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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:48 PM
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Will the Republican Party going to become the Southern Party?
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 05:49 PM by Drunken Irishman
Chris Matthews was talking about this. The only region where McCain gained on Bush was in the south, Appalachia, the racist backbone of America.

Could this be the Republican Party's future? I mean, they're losing support in major swing states, especially out west, yet seem to have a dominant hold on the south.

Will 2012 be Palin and the South against Obama and The Rest of the Country?


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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:50 PM
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1. Yes. Palin is well liked in the South from what I can tell.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see her run in 2012.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:51 PM
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2. We could only hope
I don't think she would win more than a handful of states. I think may southern states that voted for McCain would be in play including Georgia and Texas.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:52 PM
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3. It's going south alright.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:55 PM
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4. From one map shown on here
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 05:59 PM by bushwentawol
which outlined areas where people voted more repug than before it appeared that Arkansas was the epicenter of this activity.



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/flash/politics/20081104_ELECTION_RECAP/electionChange2.swf



edit: Tennessee & Oklahoma as well.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:55 PM
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5. When the stomach is empty you dont care about God, guns, or gays
..unless you're a Southern Baptist seeking to push your worldview on the rest of the country.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:55 PM
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6. It has been by and large since 2000.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:56 PM
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7. I don't see how she makes it through a Primary
She's going to have fight it out with any number of articulate and experienced pols. I doubt she'll make it.

Even the Republicans will figure out by 2012 that they'll do better with a candidate like Tom Ridge and his pro choice position than a whacked out fundamentalist who's waiting to be bottle rocketed out of her shoes.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:57 PM
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8. I don't think it's the future. It's pretty much their present. And in case you
hadn't noticed, Obama planted the Dem flag pretty deeply in their Southern stronghold too with wins in two of the South's biggest states and turning a third one into a battleground.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:57 PM
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9. There are three states in the inter-mountain west
that are solidly red. Wyoming, Idaho, Utah.

All the rest are trending blue.

There is a solid strip of red from South Dakota down to Texas.

And all the rest is the deep south and Appalachia, not including Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina. Eventually even Georgia and South Carolina might tinge blue.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:03 PM
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11. Even Utah, Wyoming and Idaho were bluer this election than in 2004.
Utah and Idaho are two of the fastest growing states in the country and Utah has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the west. I believe in eight years, Utah will be red, but far less red than it is today and even today it's trending Democratic.

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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:00 PM
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10. The reddest state ended up being Oklahoma
and there are still alot of AAs in the south who refused to vote, not considering it worth their time. Which is why a state with a 39% AA population like Mississippi could fail like it did. But one day, those folks are going to wake up... especially now that Obama is actually there in the highest office of the land (or at least he will be officially on inauguration day), and that might FINALLY break through the barrier they have erected. I don't know how long it will take for my AA brethren standing at that water, to get them to drink, but eventually I think they will, and that would put the nail in the coffin of the "southern strategy".
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:08 PM
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12. Ron Christie threw McCain under a bus today on Hardball. It's Palin all
the way.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:09 PM
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13. OK, I'm willing to take one for the Democratic Party.
I live in Alabama, and that ain't gonna change.
The reasons are mainly economic, and that's kinda complicated to go into here.
But I'm perfectly willing to suck ALL the repugs down here and let the rest of the country elect Dems to the presidency and congress.

We might as well just go from being the biggest cesspool to being the ONLY cesspool.

It won't hurt any more than it already does and it would actually make us feel good about our self sacrificing altruism.
:-)
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:11 PM
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14. Please, no. Florida needs to remain blue!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:17 PM
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15. I'm mostly talking about the Old South.
Not really included in that is Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina & Florida.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:20 PM
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16. Hey, they're all 'older' than we are. We didn't get here until 1819.
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:58 PM
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18. What on earth is the Old South?
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 05:58 PM by Two Sheds
Virginia, Georgia, North Carolina AND South Carolina were colonies.

SC, GA, FL, MS, AL, LA, and Texas were the first seven Confederate States. VA, NC, Arkansas, and Tennessee joined them later.

There is overlap anywhere you look. Might need to work on your definitions.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:47 PM
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17. Palin Power 2012?!?!?! Please join me in voting for her in 2012 primaries!!
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