Bayh Expects Lieberman To Apologize For Attacks On Obama In Order To Keep Committee Chairmanship

[ProSense]

Bayh Expects Lieberman To Apologize For Attacks On Obama In Order To Keep Committee Chairmanship

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BAYH: (Y)ou got to, you know, expect an apology — a sincere apology — and you got to keep tell him, “Look, we’re going to give you a chance here. But if you don`t do the right thing as chairman, if, you know, we see any continuation with this kind of behavior,” well then at that point, you know, the game is up at that point.

MADDOW: And — but the game would be up in the sense that he would get stripped of his leadership positions?

BAYH: The chairmanship. Yes.

Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/13/bayh-lieberman-apologize/">Bayh expects Lieberman to apologize for campaign rhetoric

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Lieberman should not be allowed to remain chair of Homeland Security.

[WinkyDink]

1. Not. Going. To. Happen.

[LaydeeBug]

2. an *APOLOGY*? If he keeps his chairmanship, my faith in Change might begin to dwindle

and Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet.

I am being very honest.

[DevonRex]

7. This has NOTHING to do with Obama. This is being worked out

in the Senate.

[librechik]

3. and it's got to be a "sincere" apology--not possible with Snakerman.

Rachel was awesome!

[KittyWampus]

4. Words mean nothing to Lieberman. An apology would be an empty gesture. Hope Senators vote him off

as Chair.

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. He won't go on the national TV circuit and apologize

He will apologize in private but will continue to snip and belittle democrats.


He is best buddies with Sean Hannity

HANNITY: Look, like everything else, Senator... I mean, I actually have a whole series of quotes here in front of me... you know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the day after the hurricane hit, he blamed Bush and the CO2 gases and the not supporting the Kyoto accord. You have Paul Begala said, well the money was spent to fund Iraq. Ted Kennedy said, Bush is the one who poisoned the air and water. Here's what bothers me about this whole thing, the government made terrible mistakes.

LIEBERMAN: Correct.

HANNITY: But for 35 years, New Orleans knew this was coming. They had a thousand schoolbuses sitting five feet away from them, and the governor and the mayor didn't have enough sense to go put a key in it and get a thousand drivers and help these people out that needed help.

LIEBERMAN: Yeah, there can't be... you know, listen, some people are trying to scapegoat Michael Brown, some people are trying to scapegoat President Bush.


HANNITY: And it goes on, it starts listing some of the Democrats that have become the most outspoken. And we saw, for example, during the Alito hearings we saw Ted Kennedy and Biden and Chuck Schumer. Hillary Clinton is a loud voice for the Democratic party these days, as is John Kerry. We saw, for example, the way the president was treated down at Corretta Scott King's funeral, by Jimmy Carter. Do you fear that the Democratic party has really been co-opted by a pretty hard-left element?

LIEBERMAN: Well this is the great challenge to us. I mean, if Democrats ever want to get back in power, they're gonna have to move back toward the center, and are gonna have to reassure the American people on the baseline question, which is what government, particularly the federal government, is about before anything else, which is security, that Democrats will use the power of our government to protect people's security in a dangerous age.


HANNITY: I'm good. Now listen, before we get into all the stuff that we need to talk about, there's a lot of news here. I need to know, yes or no, do you want my public support, do you want my endorsement, do you think that hurts your re-election efforts, do you want me to come out in opposition of you, I want to do what's in your best interests, you gotta tell me what you want me to do.

LIEBERMAN: Yeah. Well, you know, it's good of you to ask me in private like this. (Laughter)

HANNITY: (Laughter) I'm thinking... I'm thinking Hannity Conservatives for Lieberman and I'll do a big fundraiser in Connecticut.

LIEBERMAN: Yeah, yeah. Let me just say, I appreciate your friendship, and I appreciate your support. Really.

[WI_DEM]

6. They need to make him appear before the cameras and apologize if they are going to go that route.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

8. just like in court, attorneys shout remarks they know will get overruled...

but they do it because they know it leaves an impression that the jury can't fully deactivate.

I'd rather see public response by those wronged, correcting the impression--at a ratio of 10:1!!

That, paired with action--conniving liars receive consequences!!!!!!!

Actually, I'll take action alone; that'll do!

[riverwalker]

9. I hope everyone has written/called Harry Reid n/t

[LiberalFighter]

10. Bayh is WORTHLESS. You all see why I criticized Bayh whenever I could?

[wyldwolf]

11. based on your reasoning, Obama is even MORE worthless, huh? Let's be fair

Obama hasn't asked for anything approaching an apology.

[ProSense]

12. BS. What does this have to do with Obama?

He, like every other Democrat, has stated that he wants to keep Lieberman in the Democratic caucus. He has made no statement about Lieberman's chairmanship.

[wyldwolf]

13. ummm Obama wants to keep him around?

:shrug:

Has Obama said anything about Lieberman's leadership positions. No.

Faulty logic as usual. Attack Bayh for essentially the same position Obama has.

[ProSense]

15. Not faulty. Every Democrat wants to keep Lieberman in the caucus

Bayh is suggesting that an apology would suffice in allowing him to keep his chairmanship. You then claim that Obama has the same position.

Obama does not. He hasn't said anything about Lieberman keeping his chairmanship.

The faulty logic belongs to you.

[wyldwolf]

17. LOL! Pre-Obama and it was Off With Lieberman's head

[ProSense]

18. What the hell are you talking about? Democrats in Congress have their opinion

other people have their own. Sorry that reality isn't fitting into your preconceived notions.





edited typo

[wyldwolf]

21. I'm talking about the opinions on DU and other stops on the net

Pre-Obama: Lieberman is a traitor! Let's kick him out!
Obama: Let's keep him around

"ok, good idea! what were we ever thinking! But no leadership positions!"

