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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:00 PM
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Unbelievable! I can't frigging stand it anymore...
A patient of mine, a progressive, extraordinarily bright lady, just came in, was very happy about the election results and then, when I dissed Palin, she replied, "Ya gotta give her lotsa credit: she's a ballsy lady."

I replied, "I don't have to give her any credit, she's a tawdry mess and ignorant as well."


this lady actually got mad at me...WTF is it these days? Is everyone gone insane? I can't dislike a woman because then I'm a sexist pig? I MAY be a sexist pig, but this ain't the reason!
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:02 PM
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1. One must be careful.
I've found that some women have an instinctive defensive response to criticism of other women from a man.

Part of me understands it, part of me is like wtf, come on.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:04 PM
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2. Dont worry. Women are bashed for not liking certain women too.
Its just that many of us are used to it by now.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:08 PM
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3. she is the biggest ditz
:hi:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:16 PM
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4. "ballsy lady"
Jeez, there's one more good reason not to wear short skirts, Sarah.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:04 PM
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10. I would rather have someone who knows what they are
talking about, "being ballsy", has nothing to do with it.

having some brains would help.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:23 PM
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5. I am getting a little tired of the gender card being played whenever a woman is criticised
This particular woman deserves criticism--it has nothing to do with her gender. You are perfectly within the bounds of propriety to criticise her unless you are using sexist language to do so that demeans all women.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:14 PM
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6. Agreed...
it's the same trick that the RW played on us. Makes me ill.

and I would never ever use sexist language in a discussion...not my style.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:33 PM
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14. as a woman, i criticize her and am told i am jealous..... i guess there is a hit on either gender
if critism is made about this woman regardless of her showing the world her ignorance. seems like she is sittin pretty good

kinda like bush in his day. with us or against us. criticize and unpatriotic....
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:18 PM
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7. As a woman, I'm a little more than tired of being lumped into the same group as
The Vacuous Venison Vomiting Vixen!

She is an idiot first, then a Republican, then a Governor, then a woman! And don't y'all forget it!

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:35 PM
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8. For Palin it's a very thin line between ballsy and dim bulbity (new word). nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:07 PM
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11. "Dim bulbity." I'm gonna use that! LOL!
:thumbsup:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:01 PM
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9. lizzy borden was a ballsy lady too, so?????
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:09 PM
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12. bwah-ha-ha! I'll have to use that one. Except some may not know who she is...
n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:09 PM
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13. You're allowed to broach such subjects and speak in such ways in your professional capacity?
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:48 PM
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16. Guess he doesn't need the business.
Whatever. It's his money.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:59 PM
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18. No one has ever left me for reasons of discussions..
political or otherwise. I am most genteel, you'd be surprised.

And one more thing...I for one, dont' ever tell anyone or instruct anyone in the ways or means of their jobs, businesses, or professions.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:57 PM
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17. Yes, I can do anything I want once the patient broaches it.
I would never wear a button in the office, nor would I deliberately pick a fight as it were, but I answer all questions and engage in all manners of discussion. Being a professional means that i treat each patient according to their needs. If someone needs to talk to me, I talk to them. It's part of the treatment and patient management.

most of my patients are die-hard Dems anyway. It's easy here.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:22 PM
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22. Mm, then curiouser & curiouser: "very happy about the election results & then, when I dissed Palin
she replied then you replied "I don't have to give her any credit, she's a tawdry mess and ignorant as well."

this lady actually got mad at me...WTF is it these days? Is everyone gone insane? I can't dislike a woman because then I'm a sexist pig? I MAY be a sexist pig, but this ain't the reason!"


True, I have no idea your specialty; there's just no professional environ I enter: medical, dental, vision, cable company, grocery store, etc, or other, where such exchanges take place who knew this brave new world would go viral so quickly :shrug: Maybe not so "easy" for patients with contrary views
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:44 PM
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15. Did you patient actually call you a sexist pig because of your response?
Or are you assuming that her anger was based on sexism? Maybe she just genuinely likes Palin, and didn't appreciate having her opinion dissed.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:00 PM
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19. No she did not...
we keep all discussions polite and above-reproach.

for example, if someone comes in and says, "I can't believe that that %@^@$^ was elected." I reply, "Why do you say that?"
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:04 PM
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20. So you automatically assumed that you were being accused of being sexist?
Strange that you would jump to that conclusion right off the bat. I mean, women can get angry when their opinions are devalued, but it doesn't mean that we think the devaluer is sexist. We could just think he's an ass.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:07 PM
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21. Are you still talking politics with your patients?
Keep it up and you may not have too many left.

:eyes:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:31 PM
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23. I have the same kind of thing here
My neighbor and very good friend - a Jewish gay man - liked that she's outspoken and "spunky". He'd never vote for her but couldn't understand my contempt for her.
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