Fuck.

[LittleClarkie]

Fuck

Fuck

FuckFuckFuck.

(le sigh)

One of these days Kerry's gonna get what he deserves. ONE of these days.

Eh. Maybe attorney general...

[FrenchieCat]

1. I wouldn't worry about that. Things have a way of working themselves out.....

in a long run.

[LittleClarkie]

3. I know. I guess I just wanted it for him more than I realized.

And I know he's needed in the Senate right now, with the way Kennedy is and all.

Dang.

[politicasista]

2. Nah, Obama don't need any boring, no personality, no backbone, S&B in his cabinet

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[ProSense]

4. I think he's getting it: SFRC chair.

I don't get the sense that he'd want AG over that.

[Skwmom]

5. I think it's lousy how this is being played... Obama not satisfied with Kerry or Richardson

asks Clinton.

[wisteria]

49. This is all coming from Clinton media people. n/t

[beachmom]

68. Agreed, Wisteria. Obama thinks very highly of Kerry, and frankly,

he needs allies in the Senate. There is nobody better than Kerry.

[wisteria]

85. He needs loyalty within his inner circle too- more so than in the Senate. n/t

[Thrill]

6. I still think Kerry will get it

[globalvillage]

7. My thoughts, exactly, LC.

Just add a couple more 'fucks'.

[wisteria]

66. Something you can do.

Contact Obama and let him know how you feel. http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[Faygo Kid]

8. He's a distinguished and accomplished U.S. senator.

That ain't exactly chopped liver.

He is going to play a key role in this Administration, wherever he is.

[politicasista]

9. Yep. Looks like the chronic Kerry haters and bashers will win again

They will get their wish to see him marginalized and ignored. That's how it will be as long as Reid is majority leader.

Go figure. :(

[wisteria]

86. Drop a line

to President Obama and let him know how you feel. http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

128. John Kerry will go down in history as a distinguished Senator

an American war hero and a great man. He's married to a beautiful, wealthy and highly intelligent woman and has wonderful daughters. John Kerry has already accomplished more in his life than most of us could dream of. I wish I had his life and I am sure that he recognizes and is grateful for all of the things he has done and accomplished in a lifetime of service to his country.

[vanderBeth]

10. I'm still hoping he gets it. :(

[vanderBeth]

16. P.S. I love your sig.

[wisteria]

92. Obama would like to know.

http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[Fabio]

11. I am disappointed about the whole thing.

No disrespect to HRC - but JK has been a big believer and supporter of Obama's career for a long time (March 2003). And for those of us who supported both JK and BO with equivalent zeal, their campaigns will always be inexorably linked -- on a policy basis, among many early supporters, and in tone. So it definately hurts to see him be belittled.

[politicasista]

12. But, but he killed his chances by being over-aggressive to Obama.

He should have STFU.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Fabio]

13. yeah, a little rathergate action with that whole story.

[politicasista]

14. Yep. That was an AP spin that people here fell for

Excuse the sarcasm, but I am just mad that people thought that Kerry killed his chance when he kept a low profile about the speculation only to say he wasn't interested, but AP leaked a story to the media that he was "pushing" for the SOS job when he wasn't.

[seabeyond]

17. i was surprised

until i saw the

:sarcasm:

lol

i am not listening to the news, so dont know what yawl are talkin. and the threads on here, well we always have the dissers.....

i think kerry gets it. when i would get pissed at the unfairness thrown at him repeatedly, he always walked in integrity

i hope, and my guess would be, between obama and kerry, they were (as another poster, another thread said) did this in an adult manner and kerry is fine

[politicasista]

19. Yep. Been so

sarcastic (I just feel like doing that today for some reason :)) that I just want to throw every single talking point against Kerry out there and turn into to biting sarcasm.

Ironically, I am haven't listen to the news today. Didn't yesterday because of the McCain/Palin hoopla, but yes, you're right. If Kerry goes cabinet or stays as SFRC Chair, he will still have his integrity in tact.

