It is INCONCEIVABLE how scared of him they are.

[Bicoastal]

I spent a few minutes digging around in FreeperLand, and man--it's not just hate, it's blank FEAR.

On the issue of his Birth Certificate alone (yawn), they now have an elaborate conspiracy lined up consisting of Barack's Grandmother in Hawaii (deceased), Barack's other Grandmother in Kenya (black), every major newspaper in Honolulu, Gov. Lisa Lingle, Gov. Rod Blagojevich, Hillary Clinton, Colin Powell, Snopes.com, Factcheck.org, the Associated Press, and even Fox News.

According to them, Barack Obama spent three decades of his life hushing up or paying off hundreds of people and forging thousands of documents and even going to the trouble of running for higher office and writing two books just to fool everyone into thinking he was an American-born citizen, when in fact, he's not.

What he IS (Kenyan? Indonesian? Martian?), they can't tell you. But they're absolutely 100% he's NOT American, and this will all come out before the inauguration, spearheaded by the totally trustworthy likes of Jerome Corsi, Phillip J. Berg, and (God Help Us) Alan Keyes.

The only problem is, they're worried that the Supreme Court is ALSO in Barack Obama's pocket right now, as well as the entire Media establishment, and besides, as a Powerful Black Man, apparently Obama has the power to snap his fingers and make every single minority in the country riot bloodily upon his command.

This is only one of the issues they're worried about, folks. If Sean Hannity went on the air and told them that Barack Obama is the illegitimate spawn of Imelda Marcos and Tyronne Hitler, Adolf's long-lost black half-brother, they'd not only believe it, but they'd immediately discover an additional link between Tyronne and a radical Muslim cleric in Libya, despite the fact that I just made him up.

Oh, and all these people seem to be heavily armed.

:scared:

[Demobrat]

1. The heavily armed part

is the only reason to take these people seriously at all.

[Vektor]

90. I also think many of them are bluffing. They can be whomever they want on the internet.

Many of them are pimply teens living in mom's basement, spewing hate over the internet, fantasizing about being a conservative superhero with the world's largest arsenal of assault rifles and stock-piled cream corn in their bunkers, awaiting the "revolution."

The only thing many of them are armed with is a major case of self loathing, a vivid - albeit demented - imagination, and a scalding case of body odor.

[Window]

94. If they are so terribly unhappy, perhaps they'll use those arms

for themselves.

[evlbstrd]

2. Heavily armed?

It's their version of letters to Penthouse.

[givemebackmycountry]

3. Nice post - earned a kick just for how freaking INSANE these people are.

Oh, and guess what assholes?

We're armed too.

Just sayin'

[SwampG8r]

10. yup

just dont talk about it a lot on the intertubes

[MadrasT]

61. +1

[RedLetterRev]

86. +2 in this household.

And I'll raise a CCW permit.

[HopeFor2006]

4. Yep, I work with a few of these folks...

My jaw dropped earlier this week when one of my coworkers said, "No one really knows what he is" when someone brought up the issue of his birth certificate. huh? Then another person said, "well, if he really is an American then where is his family? Where are his parents?" omg They were both shocked when I told them his mother died of breast cancer in her 50's. They hadn't heard that before. They live under rocks.

[tabatha]

5. ovarian cancer

[HopeFor2006]

6. Thank you for the correction

:hi:

[EffieBlack]

46. Pretty amazing, isn't it?

These sound like the people who keep insisting that they "just don't know enough about him" - despite his having written two books, been interviewed, profiled and probed relentlessly for two years.

These people are either too lazy for words, the most incurious people on earth, or just complete idiots who think that Obama must come to their house, have dinner with them and tell them his life story (and bring supporting documents with him) before they will feel like they know the least little thing about him.

[Occam Bandage]

7. ...

