July 9th "I want to cut his nuts off" says Jesse Jackson, 11/4 - tears, and now

[Liberal_in_LA]

making the rounds of the radio shows speaking about the importance of Obama's victory.

It just struck me yesterday when I heard Jesse Jackson speak, he was pissed at Obama just a few short months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLGkFpsdHo

Was Jesse crying on Nov 4th because he realized he said he wanted to "cut his nuts off" about the new leader of the free world?

[endarkenment]

1. He was crying because Martin's dream has borne fruit.

Thanks for a really nasty post.

[Liberal_in_LA]

2. U are welcome.

[Solomon]

27. I agree. Everybody does good and bad. How soon we forget

some of the good that Jessie did.

Fact is, Obama wouldn't be there without standing on the shoulders of many people, including Jessie.

[SurfingAtWork]

31. delete

[Rebubula]

3. After hearing that...

...I lost a good bit of respect for Rev. Jackson.

However, I always tear up when I remember him reading 'Green Eggs and Ham' on SNL the week the Dr. Suess died. His delivery was the greatest tribute to Dr. Suess that I have seen.

[Liberal_in_LA]

4. Maybe i'll check out youtube to see it. Thanks.

[Catshrink]

11. Jackson reading "Green Eggs and Ham"

:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPy2alWEZ-U&feature=related

[blondeatlast]

29. Priceless! I'd never seen that, thank you! nt

[Catshrink]

30. of the Latter Day Seuss

:rofl:

I loved it!

[uppityperson]

5. It is possible to be angry @ something does, but happy he got elected.

Good lord, the extremism thinking here, must be all good/all bad, black/white. There are multiple shades of grey and it is possible to be angry with someone about something and still be happy for them about another.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

9. Yeah it's pretty binary here. This added to the speed at which folks fly off the handle,

it gets pretty annoying in here sometimes. I thought we're liberals who are inclusive and give all voices a say...Oh well.

[uppityperson]

10. Thank you for the phrase "binary thinking".

Been trying to figure out a different term than "black/white" since it can be too melanin sort of thingie, focused on color vs binary

[ellacott]

6. People on this board have said worse things about Obama

and they claim they cried when the announcement was made.

I understand what you mean about Jesse. I thought about what you said but since I can't read his mind I let it go. I think that thoughts of history were the predominant thought in his mind.

[JVS]

7. I wonder what Obama has said to him on that issue.

"You still wanna cut my nuts off now, punk?"

[mrreowwr_kittty]

8. Have you never been angry at someone you cared about?

I have. I have thought and even verbalized aloud terrible things about people I hold dearest because they did something that disappointed me.

[TTUBatfan2008]

13. I don't think Obama and Jackson are very close at all...

His son is a lot closer than he is to Barack.

[me b zola]

15. I believe that Obama is grateful to Jackson for all that he has done

for this nation and the cause of justice.

[TTUBatfan2008]

25. Well yeah...

he's said many times that he is grateful for those who came before him, that he stands on their shoulders. Jackson is the one who has showed resentment for Barack, not the other way around.

[Ecumenist]

12. The first thing that came to mind for me, (an AA woman) and my friends

when we saw that was that he was crying because it wasn't him standing before the world accepting him presidential victory. He's NEVER been a favorite of mine or that of anyone I know. He's creepy and slimey as far as we're concerned. That faux pas he made in July was worse because he got caught.

[eleny]

16. When I saw his tears....

I thought "Oh jeez, he's ready for the camera". I felt a little guilty about it but couldn't seem to shake it.

Then I was listening to his program this weekend coming home from the grocery Sunday night when it's repeated. A caller told Jesse that he was miffed with Obama because the caller never heard Obama give props to those who came before. And I thought "What the heck?!" I've heard Obama talk about standing on the shoulders of those who came before him. He's talked about it several times in speeches and interviews.

So I waited for Jesse to clear that up with his caller but he didn't. He just thanked the caller. It was disappointing. He could have clarified it and also made it clear that those of his generation in the civil rights struggle also stood on the shoulders of those who came before them. He didn't do that either. So, my opinion of Jackson remains grateful for what he's accomplished. But I don't hold him in the same place as many others.

Btw, I'm a 62 year old white woman who remembers as far back as the 1950s.

[Ino]

19. I had the same thought.

I get a visceral "phony" alert when I see anyone let tears just fall without wiping their eyes. It's a camera pose.

Think of that photo of GWB with a single tear falling down his cheek while he looks sideways at the camera to make sure it's been seen.

Think of convicted murderer Scott Petersen crying copiously during an interview over his slain wife. He never once wiped his eyes.

Not to say that Jackson didn't have any emotional reaction to Obama's victory, but the crying was very camera-conscious.