Yes, I too am hoping that Obama and Kerry did this in an adult manner (I am sure they did :)), it's the silly media season so they need ratings. :)

:hi:

[seabeyond]

22. throw every single talking point ... been there, done that. yup. n/t

[politicasista]

24. Yep. n/t

[wisteria]

64. let it be known.

Let Obama know how you feel. Contact him here. http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[wisteria]

93. I agree.

Let Obama know how you feel, http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[dailykoff]

15. This is her reward for what exactly?

Running a clean campaign? Stepping down when it was clear she couldn't win and handing over her remaining funds to the clear winner? Or maybe lying about those flying bullets?

I'm really floored.

[AllentownJake]

18. Maybe he thinks she's the best person for the job?

Why is this a reward. From all reports he asked her to come to Chicago and inquired her interest.

[wisteria]

50. She is not qualified for this job- PERIOD. n/t

[northernlights]

60. wow! It must really be hard for you

to vote for and support someone you have so little respect for.

I respect Obama enough to trust he knows what he needs in each position.

I personally don't care whether he chooses Kerry or Clinton or Richardson or the tooth fairy for any given position. I just want the person who is most likely to be successful in it.

Personally, I think there is too much at stake to be using my tax dollars to reward favor-givers. I want to see them used to right this sinking titanic before we all go down.

[wisteria]

90. I voted for Obama because I wanted a change from the Clinton's

and I wanted to see Kerry become SOS. I reserve my opinion on Obama.

[Uben]

20. Obama is no fool

He knows exactly what he's doing. Clinton is the ideal choice for the position. She has met most of the foreign dignitaries already and she is highly respected around the world.

Obama will make no decisions that are not well thought out and to the advantage of our nation.

[Skwmom]

26. Great for the Clintons. They can take all of the credit for the improvement in foreign policy and

Obama can take all of the blame for the tanking economy and financial collapse (which the Clintons had a hand in creating). It's really mind-boggling when you think of it.

He took away what might be the strongest accomplishment he could claim in his re-election bid. Hmmm...

[politicasista]

29. delete. will leave it alone

Sometimes it is best to just let things work themselves out. :)

[AllentownJake]

35. Unless the sitting SOS

runs against the President.

What the hell is the problem?

[Uben]

40. WTF? What are you smokin?

Why would he have to take blame for the state of the economy? He hasn't even taken office yet? Jeez! And, Clinton will be following HIS policy, not hers, although I am sure they are mostly identical, or he would not have selected her (if she takes it).

You might think the man is naive, I do not. I think he is "the one"! Right man, right time, right nation! Remember, he will be Clinton's boss, he can replace her in the blink of an eye if he so chooses.

Your anti-Clinton bias is not appealing at all. We are democrats, and it's time to unite and get this country back on track. We do not need dissent in the ranks before Obama even gets started.

[Skwmom]

44. So you think Obama could replace her in the blink of an eye?

I don't.

Things are going to get really, really bad and the American public is going to be looking for someone to blame. Sure, Bush will be blamed but the sitting President will also be in the hot seat.

I would like this country to unite but please explain to me how putting a polarizing politician who many people don't trust in a position of such power is uniting this country? My extended family for once was on the same page. Now, everyone is fighting over Clinton as SOS. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.

[Uben]

45. Explanation: Qualifications!

She is the best choice from the field he is choosing from. If she is not, he will not select her. It's that simple.

Things ARE gonna be tough for a couple of years, but we will endeavor to persevere. In fact, we NEED a period of belt tightening to right the boat on this one. Obama has the right approach....JOBS! Put Americans back to work and we can achieve anything. He will be asking those who have, to give more. That is fair, and I am one of those people and I am willing to give everything if it will return America to its greatness. No sacrifice is too big for a goal like that. None!

[Skwmom]

46. What are her qualifications? How is she more qualified than Richardson or Kerry?

[Uben]

56. Her qualifications are well documented.......

.....and it would take more time than I am willing to give to list them all. If you are a dem, and have kept up on foreign affairs the last 16 yrs, then you know. If you do not, then get educated, That is not my burden.