[gort]

23. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[ashling]

26. Damn! The whole reaon I clicked on this thread

was to say that!:rofl:

So you leave me no other option:

[RandomThoughts]

39. Not to be too off topic, but love that movie.

Its fun to see what characteristics of movie characters you can match with yourself.
I always wonder if I am more of a Dread Pirate Roberts, or a Inigo Montoya.

Done the metaphorical double poison thing(immune to australian based poisons). put a strangle hold on a giant, been through the swamps for sure, fire traps avoided them. Sorta dived into a sand pit quite a few times. No comment on visits to max, but have had a few chocolates. I been looking for the princess for years. Have stormed a castle or two, (metaphorically).

But I have always liked Inigo Montoya also.
Lets see, I have spent a long time learning, I try to not think about it being revenge, more trying, like everyone else, to just try and make things a bit better. But the revenge thing is always just under the surface. I aspire to be honest and loyal. I have only made one or two commitments in the last few years, and I believe I have remained loyal to them. I got the drinking issue, sometimes, a bit to much. Been back to the beginning a few times. Spent years seeking out opportunities to learn different fighting styles.

probably a few other things.

Great movie that is.

[gauguin57]

76. STOP SAYING THAT!

love that flick!

[Sheltiemama]

60. One of my favorite movie lines ever.

[yellowcanine]

8. Is Alan Keyes really a part of this or is that a Freeper fantasy? Somehow I can't see Keyes being

that ignorant. Surely he knows the law and the Constitution better than that?

[Bicoastal]

12. Yes he is, and no he doesn't.

[dixiegrrrrl]

54. Would that be the "old law and Constitution"

or the "new Bush " law and Constitution he supposedly knows?

[PatGund]

92. He is and he is.....

Alan Keyes, along with his AIP running mate, filed suit in California asking for a order to prohibit the California SoS from certifying the electors until proof of citizenship is given.

Much of Keyes lawsuit is cut and pasted from Philip Berg's lawsuit.

[babylonsister]

9. Here's a thought. Stop going there and poisoning your mind. nt

[silverojo]

17. Here's another thought

If your fragile little mind is so easily poisoned, you should be hiding under a rock.

Those of us with a sense of humor will continue checking out Freeperland from time to time, for some comic relief.

[The Wielding Truth]

11. That's why what McC/Palin,Limbaugh and Hannity have done

has been so harmful to our nation.

They have yelled fire in a crowded theater, and have caused an irrational panic. They should be held accountable for using panic and unreasonable fear to unleash uncontainable insurrection among those who now feel disenfranchised.

Instead of dropping their followers in the middle of nowhere, and splashing in their individual career pools they should be mending the broken souls they have left in their wake, and they should be correcting their corrupt messages. Those who totally believed and honored these fanatical users of honestly gullible patriots should be made to explain their deceptions to the scared and falsely impassioned believers.

They have lied and pushed stories that have just enough truth to lead even the rational off in unreasonable paranoia.

I think this can be called fraud. Hasn't this country seen enough of this from Bush and the greedy take over of our democracy by the too powerful corporate rulers?

Would you have any ideas on how to reassure them?

[Digit]

14. Well, I am sick and tired of hate radio and plan on writing letters

Clear Channel seems to have the monopoly of channels in my area which almost exclusively carry the hatemongers.
I thought that in my own small way, I would let them know that the majority of people supported Obama and if they wanted to increase revenue, they might want to include some programming that promoted a liberal message. (which is generally positive)
It might not do any good, as I am but ONE person, but I for one am sick of the hatemongers they promote on the air.
If I DON'T speak up, that is tantamount to accepting it.

[JJ]

28. pointless

Know what a loss leader is?
Talk radio is a loss leader to get at the real money from robbing the treasury.

[silverojo]

19. How to reassure them?

I'd suggest a combination of antidepressants and antipsychotics.

Obtained LEGALLY, of course. Leave the illegal stuff to Rush Limpballs.

[Caria]

13. Not just fear, but bloodthirst - scary stuff

Threats against his life rise
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20081115/Obama.Threats/

[silverojo]

15. You've summed it up perfectly

It's amazing how many of their threads and posts harp on this same theme.

