Don't want Hillary as Sec. of State.

[Cruzan]

Want her to just go away.

[vanderBeth]

1. ...

:popcorn:

[crispini]

8. Move over

:popcorn:

[vanderBeth]

14. We're going to need more before this is locked.

[RichGirl]

21. WE???

Be sure to let Obama know that we will need more!! LOL!! Sheesh...what an ego. It's not your decision!!!

[vanderBeth]

34. WTF?

[acmavm]

64. More, as in MORE FRIGGING POPCORN.

[cliffordu]

67. Sure. I'll have some more popcorn.....

:popcorn:

[Cattledog]

2. She's here to stay so get over it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Don't Feed The Trolls

DSB

[Froward69]

56. Second!!!

all in favor??? :nuke:

[LaurenG]

4. You may have to accept it though.

You're going to have to figure out a way to trust that Obama knows what he's doing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Why Dignify A Irrational Post With A Rational One?

Now that I'm hooked I will say that I woul bet my errr,,,,,, that Hillary Clinton did more for the Democratic party and to elect Democrats than the original poster... I will go on to say that I would bet the original poster hasn't done one solitary thing to help Democrats with the possible exception of voting...

[LaurenG]

9. ***

I don't understand the reasons people want to stay all upset over things they have no control over.

I do know that I am very happy that we no longer have to live under an idiot president and we can breathe a sigh of relief that if nothing else we now can look forward to a different world - thank goodness.

This one's for the OP from Obama ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkHTsc9PU2A

[JVS]

6. Could you try doing the post as a lolcat?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. What's A locat?

I just don't see the utility of picking open old scabs...It makes me think the only reason it is done to disrupt and the motives of the poster are highly suspect...

Maybe we should resurrect the enmity between the Dean and Clark folks?


:sarcasm:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. What's A locat?

I just don't see the utility of picking open old scabs...It makes me think the only reason it is done to disrupt and the motives of the poster are highly suspect...

Maybe we should resurrect the enmity between the Dean and Clark folks?


:sarcasm:

[SurfingAtWork]

118. Here is the answer to your question

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

[Double T]

7. I'd like bitter, short sighted people that hold grudges to go away, but it ain't going to happen.

HRC and her spouse would make damn good Secretaries of State.

[RoyGBiv]

12. Sucks to be you ...

[teknomanzer]

13. I was not really a Hillary supporter...

I wanted change - and I felt that Obama was going to be the one to bring it. That said, I still think the world of Hillary (Though Bill has dropped a few notches) She fought hard in the primaries as I would have expected her to do. Did she and Bill skirt the line - probably. But that is how politics can be sometimes. But when the time came she pulled for our man and she did so with great enthusiasm. She still represents 90% or more of what I believe in as a Democrat. I DO NOT want her to go away. As a Obama himself said, "Hillary Rocks." I just want to see her in a position to do what she can to improve this country, whether it be as Senator or Secretary of State or some other position - so be it.

She isn't going anywhere so suck it up and drive on.


Edited to add - Now if you ask me about Lieberman that is a different story.

[lapfog_1]

15. I'm not crazy about her being Sec State either.

For many reasons.

But I certainly don't want to see her "go away". I have no problems with her being the junior Senator from New York, and, as far as I can tell right now, would actually like to see her take a turn as Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully she could do a better job than the current one.

If she runs again for President in 2016, and I'm still alive, then we'll see. Perhaps she will seem more in tune with my perspective then, perhaps not.

If Obama wants her to be SecState, and she wants the job, I will hope for the best for both of them.

I hope he doesn't decide to turn the current Democratic Senate caucus into his cabinet.

(and if he offers a cabinet post to any of Lieberman, McCain, or Palin... I will start asking for my money back from his campaign!)

[RC]

16. A-Men! Hillary showed her true colors during the primary.

She is also DLC and we all know how wonderful they have been to Progressives in this country. :sarcasm:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Hmmmm

If you have a DLCer as Chief Of Staff and the Chief Of Staff controls and guides the president's agenda why can't you have a DLCer at State?

It seems you are singling out one person to be ostracized and not the other

[kikiek]

26. Not to mention that it has been widely reported that Obama will

be governing from the center. Which is no big surprise anyways. Personally I think it is where the President needs to be for continued support. Hillary is by far the best candidate for SOS. If she wants it. I suspect she might not.

[Stuckinthebush]

18. She'd be a good SOS

And, she'd be working for Obama.

I have absolutely no problem with it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I'm Not Pushing Her Or Anybody For Any Position

But it's embarrassing and disappointing to be touted for a job and not get it regardless if the job is Sec Of State or foreman at the loading dock...