[globalvillage]

62. I haven't seen them.

I think she's a poor choice for SoS. How about one reason to convince us otherwise?

[beachmom]

70. She is well respected in the world, GV. I can vouch for that. I saw

it in Europe on TV and from remarks Europeans said to me. John Kerry is equally respected, I may add. There is still disappointment that he is not POTUS.

[Skwmom]

73. Europe? What a hotbed of contention that area it is. Somehow, I don't think getting Europe

on board is our major concern.

[globalvillage]

81. In Europe, I heard plenty of support for Bill.

That's not a qualification for Hillary as SoS. I want good, strong diplomacy, and I haven't heard anything from Sen. Clinton that comforts me in that regard.

[wisteria]

87. Good points. n/t

[beachmom]

91. I heard specific support for Hillary. Just reporting that. nt

[globalvillage]

97. That's the first think I've heard today

that makes me feel a little better about the rumors.
Thanks.

[wisteria]

99. She never traveled that much as first lady and that was almost nine years ago. n/t

[beachmom]

111. I go to Europe every two years for nearly a month to visit family.

Hillary is highly regarded there. When my family came to visit this year, after the primaries, they were VERY disappointed that she was not the nominee. They think she is smart, capable, and has the experience to be POTUS. I am sure they feel that way for her possibly being SoS.

I will add that the same people who respect her, respect Gore and Kerry as well.

[Uben]

71. You have an opinion....

...it's not mine. I am very comfortable with letting Obama select the person he thinks is the best for the job, and I hope we both agree to that. If he chooses Clinton...great. But I will be satisfied if he chooses otherwise.

Deal?

[globalvillage]

84. That doesn't make me any more comfortable with Clinton as SoS

I still believe she's a poor choice, and I haven't heard any argument to convince me otherwise.

[wisteria]

88. Surely you do not believe he would choose her based on her qualifications?

They are barely nonexistent for this position. I voted for Obama because I wanted change- that change included no Clinton's. And, I voted for him in hopes that Kerry would finally receive some respect and get the recognition he deserved.

[LittleClarkie]

94. Number two is the reason I started down the road of support for Obama

but I have come to respect Obama's temperament and judgment as well and was honestly campaigning for him by the end as opposed to just following Kerry and his support.

It would be an odd choice indeed after all the acrimony of the primaries. I'd only hope that he picked her for the right reasons and not as a unity builder within the party.

[pecwae]

120. Jayzuz Keeryst!

Too many posters hate the Clintons more than they love the Obamas. Gonna be a long 4 years for them.

[MarthaMyDear]

54. Best post I've seen yet on this subject! Thanks!

:)

[MannyGoldstein]

83. Oh, Her Meetings In Bosnia/Herzegovina Will Be Poignant

She can recreate the corkscrew landing and sniper fire ordeal at the Tuzla airport.

What that woman has endured!

[wisteria]

96. Dignitaries have changed since 2000 and her respect around the world is no more than

Kerry or Richardson. She is no diplomat, and she doesn't have the demeanor or stature for this position.

[Unbowed]

130. Yeah, right. Let's hope she avoids the sniper fire this time. n/t

[mtnsnake]

21. wahhhhHHHHHHHH

[AllentownJake]

36. Seriously

It was 6 months ago. You know me I was probably one of the worst offenders on here during the primaries and even I let go.

[wisteria]

65. As long as she is around as a pox on our party, I won't let up on her.

She is a vengful,hateful little witch.

[Name removed]

118. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[AZBlue]

23. Does anyone here know for sure that Kerry wants it?

Has he told Obama he doesn't want a cabinet position? Was he asked and turned it down? Was it just a rumor that Kerry was being considered? Is Kerry lobbying for the position?

Without being able to answer these questions factually and conclusively, I think we should all step back.