4 years from now, we need to remind them of their insanity, and inform them that their conspiracy theories never amounted to anything.

I know it won't cure them of their delusions, but it'll sure be amusing to witness the results. :rofl:

[pansypoo53219]

16. they are afraid he is going to be FDR good. make ronny raygun look like shit.

not afaid otherwise. god forbid he make georgee look bad.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. They're pissed, because they really thought they had Far Right Fundy Nirvana in their grasp.

Particularly with a Flat Earth Creationist like Palin on the Presidential ticket.

Man, just a couple more Supreme Court Justices, and they would overturn Roe, then Griswold, and before you know it, they could start putting those loose women who take birth control pills into prison, along with the pesky gays... then, after criminalizing all non-procreative fucking, they could start in with "Biblical Law", doing shit like stoning people to death for "crimes", like "blasphemy".

Verily, America would be magically whisked back to a happy, sexless, white bread 1950s (or maybe 1350s?) reality that never existed. Public School science classes would be filled with the joyous truth of the 6,000 yr. old Earth and the good news of all the Dinosaurs on Noah's Ark. Oh, frabjous day.

And Obama fucked it all up. Unh!! Unnnh!!! So Close! SCOTUS interruptus, man. Verrrr-ry frustrating for these folks.

[psychmommy]

44. damn not scotus interruptus.

it happened during the bush administration. it was a horrible case. giant boils erupted on my skin-2 different kinds- alito analfissureitus and roberts rectalitcheus. it was painful and i never want to suffer like that again.






( do i have an anal fixation or what-hahahaha)

[charlyvi]

45. I went to school in the fifties.

Never heard a word of religion in school. Of course, didn't hear much about abortion, birth control or gays, either. Seems as though the degree to which individuals in society assert their civil rights is the same degree to which repressive social ideologies (eg, fundamentalist religions) push back, and push back hard.

[PassingFair]

72. Do you remember when they added the "under god" part to the pledge? n/t

[donco6]

87. Guess they wound up with BLUE balls. Too bad.

scotus interruptus . . . LOL!

[ClayZ]

20. They could not be more scared than I have been of bu$h/Cheney!

And I have a Chinese Cane with a sword inside! heh heh heh

[loudsue]

21. This kind of insanity has to be stopped.

The safety of our country depends on peaceful continuation of government and transfer of power. The freepers are getting themselves all lathered up for a lynch mob. As a matter of national security, someone needs to do something. Fox news needs to be brought down a notch or two. Or whoever the shit it is that is stirring this hate pot.

[Name removed]

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[bridgit]

24. First of all they're afraid of everything including their shadows...

They're never happy, EVER!! Forever mean, insufferably pissy and denying every minute of it; they live on their own hate & bile. Tuning into RW hate-radio lately has been way too predictable with the hate. Even listening to Limbaugh choking on his own words going even more insane than he is cause Obama's prevailing is the single greatest refutation of the shit-talk that's coming out his mouth for years, so yeah...

They're freaking-fucking-out-fearful...which is why I say fuck'em!! It's time for them to pay the ferryman

[carnie_sf]

25. Fear is the difference between liberals and conservatives

I think Bobby Kennedy best articulated it when he said "There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"

[badgerpup]

27. Anybody read "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long"?

One of the 'pearls of wisdom' readeth thusly...

"Never frighten a little man. He'll kill you.

There's an awful lot of 'little men' out there, is all I'm saying.
Don't underestimate them just because they're xenophobic, close-minded, and proud of being ignorant.

[dixiegrrrrl]

57. For reasons not worth going into, I never read that Heinlein.

Found link to the quotes..
damn, they are good.

[RedLetterRev]

88. Many years ago

Heinlein is a staple in this house.

[pamela]

29. You should see the Catholic Answers forum...

http://forums.catholic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=134

They make the freepers look almost human.

