Gov. Jennifer Granholm, born 1959, under consideration for SCOTUS

[Unsane]

she is the former AG of Michigan and former Assistant United States Attorney.

At 49, she would be the youngest member of the court, and could serve up to 30 years (putting her at 79).

http://www.freep.com/article/20081110/COL04/81110073/1008/news06

[Thrill]

1. She is so sexy when she wears those glasses. I'm so attracted to her

[EconomicLiberal]

51. Go take a cold shower. n/t

[Bake]

70. Great reason to put her on the bench.

Seriously, she may be a really good pick.

Bake

[Teaser]

92. unintentional pun of the day

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[Unsane]

79. lol

[SoxFan]

89. Uh oh, "Little Starbursts" alert!

[Unsane]

90. lol!

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

2. She was the Editor in Chief of the Harvard

Civil Rights/Civil Liberties Law Review when I was a first year law student and staffer on that journal. Can't imagine that a former CRCL Editor wouldn't be precisely the sort of justice we need these days.

[Eric J in MN]

8. 25 years ago? That doesn't tell us if she cares about civil liberties now. NT

NT

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

27. The CRCL review was the hardest left of all HLS journals

by a long shot, which was why I volunteered for it. She can't have drifted that far. Though I would welcome serious inspection of her views on things like the unitary executive and the "Patriot" act. Alls I'm sayin' is that she has some good precedents in her background, not that she'd deserve a free pass.

Peace, bro!

[BlooInBloo]

82. (facepalm)

[Unsane]

85. lol

[Wilms]

3. Ummm..."under consideration for SCOTUS" by the author of the article.

I don't think that counts.

[Eryemil]

4. Please, universe if you allow this to happen I will be your bitch

[Unsane]

66. lol

[Eric J in MN]

5. I want someone with a record of supporting civil liberties, such as Russ Feingold.

I have no idea how Granhom feels about civil liberties.

[Unsane]

65. i'm sure she's great

[Beausoir]

6. I lived under Granholm. Take a good hard look at how MI is doing under her leadership.

Jobs......down.
Environmental concerns.....ignored.
Crime....WAY up.

Jennifer Granholm has been a failure.

[firedupdem]

9. I used to live in Michigan too...but I never really felt like the things

happening were really anything she could control. The automotive mess was just waiting to happen and the crime in Detroit is the fault of a lot of other issues. I always liked Jennifer. Be nice!

:)

[Thrill]

10. The people in Michigan don't seem to blame her for things

Its kind of weird

[Drunken Irishman]

16. Her approval ratings are shit.

For a governor to be in the 30s is never good.

[Thrill]

19. Oh. I just remember her winning re-election big

If those are her approval ratings, she would be wise to take a position in the Administration

[Drunken Irishman]

22. The last I saw had her at 37% in August.

It may have gone up, but I doubt they're above 50%.

[blue_onyx]

38. I think it was 41-42 in late September early Ocatober

and her favorability was in the low 50s.

[fadedrose]

24. Nobody asked "me" - I blame her....

For a former AG, how in the world did she and cronies come up with a primary that Michigan's legislature declared unconstitional???

I could forgive her if she were a former cab driver, but .....

[No Elephants]

31. How in the world does a legislature declare something unconstitutional? That's for courts.

[fadedrose]

41. Don't ask me.....I only know what I read....

Look at this - it says "Michigan January 15 Primary Unconstitutional.."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/27/michigan-january-15-prima_n_93679.html

Take it up with them.

[fadedrose]

43. Sorry, I get your point now

I wrote my first response too quickly saying it was the legislature, even misspelled the word, "unconstitutional," and I should have said the "courts."

Sharp eye, thanks for correction.

I still hold the view that Granholm should have known it would be unconstitutional because she was not formerly a cab driver, but the AG.

Supreme Court - nah.... If I were on the vetting committee who screens SC judge nominees (Leahy, Spector?), I would definitely call her on this. The MSC's decision seemed to have no effect on Mrs. Clinton either.

[Beausoir]

12. Be nice about what? She's a failure. I dare you to go to the union members in Grand Rapids

and tell them to "be nice".

Go to Herman Miller and tell them to "be nice".

[firedupdem]

13. What did she do the union members?...maybe you can enlighten me..

I moved out of michigan after losing my job but I don't blame her. I blame the messed up economy and my company moving my job out of the country. I was telling you to be nice with a smiley face lightening things up...perhaps I'm in a better mood than you but there's no need to get nasty or dare me to do anything.

