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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:26 AM
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I don't buy the right-wing BULLSHIT that is is a "center-right" country
If you want to tell me that the deep south is center right, perhaps there's some truth to that...

But:

New York & New Jersey are certainly not center right..

You'd be hard-pressed to find one center-right county in the ENTIRE New England area...

The west coast (especially California) is absolutely not center-right....

Maybe Republicans should take a look at the election results from last week...

The center right parts are regionalized (ie; the deep south), but to say this is a center-right COUNTRY is BULL :banghead:
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:30 AM
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1. The right knows their talking points are BS, they just hope enough people believe them
so it becomes the conventional wisdom that favors them. They're working the refs, they know what they're doing. Eventually enough Dems of the spineless variety always come around to meet them in the middle.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:31 AM
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2. The reason they can say that is because the media has become R/W /nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:35 AM
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3. It is a center right country if
the center is marxist leninism. They are trying to define the center don't let them.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:35 AM
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4. The GOP isn't a center right party anyway.
They are an extreme lunatic right wing fringe and they should be given equal time with the Libertarians who are no less nutty.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:45 AM
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5. This is a center-self country
It's not right. It's not left. It's "Pay attention to MEEEEE!!!"

People are for universal healthcare now, because they are beginning to see that they will benefit from it. But show them that it will be less of a benefit than they think, and $20 says they'll turn on the idea.

And in the meantime, we invade countries without batting an eye, so long as we are told we'll get stuff (such as cheap gas) without really considering that maybe invading a country is bad in and of itself. The Iraqi occupation went sour in people's minds because they started seeing their families and neighbors die, not because it was the wrong thing to do. Our concern was, and still is, why are we spending so much money on this war and not getting the cheap gas we were promised, instead of why are we in Iraq killing upwards of 1 million people.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:50 AM
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6. good line. lol
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:51 AM
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7. With the exception of the extreme east and west coast
otherwise the midwest, northern west, south, southwest, and general west are pretty centrist
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:55 AM
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8. Center right?
When somebody who was raised as a conservative monarchist feels right at home at DU, the US is not "center-right"

The right wing wants you to believe they are not bat-shit-crazy. So they say the country is "center-right". It sounds more innocuous, more balanced. In the 1960's this crowd was referred to as the "lunatic fringe". It was a small group then but has grown thanks to an increase in ignorance.

The US is firmly conservative, but moving away from "bat-shit-crazy", only because we found out it doesn't work.

That said, it's hard to label because the meaning of the labels change. A lot of people around here talk about things like balanced budgets. That used to be the conservative mantra. Now they are called wild eyed radical lefties.

Repubs would like you to believe the GOP is the party of Lincoln. It's actually the party of George Wallace.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:08 PM
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9. Here's a good article explaining that we're definitely center-left
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/the-center-left-nation_b_143159.html

(and it uses real numbers, not lies like the right likes to use)
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:08 PM
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10. I agree.
I believe more Americans are liberal than they realize. Unfortunately, the right wing has successfully brainwashed people to fear being labeled 'liberal.' And with the dumbing down of our country, many could not tell you what the term liberal means, only that it is bad & undesireable.

I believe that the majority of Americans would agree with the principles & policies advocated in the "A Day in the Life of Joe Conservative" essay. The dumbing down of our country has hurt the liberal cause more than anything.

The article below is excellent - kind of long, but worth the read.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081110_america_the_illiterate/

America the Illiterate
by Chris Hedges

snip...

We live in two Americas. One America, now the minority, functions in a print-based, literate world. It can cope with complexity and has the intellectual tools to separate illusion from truth. The other America, which constitutes the majority, exists in a non-reality-based belief system. This America, dependent on skillfully manipulated images for information, has severed itself from the literate, print-based culture. It cannot differentiate between lies and truth. It is informed by simplistic, childish narratives and clichés. It is thrown into confusion by ambiguity, nuance and self-reflection. This divide, more than race, class or gender, more than rural or urban, believer or nonbeliever, red state or blue state, has split the country into radically distinct, unbridgeable and antagonistic entities.

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