Check out this thread...
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=284915

How I plan to live for the next 4 years
Assuming Obama's get sworn in, this is how our family plans to live:

No more unecessary purchases of any kind;

No more going to the movies for my husband and kids (we don't want to support a liberal Hollywood that helped heavily finance Obama);

No more cable TV;

No daytime TV shows like Oprah;

No more liberal media of any kind (cancelling our subscription to the local newspaper, which is liberal);

Only get news from the Internet and conservative publications we can trust (I am blessed to have a local newspaper that is very conservative and is a good antidote to the other papers, which are liberal);

Homeschool our children;

Boycotting any and all local and national businesses that supported Obama in this election;

For Christmas we will give each other homemade gifts and gifts of homemade goodies;

We will start a barter system among friends to swap what we don't want for what we do;

We will also be sticking only with our own kind (by "kind" I mean those who are conservative and/or did not vote for Obama)

Before we hire anyone to do work on our home, the first question we will ask is: Which candidate did you or your company owner support in the last election?"

If anyone can think of anymore good ideas to add, go for it!

By the way there is a national movement to do the same thing we are doing, in case anyone wants to know more, PM me about it.

:crazy:

[FlaGranny]

32. You know, I really hate to say it

but I seem to remember a few similar posts on DU after 2004. Although, to be fair, GWB was much more deserving of fear. When he first started running for pres back in the late 90s I knew then his presidency would turn into a disaster. He outdid himself and his presidency turned out even worse than I imagined. Not only that, but my faith in the American people took a dive recently because between 25 to 30 percent of them still believe in that man - I was sure the percentage would be down into the teens by now.

I still remember how so many Americans repudiated the peace and prosperity of the 1990s and instead chose Bush. Now look what we have to deal with. Sickening.

[Cosmocat]

36. AND, to the freakshow THAT justifies hating Obama ...

I know this dillweed was a disaster before he was elected, too. The only think I regret is not knowing that Cheney was criminally insane.

It is funny in an exceptionally perverse way, though, that one of the primary justifications for the right wing nuts hating BO out of the gates is that us evil liberals never gave poor Georgie a chance. There is complete void between ANY level of responsiblity he has for being a mean spirited dimwit, and having brought in an adminstration of ideologically deranged psycophants and how mean people have been to him.

This actions, his never ending stream of failures do not matter one bit. That people have have said how bad he is, THAT justifies every ounce of vitriol that they are are going to spew.

[rvablue]

52. I hope you were using "criminally insane" euphamisticly....

b/c I think terms like that let people like Cheney off the hook...if he is "insane" then he isn't totally aware or responsible for his actions....that man knew every thing he was doing, the harm it would bring and he didn't care.

[Kukesa]

68. Granny, I remember that, too.

We were going to boycott companies that weren't Blue, we swore we'd never get involved in an election again, and vowed not to sympathize with anyone who voted for GWB and lost their job.

We licked our wounds for a few weeks and recovered.

[rvablue]

51. This is almost a carbon copy of something I saw a Jewish freeper post n/t

[quiet.american]

63. It will be wonderful that this kind of folk will be out of sight in their caves for 8 years!

YAY!

:rofl:

:bounce: :thumbsup: :kick: :fistbump: :headbang: :woohoo: :applause:

[ellie]

64. Sure they will

[CANDO]

71. Oh hell! Please do sequester yourselves!

Do whatever pleases your little hateful souls, just for christ's sake stay as far away as possible from our government!

[NYC Liberal]

85. But will they pay their taxes?

Or are they too cowardly to actually take a stand and risk going to jail? See because they can do all of those things, but if they pay their taxes they're still FUNDING the government they supposedly hate.

All of those things won't do a damn thing to impact the federal government.