[seabeyond]

25. yes. exactly. and i am fine with hillary too. a bunch of making a fight that probably

isnt there.

waste of time, energy and emotion....

[AZBlue]

27. I bet the SOS winds up being neither one.

[seabeyond]

42. lol, probably. as i say in another post, havent been watching, following or

falling, for guesses

will wait and see.

i got the time.

[wisteria]

52. I think he would want it under certain circumstances.

She doesn't want it at all except to screw over Kerry and Richardson.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. I agree. He seems to have really come into his own. He and his

wife were so absolutely gracious during the convention, class act. He is so much more succinct than he
used to be - and he really zeroes in on good comebacks and debate arguments.

[wisteria]

101. Please share you views.

I am sure President Obama would like to hear from you, http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[stray cat]

30. He is a respected senator with a guaranteed pension and health insurance for life

with a wealthy wife and wonderful kids

[globalvillage]

34. Who would make a great SoS.

Hillary, not so much.

[Firespirit]

31. I'm not going to believe this just yet

We have no reason to think that these "advisors" are anything except Clintonites. Have you read Al Giordano's piece yet: http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/

With these Clinton advisors as vindictive toward Kerry and Richardson as they are known to be, spreading a false rumor that Hillary was Obama's first choice for SoS would only hurt one of the others if she's not picked. It would make that individual look like a reluctant second choice. Kerry would be hurt most particularly by it if he were chosen, since it would look like Hillary rejected the post to stay in the Senate, while he took it after just being re-elected. (Funny how they ignore that Biden also just got re-elected.)

I rather suspect it is also the Clintonites who are saying that "Obama's staff thinks Kerry is a lightweight and Richardson is a flake." Several of Obama's staff are former Kerryites, including some high level officials. Biden himself has worked with Kerry on the SFRC. "Lightweight"? The only people I can think of who would say that are Clintonites, who, not so coincidentally, would also call Richardson a "flake." (Resentment still lingering over that endorsement maybe?)

Add that to the fact that there are numerous people even in Obama's own staff, Susan Rice for example, who would be qualified and have more experience with foreign affairs than Hillary, and it just doesn't make any sense. She is better qualified for other things. This appointment would, frankly, be bizarre. It's not as if there is a dearth of talent.

I'm hearing, now, that this meeting was only to gauge her interest in something (possibly not even SoS -- we have nothing except these two anonymous advisors saying that) and ask if she wanted to be vetted, not to "offer her the SoS position" as was blasted across the Internets earlier. So the Clintonites pushing that version of the story have already been caught red-handed in an exaggeration. Big surprise.

[LittleClarkie]

32. That's sounds reasonable. And I do trust Obama's judgement

When I saw the news on Huffpo I just thought it was true. Maybe not so much.

But I have to consider that the reports saying he wanted the job might be false as well.

[Firespirit]

41. I just think there's a whole lotta lyin' goin' on

Maybe he's not interested, and the rumors that he was simply got out of hand. That could be true. I saw a rumor, earlier this week, that Kerry already had been selected for SoS. That could also be true, if Hillary has actually been approached for something else and her staff said it was for SoS.

But if he's not interested, then whoever said that "Obama's staff thinks he is a lightweight" is lying. If he's not interested, he's not interested, and that is the deciding factor, not what some anonymous probable Clintonite thinks of him.

When I saw "Obama's transition staff think JK is a lightweight and BR is a flake," that's when my bullshit meter started going up. The choice was never solely between JK, BR, or HRC. There were/are other names being considered. Yet this person specifically bashed those two, when at least one of them has former staff who work in high positions for Obama and Biden both. What they have in common, and what the other names do not have, is being on the Clinton shit list. I think this is a Clintonite hit job, not necessarily even conducted with Hillary's approval, and that by going nasty like that, they overplayed their hand and it becomes much more evident. If one of them does end up as SoS, that slime will be out there, and it'll look like Obama picked an underqualified person because Hillary was just too magnanimous and too dutiful to NY to accept it.