[eleny]

21. That's exactly what I thought

It saddened me because it was a great moment for everyone.

But we've been given glimpses of how Jackson feels about Obama. It's not all kumbaya between them. So, as observers of history we see the various public persona, listen to our gut reactions and come to our own personal conclusions.

[Ecumenist]

23. This doesn't surprised me at all, Eleny.

I'm 44 and I ws a child in the 60's but I have NEVER liked Jesse Jackson because of his arrogance and hubris.

[Overseas]

14. Cut the crap!! Jesse was crying tears of joy on election day!

And yes, by golly, it is actually possible to be mad at a statement a candidate makes

and still, wowee zowee, be glad that they are elected president.


Golly gee, you know, I've even been known to dislike some of the statements of candidates I've voted for in the past.

Shocker, eh?

[Window]

26. When I saw those tears streaming down Jesse's face, I immediately

thought he was happy and thinking of MLK, Medgar Evans and the others who made this possible.

[Overseas]

39. Exactly. It was a beautiful genuine moment

but some people can't stand that.

Or perhaps their hobby is to sow some discord.

[happychatter]

17. from Cosby to Jackson - the circular firing squad continues

I really wish they'd go over to the GOP side and try to drive some goddamn wedges over there

Jeezus they're flying apart... it would seem like a good time for unity on OUR side... to strike while the iron is hot.

Just like in the Primary, I have to question some people's motives.

edited to add:

Acorn, Rev.Wright, AA Churches generally, blah blah blah

I remember ALL the people, supposedly Democrats in here, amen-ing calls to end Affirmative Action, despite the obvious fact, that White women have been major beneficiaries of Title 9, etc.

I remember the names of most of those in my ignore bin from the Primaries... and watched their wild swings in opinion over time, (since the nomination). There is only ONE consistent theme. These people are career shit starters and mean the Democratic Party NO GOOD.

fuggem

[H2O Man]

18. not

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. You act like this is a big thing.

:shrug:

[countingbluecars]

22. Although not a perfect man,

Jesse Jackson has done much for the civil rights movement and for the anti-war movement. I think this thread is awful.

[EffieBlack]

34. THANK you!

Practically everyone in the United States was crying their eyes out last night but when Jesse Jackson - a man who has done more for the cause of civil rights and social justice than practically anyone else alive and who laid the groundwork for Obama's run - has the the same reaction the rest of us did, some supposedly liberal Democrats trash him. What hypocrisy. How disgusting.

I can only imagine what these people would have said if Rev. Jackson HADN'T cried.

[AtomicKitten]

24. I think he finally realized Obama's dream isn't very different from his own.

I don't think Jackson understood the generational divide, but Obama's resounding victory made him realize it's all good.

[genna]

28. How long have you been following the drips and drabbles of black preachers and black politicians?

Obama skipped ahead in line without asking anyone for anything. It doesn't necessarily bother me because I think the problem with moving black politics forward was looking back instead of looking forward (similar to the Republican party's current dilemma).


I laughed out loud when Fox released that clip Jesse had about Obama. I LMAO when Jesse III talked junk back to his father and ended it by saying KEEP HOPE ALIVE.


I thought Jesse cried because he was witnessing a moment none of us thought would come in our life time.

For those of you who can't stand Jesse, I laugh when I read the same kind of racially tinged language: arrogant, uppity, and too big for his britches. Whose parameters did he surpass in Jesse's pursuit of power?


I look forward to Gwen Ifill's look on the Joshua generation of leaders who have tried to avoid the Moses generation's pitfalls.

[SurfingAtWork]

32. "Please flame me" is less words and would have conveyed the same message.

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[EffieBlack]

35. 1/07 - 5/08 Hillary and Bill Clinton did everything they could to keep Obama from

becoming president, including spending millions of dollars and criticizing him at every turn, much more harshly and more often than Rev. Jackson ever did.

Will you attack them as hypocrites if they show any emotion about Obama's victory?

[budkin]

36. Jesse Jackson won the primary in South Carolina

Bill Clinton said so.

[Catherine Vincent]

37. That's one of two quotes that JJ will never live down.

The "Hymie" town comment and the "cut his nuts off" comment.

Very unbecoming of him.

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[ZeitGuy]

40. Good lord, are you serious? Maybe he was remembering April 4, 1968.

...and seeing Dr. King cut down right before his very eyes.

Maybe he was shedding tears of bittersweet memories of fallen soldiers of the Civil Rights movement, and of his first real hope for a better future that transcends color.

Was there really a point to your OP, other than to put on a display of unnecessary pettiness?

[Roxy66]

41. That was my thought that night.