[Milspec]

97. I'v seen the same post

on freeperland

[crispini]

30. Is there any way we can administer Xanax through the web to them?

These people scare me. That much irrationality can't be healthy.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

31. You forgot: The Savage Weiner hints that he killed his grandmother to cover the whole thing up

Yes, Michael "Savage" Weiner really is that stupid:

"SAVAGE: Well, we don't even know where Obama was born. His grandmother died the night before the election. There's a lot of questions around this character that the media won't answer. Let's start with what country he's from. Why was the birth certificate never produced? Why in the world did he take time off from the campaign to visit the grandmother who then suddenly and suspiciously died virtually the night before the election? Tell me about that."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200811140011?f=h_clips

[rasputin1952]

34. I have listened to some of Weiner's crap, but I can take only about

5 min's before I become unhinged. The creep is by far the worst on-air "personality" out there.

He lives for self loathing and feeds off hate and division. He has a PhD in ethnomedicine... ( :shrug: ), something that can perhaps be beneficial from a medical standpoint, but his educational roots are in sociology. One would think he'd be little more understanding, considering his background, but he is one serious steaming vat of crap.

All things considered, he needs to be tarred and feathered, driven out of the country on a rail and ridiculed at every opportunity. He's got a "face made for radio", and I'm glad it is so easy to change stations when he pops up.

[carnie_sf]

48. I still can't believe

that guy was once a friend of Allen Ginsberg.

[Milspec]

83. Sad but follow

the money.

[onefreespiritedchick]

55. OMG, I can't believe these people are allowed on the air

To spew such hateful crap.

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[Perky]

35. Heavily aremed? They need to be heaveily sedated.

[Starry Messenger]

37. They honestly believe he is a Soviet sleeper agent.

It's like reading survivalist fan fiction.

[DRoseDARs]

38. Is it wrong that I secretly (well, not so much now) wish their concerns WERE true?

I mean gawd, how awesome would it be to see their heads collectively explode in a blazing flash of irony?

[RandomThoughts]

40. ROFL

I can feel ya their, sometimes the sound is facinating, pop pop pop. LOL
However sometimes it takes a head to explode for a person to make it out of their smaller world.

[DRoseDARs]

62. And it's not like it would be all bloody and shit. They'd all go out in a poof of glitter...

...because that would be ironic. ;)

[OHDEM]

41. They would be funny, if they weren't just disturbing.

I'm really sad that the right has stirred up irrational fear. How far must this go before someone is held accountable? We've already seen this incitement turned into violence when the Democratic Party leader in AR was assassinated and a Unitarian Church was attacked. I see the same irrational attacks and threats on message boards. I debunk them with facts when possible, but they've been conditioned to trust no sources. (Easier to control them that way!) I wish that someone would sit down with idiots like Hannity and Limbaugh and explain the history of violence in this nation and the consequenses of incitement like theirs.

Did you see Worst Persons yesterday? The worst was a newspaper and the author of a letter to the editor that was sounding the alarm on Obama's plan for a civilian army. (Blown WAY out of proportion, not just by right-wing media, but even by a disgusting congressman from Georgia.) I'm tired of terrorist threats from these people!!

Maybe we should begin a letter writing campaign to newspapers and media explaining, respectfully, that the lies and threats directed at liberals in general and the President-elect in particular are dangerous and unAmerican.

[RedLetterRev]

89. That meme is going around a lot more than you think

I've seen it surface it my mailbox. Jackbooted thugs, coming into your house to take your guns and all.

They are seriously unhinged, not in any reality attached to planet earth. There's no way to get a letter into their alternate universe and they're perfectly happy being miserable there. M$M had a huge hand in creating freeperdom. They've got a willing audience their advertisers love hooked into the batshit craziness. Do you think for an instant they're going to clean that mess up?

Didn't think so.

[juno jones]

42. Ok

It all makes sense.

Sometimes when I come to work, the guys will be listening to 'Coast to Coast am' (I'm a baker on graveyard shift right now).Tonight, as I came on shift, some guy from CA (Sacramento) called in and asked Noory and his guest - who had just been sympathetically discussing Obama and the looming financial situation- something to the effect of "Well, of course you know that Obama is a communist alien." Noory replies, "No, the president-elect is not an alien." Caller: "Well he must be an alien, he's a communist." Noory "What makes you think aliens are communist?" I could tell he was taken aback, the caller was cut off quickly.

