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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:14 AM
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Scab just said FUCK YOU on live TV
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 08:33 AM by nomaco-10
WOW

Talking about Emanuel. He has really lost it when it comes to Rahm.

Edited to add context: talking about Emanuel. It will be his job to tell some people FucK You. Paraphrasing. I'm sure there will be a you tube.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:14 AM
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1. Yep. nt
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Cnote1 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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10. This may be the end of Scarborogh
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:17 AM
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It had better be.
You know damn well Olbermann or Maddow wouldn't be working if they'd screwed up like that.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:29 PM
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94. could be Keith's re-up put him over the edge
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rdublue Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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22. A lawyer just wrote him if he needs a job he can help
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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24. I wish, but I doubt it. nt
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Cnote1 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:14 AM
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2. He is so Embarrased
LOL I cant believe He said it. And now he is Lying
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:14 AM
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3. I heard it! On MSNBC...isn't that a fine?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:51 AM
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83. No. THe FCC doesn't regulate "indecent" speech on cable.
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:14 AM
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4. Heard it! What the F is going on?! He is losing his mind. LOL
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:15 AM
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Context?
:hi:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:18 AM
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17. He was trying to rip on Rahm Emmanuel by saying that
others who could or did have that COS job would be going around telling people "Fuck you" in the course of doing the work. That is kind of the gist of it, but he definitely said it.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:15 AM
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5. Mika just clarified for him that he meant to say the letter
but almost said the word.

As if we don't have ears.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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6. He's irrational when Emanuel is concerned
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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7. Please enlighten those of us who missed it.
What did he say it in reference to?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:26 AM
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32. He was on a Rahm rant and indirectly quoted Rahm.
:rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:31 AM
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40. Thanks!
Potty mouth Joey Scar exposed! Priceless!

:rofl:
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rdublue Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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8. sure did!!! holy cow, what will they do now
his wife is not happy
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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9. who did he say it to?
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Cnote1 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:17 AM
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14. He Almost Just said Dick!!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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18. He was referring to something someone else said
Not really sure on the details. But he definitely used the words "fuck you". All the lil' round table kids perked up. Mike Barnicle was positively giddy.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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11. Seriously? Not "the F word," or "Eff You," but actually
f u c k?

If so...nice knowin' you, Joe.

Ya know who did a nice morning show, who's available? Sam Seder. you think MSNBC might be calling him now?
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rdublue Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:21 AM
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26. yes, the actual word
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:23 AM
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29. The actual word, clear and concisely.
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Shux Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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12. He can't talk his way out of this one
too funny!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:28 AM
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37. He can't, but Mika sure is trying her best!
Hilarious!

Joe's ship is sunk. Oh well, maybe Fox will hire him.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:58 AM
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65. Not watching, but that's got to be even more entertaining than the slip itself.
I heop the YouTubes don't edit that part out!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:17 AM
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13. I rewound the DVR and listened to it over and over.
Well, Joe... It's been nice knowing you.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:17 AM
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15. who did he say it to?
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:21 AM
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25. He was giving an example of things that Rahm Emmanuel can't run around saying.
Seriously.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:16 PM
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96. I guess he forgot, he can't either! nt
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:22 AM
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27. He was talking about
Rahm Emanuel and how he would be as CoS. It wasn't addressed to anyone in particular.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:17 AM
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16. His irrational hatred of Emanuel just burst through. I knew that was
going to come out eventually.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:36 AM
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47. He's completely obsessed with Emanuel, so much so, couldn't control his mouth.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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19. It was said in the context that Rahm would be the kind of guy....
to either say it to you or be told that when dealing with people. YOU TUBE soon I hope.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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20. How do you know when you're doing something right?
When you're pissing off the Republicans.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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21. I don't know, but my sensibilities have been seriously offended.
I might have to complain to the FCC.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:20 AM
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23. Get those FCC complaints entered: Link
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 08:22 AM by Hokie
Here is a link to the online form:

http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:23 AM
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28. Thank you.
Time for DUers to lead a coordinated campaign here. We should be contacting MSNBC, too.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:45 AM
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53. Contacting MSNBC right away but I have a question.....
Joe must have a lot of strong connections because they never let him go no matter what --

Was the head of MSNBC in the office when the intern met her untimely departure? Perhaps the MSNBC chief and Joe were having a party of three?

