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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:24 AM
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I hate Bush as much as ever
and just because he's getting ready to leave, it doesn't mean he isn't the same rotten fucker who is responsible for so many people getting killed, maimed, or fucked up forever....all because he's a spineless, gutless coward who lied us into a war for oil and did his best to run this country like a fascist.

He never admitted he did anything wrong, nor will he ever do so. Not only is he as insensitive to human life as it gets, but he has raped our precious environment for 8 long years.

There is nothing that will ever make me forget who evil this man is, not the election, not the transition, not that dummy Sarah Palin, not Joe the Plummer, not anything. Even by Republican standards, Bush is way out there by himself when it comes to being mean, low, despicable, hideous, and heinous. George W Bush belongs no where else but in prison for the rest of his pathetic life.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:26 AM
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1. I can see the wreckage from my house
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:23 AM
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2. So
How will you live the rest of your life? Knowing that George Bush still walks the earth? Is he really worth all the hatred and anger? We just won an election.....by a huge margin. The american people have spoken. Take "yes" for an answer and move on...alot of work {more important than obsessing on one man} to be done! He will not be impeached,he will not be brought up on trial. If that were going to happen it would have happened already. Your anger at him only damages you, no one else!.......
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 02:25 PM
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4. That is one of the most idiotic things I've ever had anyone tell me
How will you live the rest of your life? Knowing that George Bush still walks the earth? Is he really worth all the hatred and anger? We just won an election.....by a huge margin. The american people have spoken. Take "yes" for an answer and move on...alot of work {more important than obsessing on one man} to be done! He will not be impeached,he will not be brought up on trial. If that were going to happen it would have happened already. Your anger at him only damages you, no one else!.......


Thank goodness there are so many people in this world who would never give up as easily as you have.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:36 PM
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9. You
Really think that President Obama is going to take some kind of action against Bush? You realize that even Dennis Kucinich has given up on that idea? But if slamming your head into a brick wall makes you happy...Have at it! It's wasted energy IMO! Namaste!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:42 PM
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11. Obama doesn't need to do a damn thing
Except NOT pardon Bush.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:50 PM
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13. Really?
So congress is gonna start impeachment proceedings? Congress is gonna bring him up on charges of war crimes? Or will police officers be waiting for him outside the White House on January 20th? Do you really see this happening? Or is this just a hope?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:33 PM
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35. There is no need for impeachment this late in the game
It's not a prerequisite to a visit at the Hague. This is something that can be dealt with in the courts, and you really need to read the Bugliosi stuff to get the grasp.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:17 PM
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19. Then again Kucinich wasn't the president either.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:18 PM
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8. Oh dear
Your concern is duly noted...
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:38 PM
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10. Where did you read any concern?
Do you also think he will be either impeached or brought up on charges?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:46 PM
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12. It's written all over your post
Why bother if you aren't concerned?

You should go find Vincent Bugliosi's book on his crusade to prosecute Bush. At least read the Reader's Digest version on Huffington Post. Bugliosi is a brilliant, hard hitting prosecutor. If he believes there is just cause and hope for imprisoning the rat bastard, I'm all for it.

This country's wounds cannot heal until it's scrubbed clean of the dead and infected tissue that is BushCo! Allowing him to run free only invites others to try the same.

What is your problem with justice anyway? And don't give me the bullshit about Obama not having time and having more important things to do. He doesn't need to be involved at all... and even if he did, he can walk and chew gum at the same time.


Like I said, your concern is duly noted.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:08 PM
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15. Vincent Bugliosi?
What power does he have to do anything? I have no problem with justice,I just think this is a pipe dream. The rich and powerful get away with crimes all the time. Look no further than OJ Simpson! And he didn't have a fraction of the power and wealth that Bush has! If I'm wrong I will grovel at your feet and beg forgiveness but I don't see this happening! The best thing that ever happened to Bush is the economy going down the toilet in a big way,takes the attention away from the war! IMO
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:36 PM
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36. He has no power and I never intimated that he did
You need to read up on it. He lays it all out on Huffington Post and in his book.