Even their conspiracy theories have absolutely no basis in reality.

[cyndensco]

43. I shuddered when I saw the footage of a gun dealer on The Daily Show.

He said gun purchases in his shop increased in response to Y2K, 9/11, and Katrina, but nothing like the spike he has seen since Obama's election.

Why are these people arming themselves? Do they think their arsenals will be grandfathered when Obama overturns the 2nd Amendment:eyes:, anticipate a civil war, or worse?

Just when it feels real good to be an American, we are reminded these assholes are still out there.

[slackmaster]

66. They're arming themselves because they are genuinely afraid of a renewed "assault weapons" ban

Our Democratic Party leadership made a decision, IMO a very bad one, to leave renewing the AWB a plank in the platform. Barack Obama could have averted some of the panic buying by making a definitive statement that he would not sign any new federal gun ban legislation. Either he would sign it, or he wouldn't but didn't consider it enough of a priority to make such a declaration before the election.

The run on firearms is an unintended consequence of having a history of attempting to restrict ownership and ban one type of firearm or another.

It will run out of steam eventually. No harm will come of it.

[Kukesa]

69. Down here in SW Ohio the gun shows and dealers are

doing a booming business. There was a show in Dayton last weekend and there's currently one in Cinci. The lines are long and everyone seems to have money to arm themselves.

Guess that's one industry we won't have to bail out.

[slackmaster]

81. Firearms are almost always discretionary purchases

The money people are spending on guns and ammo is money that is NOT being spent eating out or travelling, attending sporting events, or being donated to charity.

Another unintended consequence of our party's stated policy.

OTOH maybe some good will come of people giving less to their churches.

[JeanGrey]

84. They are afraid of more restrictive gun laws. It is quite

simple, really.

[benEzra]

91. Gun owners are worried about another "assault weapons" ban...

tens of millions of us got burned, badly, by the 1994 Feinstein idiocy, and Biden is a huge proponent of bringing it back, and worse.

There is a small but nonzero chance that another ban might actually be passed, so a lot of people who wanted a small-caliber rifle with modern styling but had put it off for financial reasons, are now scraping together their pennies and buying them now. Most drafts of a ban would also outlaw replacement magazines and spare parts.

There are also concerns about ammunition availability, since a significant portion of the ammunition used by U.S. shooters comes from overseas (primarily Russia and eastern Europe), and could be banned by executive order.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

47. They are honestly afraid of all blacks. n/t

[madamesilverspurs]

49. I knows what I knows,

and nothing you can say will change my mind. I gots my eyes slammed shut and my fingers sticked in my ears, while I jumps up and down screaming my head off. That way I can honestly say that I haven't seen or heard anything to refute what I knows. Ain't I just the cleverest thang?!

[Avalux]

50. Here's what else they believe -

that Obama will bring about the end times.

A friend of one of my Dad's hunting buddies has spent over 5K on guns and ammunition because he just knows the end of the world is coming and Obama is going to make it happen.

Craziness.

[Medusa]

67. But I thought they were all in a hurry to meet Jesus?

So what's the problem?

[rvablue]

53. What Ive found staggering is how in the matter of just a few months

they completely turned on Bush.

I think it's grounds for getting canned over there now if you say something nice about the guy.

And there is not one hint of gee, maybe we were wrong about that guy, or any type of self-analysis as to why they blindly followed and defended him after every failed policy, action, etc.

Of course, we're a couple of months out from the inauguration and it's already "Obama's fault."

[mwb970]

79. I hear a lot about the "Obama recession" from the right-wingers.

How crazy is that?

[onefreespiritedchick]

56. Freepers have to be some of the most ignorant people out there

Seriously, who else could believe such absurdity?