Why was the investigation shut down so quickly?
Do you think MSNBC has seen the many web entries that talk about the incident?

If not, shouldn't we let them know about Joe?

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html


With all the half way decent commentators,why does Joe still keep standing? :shrug:

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:51 AM
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59. I would suggest
that in order to be taken seriously, we stick to the simple point that Mourning Joe said "fuck" on live tv.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:06 AM
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69. Got it
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:08 AM
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87. Done.
I have no problem with obscenities on the air FWIW, but they use this tool all too often against everyone else and for once it would be nice if they got a taste of their own medicine.

Rp
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:25 AM
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30. Oh, I was hoping that someone would post a link to this!
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 08:30 AM by Hepburn
Thanks! :hi:

Edit to add: Complaint sent ~~ and I printed out my complaint number!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:43 AM
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80. I printed mine as well. He needs to go! He would be more comfortable
at fox anyway. Let's help him out!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:27 AM
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34. What time, approximately, did this occur? nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:32 AM
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41. 8:13 am est
n/t
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:33 AM
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42. Thank you!
I just sent my complaint. I was thinking about putting, "Please, why don't you think of the Children!" but I took the high road and described it just as it happened.
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:34 AM
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43. Don't waste your time
FCC has no oversight over cable. They can say anything and only have their advertisers to answer to.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:35 AM
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44. then why does the complaint form ask about cable?
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:36 AM
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46. It's the government. Nothing makes sense.
I reported something said on Fox and got back a response from the FCC to the effect that they don't do cable.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:38 AM
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48. here you go
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 08:40 AM by yourguide
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/complain.html

Indecency and obscenity. Generally, the rules concerning the content of programming on cable channels are not as strict as the rules concerning programming content on non-cable channels. If you object to programming on a cable system, you may contact the FCC to determine what rules may be applicable and what action may be appropriate.


Sorry, dropping the F bomb first thing in the morning is beyond, in fact the F bomb is even bleeped on comedy central during the evening (Jon Stewart). I believe it's only on the a la carte pay networks that they don't govern.
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:56 AM
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63. What do I know? I'm still trying to figure out why this thread is in GDP!
This thread and the others in GDP on fuckyougate shows just how much we miss the chaos.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:50 AM
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81. Part of solving the problem...
is taking down our enemies. Joe Scarborough qualifies as such. If there is a small chance that this could lead to his downfall, then we should move forward with the FCC complaints.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:50 AM
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56. Probably so they know whether your complaint belongs in the trash
The "F" word has been uttered on other cable networks--including FOX News--with no ramifications whatosever. Your complaints to the FCC shall fall on deaf ears. Nobody there cares.

Basically, cable networks have their advertisers to answer to. Take it up with them, and best of luck.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:55 AM
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61. here you go.
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/complain.html

Indecency and obscenity. Generally, the rules concerning the content of programming on cable channels are not as strict as the rules concerning programming content on non-cable channels. If you object to programming on a cable system, you may contact the FCC to determine what rules may be applicable and what action may be appropriate.


Sorry, dropping the F bomb first thing in the morning is beyond, in fact the F bomb is even bleeped on comedy central during the evening (Jon Stewart). I believe it's only on the a la carte pay networks that they don't govern.

They'll get a nice fine, especially after seeing scar apologize to the parents with kids but tell all of the other adults to just deal with it. Cant imagine the FCC will like that very much.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:11 AM
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71. It's not the first time that word has popped up on cable
Including at least one occasion just a few months ago on FOX News.

No fines were levied. Nothing ever came of it. The FCC just said they didn't do cable.

I wish you success with your campaign. I really do. But you're wasting your time.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:35 AM
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45. Thanks for the link...
I just filed a complaint.
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realitythink Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:38 AM
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49. Done and very easy to do
I encourage everyone to do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:50 AM
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57. Thanks! I'm going to wait to file my complaint until I determine whether I
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 09:13 AM by No Surrender
can include a YouTube link so they can hear it for themselves.

