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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:22 PM
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GOP Bullshit ALERT: The Country is CENTER RIGHT
You're starting to hear the meme from the GOP. They are on message again touting the country as "Center Right". The portion of the country that voted for Obama is center right. If Obama loses the part of the country that is Center Right then he's vacated his presidency. Of course these people aren't going to give up on power, short term or long term.

Latinos are the first target group because they voted for Obama in 2008 by more 20 points over Bush in 2004... a whopping 67%-44%! Watch out they are about to say anything to you to get you on board. They are about to bullshit Latinos to their side of the table.

Young people (they believe) can be influenced. If they can't then they've lost this generation as well as the next. They want to start now, before Obama rests the White House from Bush and the GOP for good.

The GOP are slow to learn here though. They will do what they know. Create perception that this is a center right country.

This country is not center right. THIS COUNTRY IS CENTER LEFT. It is center left so that Dems can govern because the GOP don't know how to govern. They were good at creating distractions before Obama won. This doesn't mean the GOP won't continue their error prone ways. They will however think of more sophisticated ways to dupe the American people. Right now it appears this country has tired of endless wars, fat Republican cats who spend willy nilly on themselves while they leave the middle class to downsize their self worth to poverty status. They are already starting to tell Obama how his candidacy will screw up the country if he pulls the country too far to the left. He shouldn't listen. He should continue with his bold ideas and let us push back against dirty GOP tactics.

After they fucked up this country they have room to talk? The GOP have the nerve to decide what this country "is" after the DEMS just hogtied the elephant, routing them in all three branches of government. This means they are coming. They are bruised and battered. The face of the GOP are a collection of the "B" Girl. They will say anything, do anything to get their power back because they believe in the "fight" at the expense of what America should stand for.

to EVERYONE... when they feed us this meme that America is CENTER RIGHT, push back! Push back against this manipulation no matter what form it appears. Whenever you hear more than two GOP pundits, pols say or write "center right", correct them, correct the news organizations their trying to co-opt because they want to use the same themes (however warn) they've been used to using since... like forever... they want to get the news organizations ginned up on this sort of stuff. They want the media to help them influence the electorate.

Don't let them.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:23 PM
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1. Ask them if that means they're finally ready to acknowledge that MOST AMERICANS ARE PRO CHOICE.
Wait for the silence.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:24 PM
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2. The GOP is stilll all about the "say it until it is true" deal
I've had Pubbies give me this line, and my reply recently is: Gee, the American voters just SCREAMED differently!
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:26 PM
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5. Scream it til people are convinced it's true... yeah... I hear ad-naseum
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:25 PM
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3. The "left coast" just voted to ban gay marriage. It took a near depression to elect a Democrat.
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 03:27 PM by onehandle
I don't think that the country is center right, but those who vote most often might be.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:26 PM
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4. Then why did the majority of Americans vote for...
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:27 PM
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7. Exactly... that's what I tell them. He won by a landslide!!!!!!!
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:38 PM
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10. I told my Republican preacher brother...
...that if Republicans try to go more conservative next election "they don't stand a chance". He doesn't seem to believe that.

BTW, he loves Palin! = he's a Moran
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:54 PM
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13. If they go "real conservative," they might stand a chance. But no one will believe them anymore.
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 03:56 PM by Atman
By "real" I mean actually extolling and acting upon conservative principles. They're supposed to be smaller government, lower taxes, stay out of people's personal business. But BushCo and the 2000-2008 GOP proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that that is all just a ruse to dupe the uneducated.

Supposedly Bush went ever further, he was a "compassionate conservative." But it turned out that he was, in fact, one of the most mean-spirited, evil, lying mofos ever elected to office. And the jack-boots of the GOP just blissfully marched in lock-step with him.

So, the GOP can try to call themselves anything they want. But they've cried wolf too many times. No one is going to come running for a very long time.

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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:14 PM
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16. you mean going back to the dark ages? lol
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:52 PM
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12. Not only that, but they chose the "most liberal" guy over the so-called "moderate."
Center left? My ass.

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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:26 PM
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6. I thought we were all socialists now. nt
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:33 PM
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9. I know...I'm so confused
I was just getting used to being labeled a commie marxist socialist, now all of a sudden I'm center right. I guess I should turn on Fox Noise more often to get my bearings and talking points. Sheesh
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:31 PM
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8. Great Alternet article Debunking that RW Talking Point
http://www.alternet.org/story/106276/

SNIP

Implied was that it also didn't matter what exit polls, mountains of public opinion data, shifts in partisan identification and changes in the country's demographics say. That stuff's apparently for the "reality-based" community to worry about.

Reality: an Election Day poll by the Center for American Progress and the Campaign for America's Future asked whether Republicans had lost because they were too conservative or not conservative enough. By a twenty point margin, voters chose “too conservative”, including independents who agreed by a 21 point margin. Seven out of ten said they wanted the Republicans to work with Obama and “help him achieve his plans,” while fewer than a quarter of respondents thought the GOP should try to keep him from implementing a progressive agenda.

SNIP

Of course, it is true that our friends in Western Europe, Canada and other liberal democracies scoff at our puritan tendencies on sexual matters. If America’s reaction to Janet Jackson's infamous flash of boob or the widespread perception that the entertainment media are unbearably smutty were legitimate proxies for ideology, then it might be fair to say that we lean rightward. The only issue over which progressives got creamed this year was gay marriage.

It's also true that because of our history, and some unfortunately vague text in our Constitution, there are a good number of Americans whose guns can only be pried from their cold, dead hands. And, finally, we're a heterogeneous, tribal country, and that leads to some resistance to various government programs not seen in wealthy democracies in which most of the population shares a similar ethnic background.

But on health care, trade, international diplomacy, corporate regulation, workers' rights, retirement security, environmental protection and most other matters of substance, the country is pretty clearly in the progressive camp.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:43 PM
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11. These so called center right are ...
the same people who are pedophiles,use drugs,pornograhy,etc...a bunch of damn hypocrites.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:57 PM
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14. They didn't vote for him because he is a black DINO.
They voted for him because he was against the
Iraq war and because people believed that he
would stand up to the corporate leeches draining
the blood of our nation.

I use the past tense, as he appears happy
enough to play with the leeches.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:12 PM
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15. imagine them trying to use socialist with this generation
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