[yardwork]

58. Some of them have reason to be scared. They've made a lot of money over the past eight years.

Their gravy train has left the station. Free Republic wouldn't even exist if it hadn't been funded bushco. It began during the Clinton witchhunt years and made considerable hay during Karl Rove's ascendancy.

The people whose values are centered on acquiring wealth and power have every reason to be scared.

[Sheltiemama]

59. "Tyronne Hitler"

That cracks me up.

[Hieronymus]

65. I found out from wingnut radio today that Obama is the love child

of Malcolm X. Yes, that's one of the latest things they're trying to float.

[Norrin Radd]

70. They are craven racists.

[Indi Guy]

75. Is there any other kind??? n/t

[Douglas Carpenter]

73. considering how batshit CRAZY those people got over Bill Clinton -

so CRAZY that they were determined to drive him from power by any means necessary --

President-Elect Obama is far, far scarier to them. They had convinced themselves that Clinton was some sort of seedy underworld figure. They are convinced or have convinced themselves that the President-Elect is a foreign-born, illegal-alien Manchurian candidate for Communist and Fundamentalist-Muslim terrorist. Never mind that their accusations are contradictory and beyond absurdity.

If someone really does believe this alternative-universe craziness. And I think a fair number of them really do. Then the election of Barack Obama is the moral equivalent of "Red Dawn" which makes them the moral equivalent of the local boys who repelled the foreign invaders.

[windy252]

74. Reply

To an extent, I kind of agree with the poster above. A thought occurred to me, however. I wonder if they might also be scared because they know Obama's more prepard for their antics than frmr President Clinton was. Not that it helps, but I figured out in late 2003 that my decision for W was a bad one and campaigned for Kerry in MO in '04. Bush II managed to make me miss Clinton, though and I always thought the impeachment was a little ridiculous.

[gauguin57]

77. The conspiracy would have to include the FBI, the CIA, the Treasury Dept, the NSA, etc. etc.

(treasury dept. because of the secret service) ... if the Freepers don't realize there is no way in hell Obama wasn't vetted beyond all vetting by most or all of those governmental institutions (charged with protecting our country, from within and without), starting when he became a serious candidate ... well, if they don't understand that, then they are so monstrously ignorant as to be beyond help!

If the FBI has a damned 20-year file on David Halberstam, for god's sake, they probably have Obama's toejam DNA in a jar somewhere. Seriously. Do Freepers really believe this guy wasn't checked out? A guy named Barack Hussein Obama, running for president? Lordy, Lordy, the pinheads.

[gauguin57]

78. And furthermore ... hell, I could have made something up about McCain and DEMANDED that he prove me

wrong ...

But hey, the burden of proof would be on ME for making up something ridiculous. I could say McCain was born in Paris, France, with a baby beret put on his head in his incubator. And then say, "J'accuse, Jean McCain! ... you MUST produce documents to prove that the crap I just made up is made-up crap!" And John McCain would not have ANY OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER to produce one goddamned thing. Because I made it up.

Same goes for the non-citizen crap. It's a bunch of made-up crap, and the burden of proof is on the prevaricators. And they ain't got a thing, because they made it up.

[thesquanderer]

80. such foresight

re: "According to them, Barack Obama spent three decades of his life hushing up or paying off hundreds of people and forging thousands of documents"

--- because they knew that, 3 decades later, he'd be running for President.

[tigereye]

82. hmmm

:boring:



as long as these nutz are kept away from him, I don't care. Their irrationality is just sad.

[cooolandrew]

93. It's Alex Jones putting out some of the worst of it.

[obiwan]

95. This is what I say to those people...

He's our fairly elected next president. GET OVER IT!

[obiwan]

96. Free Republic proves my theory...

When two dumb people fuck, they produce another dumb person. Pure genetics.

So what DU'ers need to do is produce more intelligent people by fucking more.

Wait... that will make an overpopulated world. Rebooting...