If this conjecture is in any way accurate, the ironic thing is that it cannot help Clinton's own prospects if she is serious about an administration job.

[seabeyond]

47. bill richardson.

got it

[wisteria]

82. it wouldn't hurt to ...

let Obama know of your feelings. http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

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[pipi_k]

37. As a resident of Mass...

I'm in a dilemma about it

I think he deserves it, but I don't want him to leave us

Especially, as someone else pointed out, with Ted Kennedy being in the shape he is


:(

[LittleClarkie]

38. Understandable

That's gotta suck.

[politicasista]

39. Understand

:grouphug:

After reading your post. I will just leave this alone and see what happens.

[wisteria]

57. I can understand that, but after this Cinton manuver, I don't want to

see her get it at all- she is so undeserving. Senator Kerry deserves this and is so much more qualified. This makes him look like Obama doesn't think so.

[Mass]

43. I' ve have not seen any nomination yet.

The media pushing Clinton mean nothing. Remember the rumors about VP.

[wisteria]

55. Yes, very similar, but there is something more sinister about this

breaking news regardingg Clinton as SOS.

[wisteria]

48. I agree, the Clinton's are a black mark on our party.

Kerry never gets a break. He doesn't have the media Clinton mouthpieces promoting him. Frankly, I am so disgusted right now with Obama and the Clinton's I am seriously considering becoming an independent. Hillary is a ego driven witch with a with a vindictive mean streak. She will not stop at this- her goal is to diminish and ruin Obama. Inside or outside the inner circle she mean no good.

[LittleClarkie]

51. I don't have those feelings about as much as I do with some of the Clintonistas

The Ragin' Cajun Martian man comes to mind. (I can't seem to dredge up his name at the mo'). I'm none to comfortable with Ralm either. But I understand why he will be good where he is. I just didn't like the way these people attacked Dean in 2006.

[wisteria]

59. It is so sad, the Clinton's are so undeserving and Kerry is just perfect for this position.

She is like a blackhead that won't go away.

[Skwmom]

112. Someone sure does seem to relish putting the screws to Richardson and Kerry,

with the "leaks" that are being reported. It's vindictive, petty, and mean and a heck of a way to treat people that supported Obama when it counted.

[Tiggeroshii]

53. AG wouldn't be bad...

I could dig ag

[d_b]

58. I'm with ya

Kerry for SOS!

[wisteria]

61. Tell Obama how you feel.

http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[LittleClarkie]

69. Here's what I just wrote:

Hi

I'm just here logging in my support for John Kerry, and I'd very much like to see him get an appointment if he so desires somewhere in the administration. He has so much experience in so many areas that I'd hate to see that go to waste. He'd be a tireless worker in any position he was given. And he's a good man -- a very good man.

No, I'm not Teresa :)

Of course, II trust Obama's judgment. Whoever he picks for his administration will be right for the job, I have no doubt. Even so, I though putting in a good word couldn't hurt.

Keep up the good work. It seems to me that the transition is just as organized as the campaign was. Thank you for that, by the way. I've never felt so included in any campaign as I did in Obama's. And it was nice to see my little Republican suburb not be ignored for once. We didn't go blue, mind you, but we did improve the percentage of the vote quite a bit.

Thanks again.

Erica
Obama Team, Waukesha County, 5d purple, Data Entry (among other things)

[wisteria]

78. Very nice. I wasn't that nice. n/t

[d_b]

77. done

[wisteria]

79. Good. n/t

[Skwmom]

113. Isn't a majority of the transition team former Clinton people?

[wisteria]

63. Look at this.

Here is a link - let Obama know how you feel.
http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

[beachmom]

67. The coveted Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committee perhaps?

Because that is his job if nothing changes. The same committee for which he gave his famous testimony in 1971.

Cheer up. It's not that bad.

[ElizabethDC]

72. I agree.

That wouldn't be a bad "fallback" at all. ;)

Methinks Sen. Kerry will do just fine, whatever happens.

