SwampG8r
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:26 AM
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the senate majority is too slim for obama to be cherry picking it for cabinet positions |
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the states will have to have special elections in most cases to replace those pulled out the gop will stop at nothing to place GOP senators in those seats the best move legislatively is to leave the senate as is or give lieberman a cabinet position so a real democrat can have his seat bill nelson of florida is working to obtain an appointment what do you think charlie crist will send as an interem? what do you think the voters of florida will send to replace him? (frankly we couldnt do MUCH worse than nelson as is ) if you are lobbying for a senator to go to the cabinet no matter WHO it is you are supporting the possible loss of the senate majority if franken wins thats 60 i believe (i may be wrong) 60 is a MAGIC number in the senate
thank you for your time
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:28 AM
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1. he should appoint olympia snowe |
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or another repug in a liberal state who would most likely be replaced by a dem
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:29 AM
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he should use the cabinet to remove moderate GOP members FROM the senate NO DEMS IN THE SENATE SHOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED!!!
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Sat Nov-15-08 01:03 AM
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27. But also you can't have your cabinet full of people who would undermine your agenda... |
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Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 01:03 AM by Tiggeroshii
so you gotta be tactful
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:28 AM
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2. So if you send Kerry to Foggy Bottom, you think the Republicans are going to take his seat? |
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(BTW, to get 60, Begich has to win in AK, Franken in MN, and Chambliss has to lose in the GA runoff.)
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:33 AM
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6. AND that includes LIEberman as things are now, right? |
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:35 AM
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Sat Nov-15-08 01:13 AM
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29. It does. If Lieberman defects, we can only hope for 59. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:34 AM
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7. i am going to stand by my statement |
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people will have to do a lot of getting used to new things pretty quick there will be an electoral backlash at some point like when clinton had the congress turned on him in 96(again not sure) and bush lost it in 06 there are no promises that mass. voters are immune to that backlash
i love to read you OB and im a fan but im sticking with my statement if we only have 57 then we need every one of them
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:31 AM
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4. This leaves Obama with the monumental task of figuring out which states replace U.S. Senators |
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with a special election or which ones have the governor appoint a replacement. Hey, I bet he can do it.
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:32 AM
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we do need to keep a strong senate majority. we would have 58 if Coleman & Shambliss still pull their races out, so we've got an uphill climb to get beyond 57. That being the case, I cannot see him taking any senator from our side unless it's a certainty he/she will be replaced with another DEM. Nelson is hawkish on intl, and only moderate on social issues, his only saving grace is that he's a bit stronger when it comes to backing the Obama plan on economy from what I can see. He, of course, pushes for NASA and honestly, we don't have money for that, but yeah, do we want another Mel Martinez getting a senate seat? ICK.
So, O will definitely pull from people retired, looking for work that aren't in elected office, and those who can be replaced by a DEM, in most circumstances. I just wish they'd kick LIEberman's arse to the curb... he's a traitor and reminds me of the emperor in Star Wars....
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:35 AM
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:45 AM
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17. seriously, right? if you put makeup on lieberman he'd look JUST LIKE him |
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and could have been his body double! LOL it's creepy that he is acting like Palpatine to boot! he acts so nicey now that P-elect Obama has won, but I wouldn't trust him to bring me a glass of water!
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:36 AM
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10. Why don't he just pick the best for the job |
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We have a big enough lead to risk the possibility of one seat loss. The republicans aren't all powerful
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:41 AM
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14. i have just spent 8 years |
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where they were "all powerful" i dont want that to happen again laws were twisted deformed broken our constitution is a tattered thing i dont want to have to argue the return of the constitution to this country not with a bunch of greedy dangerous fascists i want every vote to be a win
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:46 AM
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20. I really love your thinking!!! :) cheers! |
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:39 AM
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13. The Governor would appoint replacements |
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right? If that is the case and if it was a democrat governor, I would assume he/she would appoint a democrat in that seat.
Can you imagine the Illinois governor appointing a republican to the president elect Barack Obama's seat? It ain't going to happen.
Our new president is an EXTREMELY intelligent man and he wouldn't appoint someone to a cabinet post without knowing that the appointee's seat is a safely democratic one.
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:42 AM
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15. in most states he appoints |
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an interem senator until either the next senatorial election or a special election as each states constitution specifies
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:49 AM
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if you look at the States that representatives are from, they seem to be democratic leaning States. Also it would give the new democratic senator/congressperson a couple of years to build up a positive record to ran on by re-election time.
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:54 AM
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we would get a second GOP senator for at least 2 years and then he would run as an incumbent
and we are not the only state where this is foreseeable
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:58 AM
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25. Do you have a democrat now? |
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and is Barack looking at that person for a cabinet position?
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Sat Nov-15-08 01:27 AM
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bill nelson we have a GOP governor and he will appoint a crony in a couple years he will be the incumbent on the ballot its how we do things down here
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:43 AM
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16. NY would replace a Democratic Hillary Clinton with another Democratic Senator. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:52 AM
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22. and you are probably most likely correct |
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this isnt directed to any persons being named or not named for a cabinet job(exceppt bill nelson who i would not pick for any cabinet spot) my only worry is the loss of senate seats and frankly a lot of those named hillary clinton included john kerry included are waaaaay more than qualified,for if not the jobs speculated over here,then for every position but where at the end of the day will their work yield the highest payback?
i do not want voters to face the next election and not see these familiar faces
and a cabinet job is kind of a political dead end
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:45 AM
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18. The Senators who have been named so far have Dem governors. |
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NY, MA, DE, IL are going to nominate or elect a Pub. You also have to remember that the Dems are NOT "in lock step" like the Pubs are. There is no magic number.
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:45 AM
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19. GOP senators from states with Democratic governors! |
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Pick off two or three, and it's filibusting time.
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:56 AM
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Sat Nov-15-08 01:01 AM
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26. Snowe and Collins, for example. Sec of Whatever. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 01:09 AM
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28. Why not turn the tables and revive the concept of Bill Frist's NUCLEAR OPTION? |
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