[RichGirl]

20. How quickly you forget th 18 million who wanted her as president.

We all (mostly) came over to elect Obama. Time for you to do some compromising.

And, by the way, we elect president, we do not elect Secretary of State. When you elect your president you trust his decisions. Or you deal with it.

[Blarch]

22. WTF ?

"We all (mostly) came over to elect Obama"

Came over from where ? ...They are in the same party. Jeeeesh. Thanks for your support :think:

[cali]

23. tough shit for you and all whiny babies. YOU don't get to choose

who's in the cabinet.

[yourguide]

29. and tough shit

to all the whiney babies on this board that cant grasp that some dems simply dont like Hillary.

[cali]

37. So the fuck what if some people don't like Hillary? YOU and your whiny cohorts

don't have any say whatsofuckingever over who President Obama chooses for his cabinet or other appointments.

[yourguide]

39. Hey cali

Before you lump me in with YOUR whiney cohorts perhaps you should go back and check my posts since the primaries.

Here's a news flash, BEFORE the primaries began HRC had the highest unfavorable ratings of ANYONE running. it was at 50% before the primaries and at 54% unfavorable in April.

Please grasp that there are MANY dems that dont like her and this is a damn political discussion board and I am sick of the way people who DONT like her are being bullied on this board.

Just like there are many dems that dont care for Reid or Pelosi or LIEberman (LIEberman who caucuses and votes with the dems 90% of the time) there are some dems that didnt like her before the primaries, some that didnt like her during the primaries, and some that dont like her after the primaries.

GUESS WHAT? HRC is and always has been a polarizing figure and yes there are some dems that dont like her and we can discuss right here on this board all of the reasons some dont want her as SOS.

[Metric System]

59. Her favorability among Dems is in the 80s. Her favorability among the public was up to 52% in Sept.

[yourguide]

69. which means

her unfavorables were 48%, ridiculously high. and it means 1 in 5 dems view her unfavorably. Assuming 40 mil of the 66 mil who voted for Obama were dems it means 8 million dems disapprove of her right now.

[bvar22]

85. No. They don't have any influence over Obama. Neither do you.

Like you, they have the exact same right to post their opinion at DU.


Cheers!

[Metric System]

58. Yeah, like, 15% or so. The rest of us like her fine.

[yourguide]

70. 20%

Means 1 in 5 dems view her unfavorably. Assuming 40 mil of the 66 mil who voted for Obama were dems it means 8 million dems disapprove of her right now.

[Metric System]

75. Except you're citing a poll from months ago.

[yourguide]

80. Citing a poll released today

80% favorable amoung dems.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

[Beacool]

114. So, some Democrats don't like Obama and he's still our president?

That's life........

:shrug:

[Name removed]

24. Deleted message

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[moriah]

25. Whoever Obama chooses will be right, but I would prefer Richardson.

I love my Hillary, and I voted for her in the primary. But Richardson has more diplomatic experience, so he would be a better choice IMHO.

[pecwae]

27. Feeling is mutual.

[cboy4]

28. I just love reading these scholarly OP's that say something

dumb without listing all of the dumb reasons for the dumb OP. :eyes:

Get over it. She's a Democrat and she's going to be around for a long time.

[sufrommich]

30. Maybe it's "Talk like a caveman day"

"Me no want her,me no happy"

[NoPasaran]

115. I never thought I would see the day

That cavemen's syntax would be mocked on a "progressive" website.

[yourguide]

32. Cboy

Just because she's a democrat it doesnt mean it immediately commands respect and admiration.

There are people on this board that dont care for Lieberman, Reid, and Pelosi. Many on this board (including me) despise Lieberman but he caucuses with the dems and votes with the dems 90% of the time.

Just because someone has a D in front of his or her name doesnt mean it commands respect. Many have issue with the way she ran the primaries and prior to that her negatives were over 50. They hit 54% in April. Not all of those who viewed her unfavorably were republicans or independents.

Again, plain and simple, there are some Dems who just dont like her.

[cboy4]

36. WTF!?! You're comparing her to Lieberman now?

How can you even mention that man's name in the same company as Senator Clinton?

Listen, I understand that all Democrats are not beloved equally, or even beloved period.

But too many people who supported Obama from the beginning cannot get over the primaries, when it's clear the President-Elect has.

She would be an excellent SOS, which is why the person I voted for has offered her the job.

But there are far too many people who can't get over the primaries

[yourguide]

38. Oh lord

Oh stop, do you realize how foolish you sound? This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. The Clinton loyalists are so blinded by their loyalty that they dont grasp that yes she can be lumped in with Reid, Pelosi, & Liberman based on her unfavorability ratings. I was giving examples of some Dems that other dems dont like.