You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. Just because mine is aligned with one of the most intelligent and successful prosecuting attorneys in our country shouldn't make a difference.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:15 PM
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39. Actually
I did read Bugliosis piece over there. He said that while George Bush should and could be tried for mass murder it was highly unlikely to happen! Which was kind of my original point along with wasted energy!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:57 PM
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41. I'm not sure we read the same piece...
Because he is convinced this is doable and necessary. See this youtube and you'll find he mentions you at apprx. 8 - 9.5mins... and there are other vids as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xP79ReW8bk
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:28 AM
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3. This is what gets me *'s working to poison air and water and the right say Obama is a threat when>
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 10:38 AM by cooolandrew
he would work to clean that up. I will never understand their logic in a million years being stupid doesn't even explain it to me.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 02:45 PM
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5. pop in a Brewer and shipley CD, it'll make ya feel better...
:hi:
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:27 PM
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6. The outrage will never die. Only impeachment can give it a voice.
Bush and Cheney broke our common contract. Our constitution is in breach. Only impeachment can restore the terms.
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:15 PM
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7. Unforgivable
I despise him as much now as ever. I will never have an ounce of sympathy or empathy for that dirtball war criminal.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:02 PM
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14. After seeing the Atwater documentary last night, I hate Bush and his family even more.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 09:37 PM by political_Dem
Although watching the entire program of "Boogie Man" really repulsed me (especially when seeing these Republicans praise Atwater for the damage he did to this country), the Bush part of the show was very infuriating. Atwater's harm was truly felt during the Bush 41 and 43 administrations.

It's hard to have any empathy or pity for a group of people (the Bush crime family) who don't display any regard for their country. In short, they are traitors to everything that America stands for.

If the VT lady who ran for Attorney General was voted into office, I hope she goes after Bush.

If Bugliosi has a case to bring the Bush Crime family down, he ought to run with it.

To start over, we need justice to work.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:10 PM
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16. I agree. There's no blanket pardon for this man
Let the evidence come to light. Prosecute your way up to Bush. It may take a few years -- look how long it took the Enron crooks to rat each other out, all the way up to CEO.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:12 PM
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17. One more thing
Look how methodical Obama was in his campaign.

Let's see if he can apply the same steady accumulation of pressure in prosecution.

Plus, there may be dozens of people waiting until Jan 24 to call the Atty General with their evidence.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:22 PM
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20. Or they're calling Seymour Hersh...whistleblowers are waiting...
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:41 PM
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21. I hope so. The light must be shone on these people for what they are.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 10:00 PM by political_Dem
I am tired of people committing criminal behavior without any sort of prosecution. It is almost as if these behaviors are teaching us as citizens that it is okay to do something wrong without any repercussions. I mean it is terrible to watch day after day people in the highest positions in the land do bad things because they can and have the arrogance to laugh it off without a hint of conscience.

I hope that justice never takes a back seat again in the Obama Administration.

Thanks Alpharetta and Babylonsister for your news about this situation.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:50 PM
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26. You will be astounded when and if the truth spills out. That's why
so many people on DU are determined in their quest for truth. I'm glad you 'get' it!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:13 PM
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18. Yes, I've been stewing over that Atwater Frontline story all day too.
And Junior was all over the place supporting his Dad- participating in the dirty politics enabled by Atwater, and then Rove.

I will never forget the evil.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:50 PM
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22. I'm so glad to know I wasn't the only one who felt this way.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 09:51 PM by political_Dem
Watching the Frontline documentary was unnerving and terribly angering last night. I don't know how I got through it. I was that upset at the nonchalance displayed for the gravity of Atwater's endeavors. It sickened me that the Republicans use those very same tactics, thinking that the citizens of America are that stupid--especially when we get lied to in our faces.

The documentary did a service to everyone--especially when it unwittingly exposed what the Republicans did in order to get into power: wedge issues, voter disenfranchisement and lying outright to the American public. The Bush crime family took these methods and went to the top without any remorse or shame. And we're expected to feel sorry for * right now? Hell no.