Until Obama says, "let him keep them." LOL!

[ProSense]

23. That's BS. Lieberman should be kicked out. He is a traitor.

Are you referring to the comments in this thread and others over the past couple of days? I seen them, most people still want his ass kicked out. In fact, most of the comments on other blogs indicate that people want him out.

[wyldwolf]

24. of course it's BS. So what's your issue?

You don't see the irony? The hypocrisy of those who just a week ago were demanding Lieberman be kicked out but, since Obama has essentially invited him to stay, they're now saying that's fine and dandy but he can't keep his chairmanship?

[ProSense]

25. What I see is you changing the subject from your original faulty assertion.

You then made a blanket statement about people changing their opinion because Obama stated his. That's nonsense.

[wyldwolf]

26. the funny thing about replies like your is the original assertion is there for all to see

Liberalfighter attacks Bayh as worthless for taking a position quite similar to Obama's and, by Liberalfighter's reasoning, that makes Obama worthless, too.

It's all there in post #11. This would be the time most people would back away. But you'll keep twisting, I'm sure.

[ProSense]

27. Give it up, you've gone full circle.

You're wrong. Give it up.

[wyldwolf]

28. you just made my point

[ProSense]

29. No, I didn't,

but it's clear you're trying to save face.

Obama and Bayh are not on the same page with regard to an apology. He has said nothing about that to date. Your assertion that they are is false. Period.

[wyldwolf]

30. yeah, and quite nicely, and you're still trying to contort my post to fit...

... how you originally misinterpreted it.

Prediction: If Obama signals Lieberman should keep his leadership positions, Liberalfighter and a host of others will suddenly be in agreement.

[ProSense]

31. Prediction: That will never happen

Obama says he won't get involved in the fight on Capitol Hill over whether Democrats should take away Lieberman's chairmanship of a key committee to punish him for backing his close friend McCain for president.

"We aren't going to referee decisions about who should or should not be a committee chair," Obama spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said in a statement Tuesday. "President-elect Obama looks forward to working with anyone to move the country forward. We'd be happy to have Sen. Lieberman caucus with the Democrats. We don't hold any grudges."

link

Obama's original position was clear when revealed a few days ago, but leave it to people like you to try to twist it to mean something it does not.

From your insistence that you think people will change their minds simply because Obama states his opinion, I'll assume you belong to this group. If not, then what exactly don't you understand about people having differences of opinion?

[wyldwolf]

34. Prediction: Obama will send signals to that in a matter of days

It's being reported that Obama has now expressed his clear support not only for Joe Lieberman staying in the caucus, but for retaining his Chairmanship of the Department of Homeland Security Committee.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/obama-wants-lieberman-to_b_143299.html

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On Keith Olbermann's show last night, Howard Fineman dropped a bit of a bomb, reporting that Senator Dick Durbin is now moving towards keeping Joe Lieberman as chair of the Homeland Security Committee -- because he has now heard what Obama had to say about it. Worse, Fineman claimed that Obama has "signaled" that he, too, wants Lieberman to stay.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/fineman_obama_and_durbin_want.php

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Support for Lieberman appears to have been growing since Obama began making calls to several top Democrats to discuss the Connecticut Senator's status. Since then, several senior Senators began making statements that seemed to indicate a willingness to let Lieberman retain his gavel.

Roll Call Subscription only - no link - As Reported by Ameriblog

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[ProSense]

36. Never going to happen, and both Hamsher and Fineman's

assertion is based on a bogus claim being pushed by Lieberman supporters.

[LiberalFighter]

37. No I won't be and I'm sure many will not either.

No candidate is 100% right.

I had him as a Secretary of State for a couple of years and then Governor for 8 years.

If I have such a low opinion of my Senator (Bayh) why would I change my mind about a sleaze bag Lieberman?

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[wyldwolf]

22. LOL! Reading is fundamental

I'm speaking to the hypocrisy of those who, 1. now believe keeping Lieberman around is a good idea. and 2., attacking Bayh for taking a similar position.

LOL! Hey! Aren't you from the personal attack-wing of DU?

[LiberalFighter]

35. It had nothing to do with Obama. Bayh wanted to be President.

Then he wanted to be VP.

Every time I did my best to shoot him down about his qualifications. And whether his presence on a ticket would help.

[BootinUp]

39. I don't think you are reading the tea leaves too well

on this one.

The Obama camp will not comment on the Chairmanship issue but is nicely saying they want Joe around. Message: We aren't going to help you Joe.

Then you have Sen Bayh out here campaigning for Joe talking about apologies and give me a second chance and shit.

Come'on wyldwolf you can do better.

[TheWraith]

14. Folks, you've got this all wrong. This is actually pretty vicious.

Apologizing would constitute a massive public humiliation for Lieberman if he really wants to keep his chairmanship.

[BootinUp]

41. not enough, we don't trust him with that much power. nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

16. Lieberman in charge of Homeland Security committee

is like Mark Foley in charge of teenage page security committee .

[AtomicKitten]

19. He neglected that position already declining to investigate Katrina and more.

He should lose that leadership position for failing to do his job for partisan reasons (to protect BushCo's arse).

[Bobbie Jo]

32. I want to see him Grovel...

and then tell him to get lost. :nopity:

Yes...I want to watch.

[DU GrovelBot]

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[BootinUp]

38. I certainly hope most Senators are ignoring Bayh. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

40. I also think he should be forced to come to work in a clown suit. nt