And this has nothing to do with the primaries, what you dont grasp is she had the highest negatives, over 50%, of any candidate in the race this year, and that was going INTO the race.

In April her unfavorable ratings hit 54%, do you grasp that? Those werent all Republicans with unfavorable views. The Rethug base is what 35%? Dem base about the same?

Just based off the election numbers Obama won 53%, McCain won 46%...Lets assume EVERYONE voting for McCain had an unfavorable view of HRC, based on the 54% number that means an additional 8% of the electorate who didnt vote for McCain still had unfavorable views of HRC, or 15% of those voting for Obama.

It's the loyalists that need to see reality here, she is and always has been a polarizing figure, and yes there are some dems that dont like her, and didnt like her before the primaries.

[cboy4]

43. The people who have issues are the ones who cannot ..

I repeat .. get over the primaries.

And believe me, it has everything to do with the primaries.

Obama wins, and that's still not enough for *some* Obama fans (from the primaries), who wanted to see her move to another country.

And there is absolutely not comparison between Hillary ... who campaigned and gave amazing speeches in support of Obama, as did her husband .. and Joe Lieberman, who supported McCain, supports the war, spoke at the Republic Convention.

I mean, if you're going to present an argument, try not to make it so outlandish that people like myself discount it from the start.

You're all worked up about Hillary when the Democrats are in control of everything for the next four years.

And that's beyond ridiculous.

You saying she's a polarizing figure does not make it true.

[yourguide]

45. It seems to me it's you who cant get over the primaries.

I don't say she's a polarizing figure, the damn polls do and she always has been.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/hillary_clinton_favorableunfav.php




48% unfavorable: http://www.gallup.com/poll/28477/Gallup-Poll-Review-Karl-Roves-Assertions-About-Hillary-Clinton.aspx

54% unfavorable April 2008: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4668032&page=1


Now get your head wrapped around that. Those numbers are from Pollster over 13 year period through 2007.

Get friggin over it, look at the numbers and wrap your brain around the fact that some dems dont like her.


And I would argue that yes, some of her actions were just as bad as Lieberman during the primaries...

"He's not a muslim, as far as I know"

Her camp pushing the turban photo

"I have the experience to be president, John McCain has the experience to be president, all Obama has is a speech from 2002"

And the 3am ad.


I didnt care for her before the primaries. I really disliked her during the primaries. and am now back to my pre primary opinion.

Again, there are some dems that just dont like her and havent liked her. Doesnt mean we should be bullied by the loyalists and zealots who do.

[cboy4]

48. Gee, I had absolutely no idea you didn't like her during the

primaries.

Shocking I'm telling ya.

I never would have noticed the bias.

What a phony. "Now I am back to my pre primary opinion." :spray:

Uh huh .. and George Bush is Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Please, I'd have more respect for you if you said you loathe the woman.

At least you wouldn't be shoveling the bullshit.

[yourguide]

49. And I'd have more respect for you

If you'd actually read my posts since the primaries. I havent posted anything hateful about the woman but apparently you are too lazy to look.

Unless you consider posting pollster polls showing how polarizing she is as some sort of loatheful, hateful, FACTS perhaps you can explain to me how those polls between 1995 and 2007 show she's not polarizing?

Again, she was at 50% unfavorable prior to the primaries, grasp the fact that there are some dems who simply dont like her. Or keep drinking your own kool aid. :eyes:

And perhaps you could be a tad more subtle about your own bias and consider opinion from other dems who dont like her. Just like we discuss on this board those who don't like Lieberman, Reid, and Pelosi...

[PBS Poll-435]

57. LOL.. Approval ratings? Are you serious?

You want Obama to nominate Cabinet members based on polls from April?

Is that really the crux of your argument?

Really?


Just for fun, please see this New York SurveyUSA poll from October.

Hillary Clinton

Approve - 68%
Disapprove - 30%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=80639082-bdb3-4536-91ae-5e3474a5f9da


Now lets look at March.

Hillary Clinton

Approve - 56%
Disapprove - 42%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=ac63aa78-077d-4adb-9ce9-f63572f7b237


But I can totally see why you would want to use numbers from 6 months ago to support your point.

:rofl:




And this was released yesterday from Gallup. It shows that after the primaries were over, Hillary's approval numbers jumped back up to 56% nationally.

"Clinton in Cabinet Would Likely Please Base"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

[yourguide]

63. No no no...

You have lost the plot. I am not throwing poll numbers up to suggest she should or should not be SOS.