I certainly felt sorry for Mr. Dukakis and his wife, though. It's a shame that such a great guy was damaged by a psychopath hellbent on solely gaining power for the sake of evil.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 07:22 AM
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34. Yes, Kitty and Mr. Dukakis were a class act on the show.
I enjoyed this discussion with you- I needed to vent about Atwater.
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:50 PM
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23. Me too. I hate how easy it's all been for him and how he seems to be seeking sympathy
and is probably getting it from some. I especially hate him for stealing the election in 2000. I knew he was going to be bad, and he completely exceeded expectations.

So many people are dead because of his horrible decisions. It's completely unforgivable.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:52 PM
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24. I spent nearly eight years hating that man with a passion
that, at times, made me physically ill.

I no longer have the energy to hate him. I still think he's the biggest scumbag waste of humanity there ever was, but my attitude now is more like, thank God, in a few months he'll be a part of the past. With any luck, we'll never have to see his smarmy face or hear his idiotic voice again.

My hatred made me sick and it affected those around me as well. For that alone I should hate him more...or maybe it's my own doing, because I could just as easily have turned a blind eye and deaf ear to his senseless blathering. Except that he caused a LOT of destruction.

I don't forgive him...ever...but he's not even worthy of my hatred any longer.

He is a non-entity now, in my mind. If/when I ever see a grouping of pictures/photos of past and present US presidents, in his spot(s) I will see nothing but blank space. Because as far as I'm concerned, he is a nothing.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that hatred hurts the one who hates more than it hurts the one who is hated. And many of us can't afford to do that to ourselves any longer...

:(
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:15 PM
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27. Exactly. I had to give up the hatred, too.
If Bush ends up paying for his crimes, I would be ecstatic, but I'm pretty sure that deep down, we ALL know it's extremely unlikely. And what can I do? Nothing.

On the other hand, I can make some changes in my life of the positive kind. Despite my ailing health (probably abetted by my hatred of Bush), I want to volunteer, help people somehow. That's the only way I can really make a difference.

Let's face it. The little people can't bring Bush to justice. It just can't be done.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 07:03 AM
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32. That was exactly
What I was trying to get at pipi! I think people tend to get too invested in hatred and anger and it only damages them! Life isn't fair most of the time!
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:13 PM
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25. Once a fucker, always a fucker.
There's not anything you can do now except believe in Karma.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:18 PM
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28. Hopefully Obama can undo most of what Bush has done
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:07 PM
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38. revoke everything.
Bush needs to be imprisoned.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:28 PM
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29. more.
the country is melting down in his wake, due to his crimes and hubris.


and he acts like he's on some sort of farewell tour.

he's still "president" for 70 more days or whatever.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:34 PM
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30. I ran out of hate sometime in 2007. Sorry.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 11:36 PM by Occam Bandage
Now he's just some shell of nothing who occasionally shows up on the television. Every once in a while I'll see a clip of him back when I hated him--say, under the Mission Accomplished banner, or during the 2004 campaign. I feel a flash of bemusement that such a nonentity was given so much power and attention, but that's it.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:40 PM
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31. You aren't going to get your wish.
The hate will only hurt you not Bush.

David
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:19 PM
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37. Stalemate...
But to impeach him would have meant President Cheney. Unthinkable.

There are too many things that cannot be undone. And what can be undone, will be undone. Prison, to me, is unnecessary, and inappropriate. He is still the President of the United States. He will forever be known as one of the worst presidents of the United States in US history.

I cannot imagine Bush in prison on any practical level. He is entitled to Secret Service protection for the entire rest of his life. So was Nixon. How would this be accomplished?

And what message would this send to future presidents? If a segment of the American public hates you enough, we'll set you up for death by sending you to prison without guards? What message would it send to the world? I'm not sure it would be a good one.

For me, it will be enough that on January 20th, he will no longer be president, he will be leaving the presidency in total disgrace, it's possible that his wife will leave him, and it is unlikely that anyone will ever give him a major role in anything ever again.

Over time, I have learned to respect the Republican/military viewpoint, that no matter how you feel about the person who holds the title, the Office of the POTUS must always be respected. And the correct way to address a person who is not seen as fit to hold the title... is impeachment.

Now, I admit that if he was impeached on January 19th, I could go along with that.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:27 PM
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40. i hate him more than ever....he & cheney are gonna walk....scotch free...
after robbing lives and our treasury
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:22 AM
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42. For exactly why you feel that way
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