[Unsane]

35. *crickets*

[dkf]

34. She wasn't give a good hand to play though was she...

You think someone could have done better?

[Two Americas]

36. hope you are kidding

After the mess Engler left the state in, and with a gerrymandered into office obstructionist right wing legislature?

By your way of measuring these things, the Obama administration is certain to be a failure as well, as the chickens come home to roost from the Bush era.

[blue_onyx]

37. You're wrong about it being her fault

Our economy started going down in 2001, 2 years before her term started. Plus, the loss of jobs has been a result of poor federal trade policies that have devastated manufacturing in this country, on top of a collapsing US auto industry. How is she to blame for these problems?

[erinlough]

50. Engler did to Michigan what Bush has done to the US

and then Gov. Granholm came in. Obama faces much the same situation as she has. People have such short memories that I have no doubt he will face the same blame as she does some day in the future. As far as I'm concerned she has done a great job after the rape Michigan has had by Engler and the Republicans who stayed in the House and Senate. Huge contracts which have been a burden were inherited from Engler and then given to Granholm. We were declining in the last two years of his administration and people have already forgotten.....what a shame.

[Unsane]

91. you're exactly right

[Festivito]

56. Those are right-wing talking points and are not correct.

Yes, jobs are down, but that relates to Republican control of the federal economy, not Granholm.

All areas of state government have had budget cuts, but environmental concerns have not been gutted. I deal with them and they are still there and visible.

I have not seen reports of crime being up, let alone way up. I live inside the city of Detroit and have not noticed this marked increase you call "way up".

I say she's a success, and repudiate your word: failure. The only reason she is painted as a failure is due to the money of DeVos and Blackwater goons from west Michigan.

[Unsane]

60. agreed

[Obamarama]

59. Well, if you live in Michigan, then you remember that fat, worthless, three-term fuck named Engler.

He left Gov. Granholm 12 years of garbage to clean up. She's a governor, not a goddess with magical powers.

Jennifer Granholm has done an outstanding job in working with the mess she was left to clean up, and anyone in Michigan ought to know that. How could anyone expect her to clean up 12 years of fuck ups in the six years she has been in office?

[Unsane]

80. agreed

[Fran Kubelik]

84. agreed

Where is that asshole these days? I hated him so much.

[Tutonic]

7. Now that would be a sign of infinite wisdom coming from the Commander

in Waiting!

[Unsane]

57. yeppers

[AllentownJake]

11. The Canadian thing

Would she be the first non-American born citizen to be placed on the Supreme Court.

[Liberalboy]

14. There is nothing that seems to say you have to be a natural born citizen...

Madeline Albright was SoS and was naturalized

[Unsane]

15. You do not have to be a natural born citizen. The GOP has wanted Alex Kozinski on the Court

for a while now, and I believe he was born in Romania.

[AllentownJake]

26. Yes

I know its constitutional however would she be the first?

[Unsane]

61. Felix Frankfurter was born in Austria.

[bornskeptic]

28. No, she would not be the first.

Felix Frankfurter was born in Austria.

[vixengrl]

17. I like the idea that Obama would choose someone young.

I think Justices Alito, Roberts and Thomas need some people that'll hang in as long as they will. Or longer. If she's not such great stuff as a Governor, maybe she's better at law than execution? Someone up-thread said Russ Feingold was a possibility.

I *heart* Feingold. Genuinely comes across as principled, re: Iraq war and how our campaigns are conducted and being the only guy to vote against the Patriot Act; I strongly suspect he was the only one to give it a good read and actually thnk about the consequences and respected the Constitution enough to say "no". He really impresses me. He's also pretty young and for the person upthread who finds Granholm hot, well...that should not be a consideration. Really.

Yeah. But, I think Russ is kind of hot. :) (Sorry, can't help it.)

[Robeson]

18. We have to think young. Whether it's her or someone else, we need to look at age...

...with our choice. We can't cave in on that.

[vixengrl]

20. Absolutely--the balance of the Court depends on it.

If we can call Bush smart about anything, it was in picking two Justices we'd be dealing with for a long time. I truly hope the article is right and Obama has the opportunity to maybe replace someone like Scalia. If he goes two terms, he very well might. I also think, based on what I know of Obama, he can truly make an informed decision about his choices.

I also don't wonder....very long term, if post-presidency, some future president isn't wondering if Obama should be like another Taft. You know? That would be awesome, and he would be just that capable.

[jemsan]

21. You can't blame Jennifer Granholm for what's happening....

in Michigan now. Like Bill Maher said tonight the Ford family can't even run a football team!!! The big 3 have been a disaster for way longer than Granholm has been in office. She just has the privilege of presiding over the funeral.