[wisteria]

75. You would, you were a Clinton supporter. n/t

[LittleClarkie]

80. Wisteria, with all due respect, the primaries are over

While there many be machinations we're not aware of behind the scenes re: Clintonistas and such, I doubt the Hillary supporters here are in on it.

[ElizabethDC]

98. Yeah, I've long put the primaries behind me.

My main interest at this point is that Obama gets a good team together - and I don't necessarily think that Sen. Clinton is the best person for SOS!

[wisteria]

106. I had and have no interest in the past. I never got involved in the primaries.

I was suggesting that your favoritism toward Clinton may influences your opinion. And, I will say this, if Kerry is not to get this it should be because Obama wants someone more qualified than him and the only person who is is Holbrook. Then, there is still the compatibility issue. I may have been to aggressive toward you, I apologize.

[wisteria]

103. With all due respect to you, I am not fighting the primaries. But, once a Clinton supporter always a

supporter and that affects ones opinion. My loathing of the Clinton's were never primary based. I stayed out of the primaries.

[ElizabethDC]

104. Oy vey! Way to hold a grudge.

You don't seem to know anything about me or my opinions.

[ElizabethDC]

95. Oooh, but that's not what I meant at all.

I'm totally neutral toward the Clinton as SOS possibility. I think Kerry is far more qualified for the position than she is, and would love for him to have the job. But I'm trying to look at the positives - even if he doesn't get it, he still has a big role to play.

[LittleClarkie]

100. Cheers

Sounds like we agree. It would be an odd choice. But as someone said, I'll try to wait until we have a source that doesn't mind being named.

[ElizabethDC]

105. Definitely an odd choice

I don't know what's going on, and I'm as surprised as anyone!

[wisteria]

107. You see, I don't see much positive. A committee chair is not the same

as President or SOS. I see further mocking and disrespectful treatment toward Kerry. I do not see a big role to play for Kerry. I see him being ignored and not given credit for his work. In other words, just the treatment he has mostly gotten since 2004. Sorry, I did not mean to take my pessimism out on you.

[karynnj]

133. Hi ElizabethDC

Nice to see your posts again. It is good to see the bright side. His default Senate position is one of real power.

If Obama's and Kerry's foreign policy ideas are similar, which they really appeared to be - Kerry will, in either position be a key foreign policy adviser. I would be disappointed if I knew for certain that Kerry really really wanted to be SoS and it was given to HRC for political reasons - not because Obama and Biden saw a way that she could be more effective than him. The fact though is that we would never know if either of these (or both) were true. Senator Kerry would never speak of the first and Obama would be crazy to speak of the second.

As you say the consolation is that he would have the job that he has always used for good - and he will for the first time in his career be in a progressive Senate with a huge majority and seniority - not to mention it seems likely he will be able to get the President's ear. (Not to mention he seems to have an incredible personal life with a wonderful extended family.)

Even when he spoke in 1971, he wanted to help change foreign policy - maybe he can move it as head of the SFRC as an adviser to Obama . He might already have started that if Obama really is for change in the last several decades foreign policy.

[Fabio]

119. problem is he only is chair at SFRC for 2 years

then Dodd is back

[JI7]

122. so maybe he will be sec of state later on, as they tend to last 4 or less years

[beachmom]

129. Really? Dodd can do that? He is saying he only wants to chair Banking for 2 years

then switch back to SFRC?

Hmmm ... that changes things perhaps.

[Fabio]

132. that's the word on the street.

[wisteria]

74. What is coveted about it? Dodd doesn't even want it.

Please stop trying to make this position out to be better than SOS, because it is not.

[ProSense]

102. Because Dodd wants to keep banking.

Senority on a Senate Committee is a powerful position that often speaks to expertise in a particular area. Being elevated to chairman is a powerful position with oversight of the Executive and control over the legislative agenda of that committee. Regardless of which party is in the WH or which Party controls the Senate, the current Committee Chairmen serve as the ranking member in the majority or minority.

