best thing Farrakhan could do for Obama is be quiet.

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[MadBadger]

6. Im glad hes speaking up now, and not last week

[Clio the Leo]

7. Yep, thanks Louis for keeping quiet all this time. NT

[Colobo]

8. Maryam... that's my girlfriend's name. She's Argentinian of Syrian descent.

[leftstreet]

9. "channel that energy into making ourselves better" :puke:

I hate that New Agey personal choices crap.

[bridgit]

10. Farrakhan is reading it right, Barack has proven that it is possible to rise above...

Others are saying that because of Obama's accomplishment, albeit with the help of a good many people whites included; there can be no more blaming others for the condition one finds one's self in. No more whining & carping about how others have held us down, time to take personal responsibility. Which has been part of Farrakhan's message for some time, certainly as it relates to The Nation of Islam, and America and her people beyond

I heard part of the address. I like listening to Louis Farrakhan, his voice can be melodic/lyrical, and his message inspired.

[bridgit]

11. oh & k&r'd...

:kick:

[Captain Hilts]

12. It's okay to be anti-Semetic and sexist? Who knew? nt

[bridgit]

15. Do you mean anti-sexist or anti-gay?

[cali]

16. I don't know what the other poster means but I do know that all hate merchants suck

and that's precisely what Farrakhan has been- a hate merchant. Screw him.

[bridgit]

20. Hm, then some will have a problem separating Barack Obama from the people...

that have supported his visage in the past and up to the present and it would seem into the future.

[cali]

22. want to translate that into English?

It's poorly written and makes zero sense. Why will some people have a problem separating Obama from Farrakhan? Obama has repudiated Farrakhan in the strongest of terms and it's almost impossible to imagine Obama supporting the hate speech that Farrakhan has uttered repeatedly over the years.

[bridgit]

28. Oh it's in English, you're just not able to understand it...

[cali]

30. it's in word salad like at least one other post of yours on this thread

sorry, comprehension is really not my problem. A low tolerance for word salad gobbledy gook is.

[bridgit]

34. "word salad" is what lazy people call the opinions of others, but let's review...

"It's poorly written and makes zero sense." - you know perfectly well that to make incoherent posts is to court being TS'd. If that's the way you feel seeing as how you're so important around here, cali; and that is the way you feel, then contact DU admin as the head of a list of my detractors and have me banned. In time I'll come back around, and if I am banned I'll know that it was you.

"Why will some people have a problem separating Obama from Farrakhan?" - for openers you're having a hell of a time, though not to put too fine a point on it it was "some will have a problem separating Barack Obama from the people that have supported his visage in the past, etc, etc", others, others, cali, and not per se Farrakhan but you know, I suppose that's your strong suit, you really only care about what concerns you. A narrow landscape, but a landscape nonetheless

"Obama has repudiated Farrakhan in the strongest of terms and it's almost impossible to imagine Obama supporting the hate speech that Farrakhan has uttered repeatedly over the years." - ya'think? Do you think he had to? It's a lawyerly thing to be able to separate issues while turning them in 3-D space...inside your head. To understand the specific gravity of words and believably speak upon either side of an issue, while, perhaps even, agreeing with neither. Harvard Law Review is not Mad Magazine but you knew that, right?

It's clear to many; your fan base & detractors alike - even to me, that the one thing you're able comprehend above all else is your opinion of yourself. What you've invited once again, is this "GOD DAMN AMERICA!!" ignorance of so-called Obama supporters still not merely parsing their words but, yes, tossing their little salads something/anything rather than understanding what's really going on in the process of maintaining their own personal forms of prejudice & bigotry of one group over another. Good work :thumbsup: But my recommendation is this...

As far as you are able stay; away from Marcus Aurelius:

"Let it be your constant method to look into the design of people's actions, and see what they would be at, as often as it is practicable; and to make this custom the more significant, practice it first upon yourself."

[Captain Hilts]

35. Thank you. Anti-semetic and a sexist. There, that's clearer. nt

[riderinthestorm]

13. Please! No more "appointed by Gawd" leaders, or annointed by gawd leaders

or leaders who hear the voice of gawd, or any of that shit!

I am thoroughly sick of American leaders having to pass these religious litmus tests for religious folks to be followers. It's a terrible precedent for our country.

I am so glad that Farrakhan kept his mouth shut during the campaign.

[sfam]

14. Truly, who cares what Farrakhan says? nt

[ej510]

17. Whether you guys like him or black people listen to Farrakhan we may not always agree, but

we listen. The only thing he said was to be self-reliant and to help him govern. Isn't that we talk everyday?

[cali]

19. really? all black people listen to Farrakhan?

And it's not what he said here, it's his ample history of having spewed ugly hate speech that I object to. I have the same regard for him that I have for Pat Roberts.

[ej510]

21. Yes really! We listen. We may not always agree but we listen. He put together the million man march

to help young black be better men and better fathers.

[cali]

24. I can't stand it when people have the hubris to think they can speak

for others, let alone a large population of people. It's just wrong. I'm sure a great many black people do listen to Farrakhan. I'm equally sure others have no use for whatsoever.

[marimour]

32. A lot do. He has been more of a positve force than negative in our community

especially in prisons. I have been to NOI mosques when I used to date a guy in it and I tend to enjoy most of the message and laugh inside/tune out the crazy stuff. I think he really regrets those incendiary days based on some of his comments lately and I wish he would move towards mainstream islam. But even a lot of black christians listen to his talk about empowering the community and don't see him as the evil that a lot of the rest of society does.

[cali]

33. I get that. I think it's akin to the fact that lots of white people listen to Pat Robertson

They've both purveyed too much hate. Robertson's sounding real conciliatory these days too. Doesn't excuse his past.

[bridgit]

23. A message of self-reliance woven through much of what Farrakhan has said, yes

[ej510]

25. That's why I said that we do not agree with everything he says. I'm black and my grandfather was

jewish, but I use to be in the NOI.

[bridgit]

27. I hear & appreciate you, I suppose not everyone is able to multi-task...

the thoughts of others in with what they think their thoughts are

[zulchzulu]

18. Gee thanks, Louis...

Now go climb back into your hole.

[jonnyblitz]

26. delete , wrong thread,

how i ended up in the wrong thread is beyond me.

[dascientist]

29. I thought Minister Farrakhan overall gave a good speech

There was some elements I didn't agree with, but over all, he was in support of Obama, which is why he didn't speak on him until after the election was over, in order to not inflate a Rev. Wright type of situation. The parts I didn't agree with were the whole "God is bringing these storms and natural disasters to america because how Black People are treated". I don't agree. I am Black and I am a "humanist". To me, it's just been poor civic engineering and city planning in terms of choices of living for ALL PEOPLE including black people who are concentrated heavily in the urban areas of these poorly conceived civil engineering developments. Peace.

[NYDem Observer]

31. While we all certainly may not agree with the messenger

I certainly agree with the message. Farrakhan has always been about the upliftment of black people and it starts with personal responsibility, how could one find fault with that overall message.