[Unsane]

88. agreed

[fadedrose]

23. Hope she gets appointed soon so that somebody else....

could run for gov of Michigan....

That "primary" we had makes me feel that our state's highest officials are thugs at worst, stupid at best....

[TexasObserver]

25. I like her so far. I'll have to look at her record, however.

[JI7]

29. she would be a great choice

[Unsane]

69. agreed

[No Elephants]

30. On the SCOTUS, 79 is young.

[Unsane]

32. good point

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[Unsane]

78. maybe some other time

[blue_onyx]

39. I think it's unlikely for her to be appointed to the Supreme Court

Granholm has never been a judge. This isn't necessarily an offical qualification but I think people would prefer someone with previous court experience. I do think she'll have some sort of position in the Obama administration. Granholm seems to be close to Obama/Biden. She played the Palin part for Biden's debate preparation. She was personally invited to the last president debate. She's also on Obama's economic advisory team and had a prominent seat next to Biden (who was next to Obama) at the meeting. I think she would great on the Supreme Court but I see some sort of other position coming her way.

[EconomicLiberal]

42. Was Earl Warren a judge before he was nominated to the Supreme Court?

[Unsane]

44. nope

[blue_onyx]

45. Thanks to wikipedia, it doesn't appear he was

I'm not saying one has to have been a judge to be on Supreme Court. I just think a lot of people would prefer someone who has been a judge before (she would have to get Senate approval). I hope Obama does pick Granholm. First, it would allow her to stay in Michigan for a longer amount of time and finish more of her remaining term. Secondly, she would do a great job.

[EconomicLiberal]

46. You don't have to have previous experience as a judge to become a justice.

Earl Warren was never a judge. And look at his record. He is one of the most influential men of the 20th century.

[Unsane]

47. Some argue Warren's influence largely stemmed from the fact that he was a former executive.

I think Granholm could be a leader on the court.

We need progressive leaders in the federal judiciary.

[blue_onyx]

48. I know

That's what I said. It's NOT a requirement but I think it's a qualification that many people have placed upon nominees on their own. If you asked someone, do you think a person should have had previous experience as judge to be a Supreme Court justice, most would yes.

[Unsane]

49. Most people can't even NAME a Supreme Court justice.

[AZ Criminal JD]

54. Maybe the people you associate with

[Unsane]

64. You mean my fellow law school classmates?

Smartass much?

[AZ Criminal JD]

74. I don't know what kind of law school you went to

I went to Bama and my classmates can name most, if not all, of the Supreme Court.

[Unsane]

76. MY peers can. But my peers aren't who I'm talking about.

Notwithstanding your insistence.

[BlooInBloo]

83. Whoa - you might want to try hanging out in a *literate* crowd.

[Unsane]

87. lolz

[cooolandrew]

40. Works for me he should only appoint women to bring equilirium to the court.

[Unsane]

77. yep

[ColbertWatcher]

52. Only 49! Yes, please! n/t

[No Elephants]

72. Too old! We need a 35 year old.

[Unsane]

73. Unlikely. Most law school graduates are already 26-27 before they even begin their careers.

A person who is only 35 would be pretty inexperienced for a SCOTUS appointment.

I do support appointing said individual to a federal district court though, where they can be groomed etc.

[tokenlib]

53. Granholm would be a good choice--a lasting impression on the court..

And I for one am tired of her being the pinata and scapegoat for the economic shitpile Michigan has become--it isn't her fault. And yes I live here in MI too.

[Unsane]

55. agreed

[Diamonique]

58. Another Michigander chiming in. I agree with you 100%!!

[Faygo Kid]

62. I remember a governor named Earl Warren who turned into a pretty fine justice.

Granholm would be great on the Court.

[Unsane]

63. I love the idea of appointing former executives to the court.

They're used to leading.

God bless Ginsberg, Breyer, and Souter, but they aren't the "liberal lions" we need on the Court right now. You think Governor Granholm is going to be talked down by Scalia or Thomas? Yeah right!!

[noonwitch]

67. She would be a great choice!

Before she was Governor, she was a great AG-better than the current one, that's for sure.

[Unsane]

68. agreed, she has the chops

[bdamomma]

71. great choice.

she has alot to offer.

[Unsane]

75. agreed

[rvablue]

81. Unsane, I agree, I like her for SCOTUS, but what's the deal

besides myself, ahema, you're the only one who has posted to this in the last two days.

Is she paying you?

[Unsane]

86. oh come on