[wisteria]

108. Yes, because it is more powerful and important right now.

As for given up the senate- I can think of several reasons to give it up. He was ready to give it up for the Presidency, he could be bored in the same job he has held for over twenty years. The SOS positron gives him an opportunity to gain world wide respect and recognition and an opportunity to change our view in the world. So what are you saying with your post? Do you know something others do not? Or, are you just opposed to him leaving the senate?

[beachmom]

116. Dodd is staying with Banking because we are in the middle of a financial crisis.

And it is a better fit for him and the state he represents, which has a lot of banking and insurance. Kerry, OTOH, is well known for his foreign policy expertise. He is a better fit for SFRC.

[beachmom]

115. I disagree with your OPINION of which position is better.

But to act like this is nothing more than a lateral move is not examining the power structure of each position. I believe we have all heard of Fulbright, former chairman of the SFRC. It is a very prestigious post. I am sorry that you disrespect the legislative branch so much. I think the executive branch has been overly emphasized over the legislative branch. All three branches of power are to be equal. If that is so, you're telling me that the Chairman of the premier foreign policy committee in the Senate is to be sneered at?

Look, I understand you wanted Kerry at State. Clearly, Kerry was interested in that position. But it is not the end of the world if he is chairman of the SFRC, where he can do INVESTIGATIONS, something less likely at State.

Post Script:

By the way, whoever is picked as SoS must be confirmed by the SFRC who will be chaired by Kerry, if he is not SoS. So a little respect, if you will.

[JI7]

121. Chair of SFRC is how Biden ended up being picked for VP

[wisteria]

76. No it is bad. n/t

[globalvillage]

89. I completely support Sen. Kerry as chairman of the SFRC

I just don't like Clinton for SoS. There are other jobs that are more suited to her temperament. She just doesn't strike me as a diplomat, and we've been waiting an awful long time for some real diplomacy.

If Kerry doesn't want SoS, I'd be happy enough with Richardson.

[wisteria]

109. I think Kerry would like this position.

If he doesn't and it is obvious that he doesn't than I can accept that. However, I still think he might want it and it is disturbing to see others less qualified being promoted for the position.

[globalvillage]

110. We have to consider extenuating circumstances

Would he leave MA without an experienced Senator given Teddy's illness? Does he think he can make more of an impact on foreign policy chairing the SFRC? It is a really powerful position, probably more than SoS, even if it's less high-profile.

So many reasons he should stay in the Senate. I think he'll end up doing what's best for the country, whichever that is.

[TankLV]

114. Who?

Who?

Who?

Who?

WhoWhoWho?

And, just, as important, when?

[AtomicKitten]

117. My impression is that JK is still Obama's #1 choice for SoS.

The Clintons always manage to suck the oxygen out of the room in a preemptive smooth move to make it appear it's a done deal, but it ain't over til it's over.

[cboy4]

123. Maybe if he would have fought back harder against the

swiftboaters, he'd have just been elected to his second term.

I hope he gets an appointment.

But it's very tiresome listening to Kerry supporters whine about how persecuted he is.

[JI7]

124. didn't you just whine about how Richardson stabbed Hillary in the back ?

[cboy4]

125. Yea I did. So? What does that have to do with this

thread?

[zulchzulu]

126. Kerry WILL be Secretary of State unless Richardson doesn't want it

Either way, he'll be in a great position in the Obama administration.

[Unbowed]

127. There are undoubtedly things at work none of us knows.

Personally, I believe the position is Kerry's if he wants it, but there may be other plans in the works.

SoS is a position I'd like to see Kerry in, but it's not up to me. It's a nice position for a Senator who has worked long and hard for the cause of diplomacy. Maybe Kerry has other plans, however. We just don't know.

Sigh. It's sad though. I believe Hillary Clinton is completely wrong for the position. We'll see.

[Orsino]

131. I don't know that he wants the job.

But Obama would be foolish not to meet with him to determine who should be tapped.