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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:24 PM
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Priest: No Communion for Obama Supporters
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 04:35 PM by Khaotic


First there was the big freak out during the Kerry campaign in '04 about communion and whether the Catholic churches would give Sen. John Kerry communion if he showed up to receive it.

Now it's not just the Catholic politicians who have to worry about receiving communion, it's Catholic parishioners as well.

WTF?!!!

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."
The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exits constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

Full article: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94EB4BO0&show_article=1


I was raised Catholic, am using the Catholic school to give my children a foundation and background in religion (they will decide what their faith is in good time), and am technically a parishioner at our local Catholic parish.

While my personal 'faith' has evolved in the last five years as I use my mind for thought; I still occasionally attend mass.

I gotta wonder if the priests would have the balls to escort me out of mass if I showed up there bearing my Obama shirt??

Would the priest simply stand and stare at me holding the holy communion. Would he freeze in mid-sentence after starting, "The body of ..." only to glare at my Obama shirt and refuse to administer the host to me??????

Would his heart fill with rage and hate?

I have to wonder.

I refuse to ask for "forgiveness" in confession for casting my vote for the individual who seeks to help the middle class and even the playing field so people will get a hand up and corporate america will be held accountable.

I refuse to endorse the Pro-Life agenda which casts government into the church, seeks to control women, and turns a cold shoulder on the unborn by embracing corporal punishment as a way of lowering abortion rates instead of embracing the expectant mother.

I don't seek "15 minutes of fame;" if I did I would plan to officially put my local dioceses on the spot by sending out a press release with my intention of receiving communion while wearing an official Barack Obama for President T-Shirt and basically stating that I voted for Obama, I'm going to receive communion and what's the Catholic Church going to do about it.

However, I simply can't spark up that kind of controvesy for my family and put them into a situation where they're facing ridicule for a stand that I take.

If there are any other DU Catholic Obama supporters out there that have the gonads to do it, go for it. I think it's something that needs to come to a head and every single dioceses in the nation needs to be forced to take a side. If it goes to the top (the Vatican) then so be it. This shit needs to be settled.

I'm tired of the Catholic church acting like a bunch evanglicals when it comes to politics and voting.

On this issue, the Church needs to look in the mirror and ask WWJD?

I mean, would Jesus turn to Caesar on the issue of abortion?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:25 PM
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1. Obama supporters SHOULD wear their Obama shirts to communion.
If this guy wants to refuse them communion, let him do it, in front of the world to see.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:27 PM
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2. His tax-exempt status should be yanked.
I know it won't be, but it should.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:30 PM
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3. why do people listen to anything they have to say?
they're anti-choice but voting for a party that invaded, bombed and occupied a country and SUPPORT TORTURE is A-OK. Fuck them all.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:38 PM
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4. The people
vote for Obama.

He received the majority of the vote.

The point is that the "flock" is acting against the keepers.

It's about time.

Now the heads of the church need to put up or shut up.

If they think they've lost a lot of members in the past, just wait to see what happens if they come out and basically say that Democrats can not be Catholics. This is essentially what they are saying.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:40 PM
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5. I refer you without comment
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:40 PM
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6. How could you have possibly missed the many, many times this has been posted...
...in many, many forums over the last couple of days?

Including this post with over 200 responses:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3600064

You wouldn't even need the search function. Try looking first.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:47 PM
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7. Sorry
I don't go back more than a couple of pages in DU when I look to see if something has been posted or not.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 05:09 PM
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8. how is the soul endangered by using birth control
let him explain this, because I'd like to know. What magic power do you get by not using birth control-they prefer to use the umbrella-term "abortion" for all of it; is it just actual extraction of a fetus, or is it also a danger to your soul(& how?) when using Depro-Vera, how about the Nuvo-Ring? Is that a threat to one's soul too?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 05:16 PM
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9. What a bunch of sanctimonious bullshit!
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 05:20 PM by Juniperx
!

I want church and state divided once and for all.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 05:21 PM
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10. Outrageous! I wish I were
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 05:22 PM by frogmarch
a Catholic so I could make a big stink while renouncing the Catholic Church.

Churches, especially those who become involved in politics, need to pay taxes!
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 05:49 PM
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11. I believe the position they will bring forth is the following:
If you voted for Obama specifically because of a Pro-Choice (I refuse to say pro-abortion because no one thinks it's a great thing), then they would say that was a sin.

If you voted for Obama for other reasons, i.e. ending the wars, improving poverty, helping the sick gain insurance, etc., it is not a sin.

Sure, it is semantics, and it's really a fence sitting position, but it is how it will be played.
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