Delicious. Really smart freeper dismembers the imorans over the Obama is not a natural born

[cali]

citizen idiocy. Yes, that rarest of things, a smart freeper: Enjoy.

To: DrC
But doesn’t that make it even more puzzling? Why would DNC want to squander good money on a pointless legal fight, especially now that the election is over?
Not at all. They've got millions to spend.

From the DNC standpoint this is a frivolous lawsuit. As far as they're concerned Obama produced proof he was born here, Hawaii has said he was born here, so they believe the matter is closed and any legal challenges are solely to embarrass the candidate and force him to do something no other presidential candidate has had to do. So of course they're going to fight it tooth and nail.

I think the problem relates to being adopted in Indonesia. If that happened and no one notified authorities, then original COLB never would have been altered.

Even if it did happen, the ruling of an Indonesian court in an adoption case would not result in the sealing of a U.S. birth certificate.

Thus, if BHO became Barry Soetoro, was adopted in Indonesia, thereby becoming an Indonesian citizen, if he had LEGALLY, prior to age 21, returned to Hawaii to restore his citizenship, I would think that his BC/COLB would then have to reflect this sequence of events, i.e., born in Hawaii as BHO, subsequently adopted, renamed, lost citizenship, returned, regained citizenship, renamed etc.

Except that Obama didn't have to restore his citizenship. Citizenship is a birthright and cannot be taken away from you. Obama's mother cannot give up his citizenship on his behalf, nobody can. Obama could not accidentally forfeit his citizenship. When Obama reached his maturity, he would have had to take deliberate actions to give up his citizenship not restore it, since it had never been lost in the first place.


144 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:41:06 PM by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
IF.....he traveled on an Indonesian passport....that would be deliberate action.



145 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:44:32 PM by Smokeyblue
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To: ridesthemiles; Calpernia; LucyT; Fred Nerks; MeekOneGOP
Nothing has been presented which has been termed Barack Hussein Obama II's birth certificate.
Certificate of Live Birth is not a birth certificate, which is what Berg petitions the court to demand of the defendant.

Defendant has refused--with good reason: defendant is not a natural born Citizen.

Citizenship which originated in Kenya was modified through adoption by an Indonesian national.

Travelling to Pakistan in 1981 demonstrated ipso facto non-U.S. citizenship.

QED Hussein gets sent back to Chicago with some lovely parting gifts including an autographed picture of President Bush to hang on his fridge.





146 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:44:50 PM by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ridesthemiles
Yes. But if Berg’s case was so weak that it was literally laughed out of the lower court then why should the Supreme Court demand them?”
The Supreme Court hasn't demanded anything. Berg has filed his case with the court. The Supreme Court has given Obama's team until December 1st to deliver their response. I've not doubt that their response will be similar to their response in the lower court. And why not? It worked the first time.

I don’t believe for one minute that Berg was laughed out of the District Court.

Then you should read the judges decision. According to several lawyers I know, the judge came as close to open ridicule of Berg and his case as anything they've ever seen.

I think a Democrap appointed Federal Judge didn’t want to rule on the hot potatie and passed it on. I think he knew Berg would not give up easily.

Of course you would. The idea that Berg is an idiot never crossed your mind. You really ought to look into some of Berg's other cases.


147 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:44:57 PM by Non-Sequitur
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To: ridesthemiles
What dog does she have in this fight?
And has anyone actually heard this alleged tape of this woman claiming to be there? I'd be very interest in seeing or hearing exactly what she had to say. Berg claims to have the tape. Corsi claims to have the evidence. And neither has produced anything.


148 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:47:17 PM by Non-Sequitur
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To: Smokeyblue
IF.....he traveled on an Indonesian passport....that would be deliberate action.
If. If frogs ate mud and if frogs had wings and if frogs had a body temperature of 300 degrees then they could fly and poop bricks at the same time.

The U.S. recognizes dual citizenship. If Obama traveled on an Indonesian passport - and I've seen absolutely nothing supporting the claim - then it would still not qualify as an expatriating acts as defined by the government.


149 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:50:36 PM by Non-Sequitur
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To: Smokeyblue
IF.....he traveled on an Indonesian passport....that would be deliberate action.
Having multiple passports is legal. I have three, for example. Having a passport from another country does not harm your US citizenship status.


150 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:52:11 PM by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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[JuniperLea]

1. "Certificate of Live Birth is not a birth certificate"

Oh, dear. That's what my birth certificate says... and all three of my kids' says the same thing... I better get checking! I know I was in Los Angeles County during the birth of my kids! Perhaps I was swept away by aliens or something, and taken to Kenya! The horrors!

:rofl:

[yellerpup]

2. Really interesting thread.

With logic and good spelling. Where did you say it came from? :rofl:

[cali]

3. I particularly like this line:

If. If frogs ate mud and if frogs had wings and if frogs had a body temperature of 300 degrees then they could fly and poop bricks at the same time.

The U.S. recognizes dual citizenship. If Obama traveled on an Indonesian passport - and I've seen absolutely nothing supporting the claim - then it would still not qualify as an expatriating acts as defined by the government.

[yellerpup]

4. That one left Smokyblue wandering in the haze.

If the logic doesn't befuddle them, then vocabulary surely will. ;)

[cali]

5. I'm amazed that Non-Sequitur hasn't been booted off

of freeperville. I got the axe for much less.

[yellerpup]

7. He/she sounds like an attorney

probably saved by use of the term "Democrap" while referring to the judge.

[Orsino]

6. They're just putting off the search for McCain's birth certificate.

A few more months of this, and they can forget about it completely.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

8. I love the fact that I was born in Honolulu like Obama. I'm just as un-American.

:rofl: