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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:22 PM
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Joe Lieberman will sabotage Obama's Middle East peace efforts
Joe Lieberman holds views similar to the racist Avigdor Lieberman (no relation), who is among those that danced in the streets when Rabin was assassinated.

Joe Lieberman is to the RIGHT of ruling party Kadima, the party founded by Ariel Sharon.

Joe Lieberman has broken every promise he made when he was made chair of Homeland Security Committee, including the one about investigating wrongdoing in the aftermath of Katrina.

It is up to us to let our Democratic senators know how we feel about Lieberman.

Here is text of e-mail I sent to Evan Bayh using his website:

You and the other Democratic Senators are going to caucus next Tuesday. Lieberman will be the major topic. Obama's suggestion on keeping Lieberman in the caucus notwithstanding, it doesn't follow that Lieberman keep his chair of the Homeland Security Committee.

I don't care whether you vote to keep Lieberman in the Democratic Caucus or not. I do care about Lieberman retaining his Chair of the Homeland Security Committee.

Two reasons:

Lieberman Lends His Name To Fear-Mongering Documentary On American Muslims And Terrorism
By Justin Elliott - November 10, 2008, 4:56PM


Joe Lieberman, who is locked in a fight to hold onto his Senate Homeland Security Committee chairmanship, is lending his name to a lurid sequel of the documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West. That film, which was distributed through newspaper inserts and mass mailings to 28 million swing-state households during the campaign, was denounced by religious leaders for painting all Muslims with the same broad brush and for its cartoonish portrayal of Islamic terrorism.

The new documentary, called The Third Jihad: Radical Islam's Vision For America, focuses on the "hidden war against the freedom and values we all take for granted" being waged by radical Islamists trying to take down America from within. Among other things, the film warns of the "subtle dangers of non-violent cultural jihad and its influence in America's universities."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/lieberman.php

And this one:

Remove Lieberman from all Domestic Security and National Security Roles

Steve Clemons


Joe Lieberman wants to keep his status and committees and caucus with the Democrats. He has been a fear-monger and someone who has promoted a dangerous, reckless false choice between American relations with Israel and other parts of the Middle East. He is a devout neoconservative who has been a key enabler of many of the most nefarious groups that promoted the Iraq War and who want a series of new wars in the region.

But more than that, he strongly supported someone a heartbeat away from the presidency who knew virtually nothing about America's place in the world, who knew nothing of American history and its leaders and conventions and founders.

Lieberman is dangerous on so many levels -- and he has not apologized for any of his positions or offered any explanation that should make Americans feel comfortable with this Senator in the next four years as Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security.

If Dems would like to keep Joe Lieberman in the caucus, give him responsibility for education policy, telecom policy, health care -- but the price for the Dems keeping this fearmonger is that he be removed from any position with key responsibility for national security or domestic security matters.

It is useful to refresh the memory of what Joe Lieberman said about Sarah Palin, on stage with her, and what he remained on stage listening to as Sarah Palin talked about "Barack Obama's terrorist friends. . ."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/remove-lieberman-from-all_b_142447.html

I beg of you Senator Bayh, that you join Senator Schumer and strip Lieberman of his chairmanship of Homeland Security. Lieberman is a threat to our civil liberties and a potential threat to the incoming Obama Administration.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:29 PM
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1. No I don't think so...He got one more time to mess up....And if he do mess up
OOOh i rather not say :)
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:34 PM
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2. Didn't you get the memo? "He's not so bad"
"he just backed the wrong horse, that's all". "most Dem Senators like Him". Blah Blah Blah.

I didn't get the memo either! His list of anti-democratic actions and beliefs (small d and big D) is far longer than his recent attacks on our president elect.

Recommended Mr Quixote!
I have given up with reasoning with people here over this but will continue writing letters because it is the best I can do.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:37 PM
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3. Vidkun Quisling and the Vichy regime "backed the wrong horse" too!
We know what happened to the Nazi collaborators at the end of WWII.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:49 PM
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5. They were given tea and goodies
Then told, "do that one more time and we will take away your goodies and maybe even your tea"?
:sarcasm:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:46 PM
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4. the fact that Obama chose the son of an Israeli terrorist as his
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 12:48 PM by jonnyblitz
chief of staff doesn't help matters in that department either. Rahm Emmanuel's dad was a member of Irgun and Britain declared it a terrorist organization at the time when it as active in the 40's. The internets are all a-buzz over this.

<snip>
In the Israel newspaper Ma'ariv, Emanuel's father, Dr. Benjamin Emanuel said, "Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel. Why wouldn't he be? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floors of the White House."
<snip>

more..
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/will-the-arab-w.html

my personal opinion about all of this is irrelevant. It is disturbing to the people we need to make peace with. I am just pointing this out. :shrug:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:52 PM
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7. When did Obama hire Rahms Dad?
Didnt think so. Thats some nice repub terrorist-by-association logic you've got going on there. :eyes:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:19 PM
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11. Nelson Mandela and Jomo Kenyatta were also declared "terrorists" by colonial powers
They also became fathers of modern South Africa and Kenya respectively.
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:52 PM
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6. What plans?
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 12:52 PM by Kurska
Has obama even established a policy in regard to middle east peace besides refusing to talk to hamas until it recognizes israel? Why don't we let obama draft a policy before we start lining up public enemies?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:56 PM
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8. I think this ought to go to EVERY SENATOR in the Democratic caucas.
If you don't have their contact page, you can find it here:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:01 PM
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9. And he can do this...how exactly?
You are giving an awful lot of power to one Senator.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:01 PM
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10. Good letter and Post.. Dodd needs one too
Who also want Lieberman to chair Homeland Security.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:09 PM
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12. Lieberman will undermine Obama's peace efforts in the Middle East
Lieberman is a racist, and he is allied with the most extreme rightwing elements in Israel.

We need to support the peacemakers in Israel, not sleep with the business-as-usual cabal that benefited so much from Bush being AWOL for the past 8 years.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:05 PM
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13. Lieberman shouldn't be trusted
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 07:05 PM by uponit7771
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afridemo Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:52 PM
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14. If Joe Lieberman is not removed as chair of the committee, then

what does a member of the party in congress have to do be punished or ostracized?

True,the party is a big tank but Lieberman was disloyal to the party and if he is not dealt with now,might encourage others in future to go against the party when unity will be needed most.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:54 PM
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15. We need to let our Democratic senators know how we feel.
We can't let them fall for the private club mentality that many of them seem to be suffering from.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:27 PM
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16. I think Holy Joe is on a very, very short leash
and if he looks like he is going to step out of line, all of his leadership postions are gone.

patience, patience because he just can't help himself:popcorn:
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