Hopefully MediaMatters will be on it, too.

on edit...I just filed...link to YouTube video for anyone interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx58spRogkE
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:14 AM
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88. D'oh!
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:53 AM
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60. If found to be true, the new laws allow for up to a 200K fine just for saying that on cable!
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:56 AM
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64. got a link on that?
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:40 AM
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78. I don't, I coincidentally heard this being discussed I think it was on the Daily show last week
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:28 AM
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93. You don't have a link to it because its not true.
Indecent speech on cable is not subject to government regulation or fines. The law on that has not changed.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:53 AM
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84. complaining to the FCC is a waste of time. They don't regulate indecency on cable.
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/oip/FAQ.html

Do the FCC's rules apply to cable and satellite programming? In the past, the FCC has enforced the indecency and profanity prohibitions only against conventional broadcast services, not against subscription programming services such as cable and satellite. However, the prohibition against obscene programming applies to subscription programming services at all times.

(And no, saying "fuck" does not meet the test for 'obscenity')
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:18 AM
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90. FCC does not regulate 'indecent' speech on cable, only broadcast
However, an organized campaign complaining to MSNBC may do some good.
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itzdaun Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:26 AM
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31. It keeps getting better and better!
I've rewound it so many times and still can't get enough!
OMG. Mika trying to cover is the funniest part.
My cat is furious with me but I can't stop laughing!


:rofl:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:00 AM
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68. I read about Mika's JA upthread; I do so hope that part is on the YouTubes. nt
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:26 AM
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33. mika of course minimizing it. telling him not to worry. lmao
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:28 AM
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35. republicon propagandist 'family-values' language
hypocrisy, thy name is republicon
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:28 AM
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36. scab "nobody wants to talk, I'm radioactive" lmao n/t
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:29 AM
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39. Apologises to women and children "Adults Get it Over it" lol
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 08:29 AM by nomaco-10
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:42 AM
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52. Cool, women aren't adults. Thx again Joe!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:18 AM
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92. OH, so I'm not an adult because I'm a woman? Fuck you.
Is that adult enough for you?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:29 AM
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38. And...it IS Rahm's job to say "fuck you" to people. nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:40 AM
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50. Sorry, but I think his own Conservative standards should apply: FINE HIM SEVERELY.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:42 AM
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51. He says he's not worried about anybody but his wife. n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:46 AM
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54. Apparently he SAYS a lot of things.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:47 AM
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55. Isn't his wife as psychologically battered as Mika? Because that is the role Mika plays on the
program... he calls him honey or such other word like that, but takes all the crap he sends her way really meekly (or is it mikaly?)
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:51 AM
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58. He's completely lost it. Hilarious! Even Rahm knows not to drop the F bomb on live TV. n/t
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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:56 AM
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62. he reminds me of anchorman
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:58 AM
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66. I turned it on at the end
in the "what did we learn today" segment, and they all were like "rahm isn't the only one who curses like a sailor"...I wondered what this was about...good! Maybe they'll get fined!
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:59 AM
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67. The guys on Bill Press Show just said he disappeared off the set afterward.
I guess he's in the office getting his butt chewed!

:rofl:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:10 AM
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70. Another debate that needs to take place
In world filled with innuendo about it all, it's ironic that only word in slang, that is used most often is the one that gets banned. George Orwell must be proud :-)
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:20 AM
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72. You would be better off writing MSNBC
It's the advertisers you want to get to.

Lots of renditions of the word fuck on cable, but not on cable channels with paid ads.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:22 AM
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73. is it on Youtube yet
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:25 AM
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75. yep.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:25 AM
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76. Here:
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Antennas Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:24 AM
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74. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx58spRogkE

I hope this ends in a suspension and hefty fines.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:15 AM
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89. No longer available.n/t
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:18 AM
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91. it is for me..
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Antennas Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:39 AM
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77. By the way, Joe
Rahm can AND WILL go around saying "fuck you" to people he doesn't want near the president. It's his job.

You on the other hand can't be going around saying "fuck you" on TV.

Enjoy your hefty fine, fuck-o.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:42 AM
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79. filed complaint with FCC and MSNBC. They really need to
send that bastard to fox. I can't stand him or his side twit.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:53 AM
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85. FCC doesn't regulate indecent speech on cable.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:50 AM
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82. what a worthless dungpile
.
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Liberal Mommy Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:59 AM
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86. Sent a complaint to MSNBC
I'm so tired of this crap from Joe & especially Mika! :mad:
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:32 PM
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95. Somewhere Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman are laughing their asses off...
Karma baby!

J
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