The poll numbers I am throwing up are to simply defend other Dems that dont like her. Dems who dont support HRC in general on this board are getting blasted by the HRC zealots who refuse to grasp the facts that she has always had high negatives and yes that there are dems that didnt like her as first lady (having far higher negatives than Laura Bush), dems that didnt like her before the primaries, during the primaries, and after the primaries. 42% disapproval rating is pretty high in general. There appears to be little room on this board with some posters for others to have a differing view on HRC. Just like there are some dems that dont like reid, pelosi, and especially Lieberman, there are some Dems that dont like HRC.

As a matter of fact, thanks for giving me that recent Gallup poll, it shows just based on dems alone only 80% have a favorable opinion of her right now which means 1 in 5 dems dont view her favorably. However some posters dont want to grasp that all dems dont worship the ground she walks on.

Not sure how a NY state poll really reflect the national temperature either if that was your point.

Perhaps you could learn to read? :eyes:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[PBS Poll-435]

72. LOL....Right...

You wanted to imply that approval/disapproval numbers from April 2008 and August of 2007 were somehow representative of how the numbers would look in November of 2008.

And I posted the Survey USA poll to show that the movement in the nationwide Gallup poll and the movement in the NY Senate poll were similar.


Approval went up 12 points in NY and 8 points nationally.

Disapproval went down 12 points in NY and 5 points nationally.




Oh...and I attacked your argument, you attacked me personally with the whole "Perhaps you could learn to read?" quip.

[yourguide]

78. The gallup poll shows 1 in 5 dems disapprove

which means 1 in 5 on this board and 1 in 5 dems in general disapprove.

If her favorables were 52% then her unfavorables were 48%, ridiculously high. If 1 in 5 dems view her unfavorably, assuming 40 mil of the 66 mil who voted for Obama were dems it means 8 million dems disapprove of her right now.

Sorry, I am tired of the HRC zealots on this board not recognizing that there are MANY dems who dont like HRC and this is not a new thing.

Posting those numbers starting from her years as first lady clearly show how polarizing a figure she's become, especially compared to favorability ratings of Laura Bush.



My point is that there isnt just a handful of dems that dont view her in the same manner as those who hold her on a pedistal, 20% of dems dont like her and she's ALWAYS been polarizing as reflected by her high negatives.

[Metric System]

61. She IS NOT polarizing among Democrats. Unless you consider a favorability rating in the 80s bad.

Frankly the fact that many Rethugs don't like her make me like her even more. Why do you take your cues from Rethugs in deciding which Democrat to like?

[yourguide]

68. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

1 in 5 dems view her unfavorably.

Which could translate into 20% of the posters on this board.

And you're a bit daft if you think a 54% unfavorable rating in April was all Rethugs.

You're also a bit daft if you think a 50% unfavorable rating was all rethugs.

again, 1 in 5 dems do not have a favorable opinion of her.

lets assume 40 million of the 66 million people who voted for Obama are dems, 1 in 5 or 8 million dems disapprove of HRC, are we alllllllllllll taking our cues from the rethugs? :eyes:

[PBS Poll-435]

73. And that poll was before the convention....

I am sure her numbers are even better now.

Quite a few people were sour, or even "bitter" about Hillary before the convention, but most eventually came around, I believe.

[yourguide]

79. No

this poll was released today showing her with 80% favorable with dems:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

[PBS Poll-435]

87. Watch the video. Look in the lower right-hand corner.

Taken in August. Before the convention.

[bvar22]

89. Does that include me? (Can't get over the Primaries?)

I disliked Hillary BEFORE the Primaries.

[Metric System]

60. Obviously you didn't see the CBS exit poll pitting Hillary against McCain.

[yourguide]

71. Obviously you arent referncing the polling data from gallup

showing 48% unfavorable, which is ridiculously high. As well as 1 in 5 dems viewing her unfavorably. Assuming 40 mil of the 66 mil who voted for Obama were dems it means 8 million dems disapprove of her right now.

[PBS Poll-435]

74. 45% unfavorable, not 48% and the poll was taken before the Denver convention. nt

[yourguide]

82. Released today

and my apologies...44% negative which is still very high. 80% approval from Dems which means 1 in 5 disapprove.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

[PBS Poll-435]

84. That poll is from August. The analysis of that poll was released today. nt.

[yourguide]

88. Most recent polling info I have...

again, her negatives have always been high, since she was first lady...

dont know what to tell you, she conceeded in June...those numbers are pretty high over 2 months later.

[Beacool]

119. I saw an interesting blurb in yesterday's NY Post.

It appears that according to exit polls, Hillary would have won against McCain by 52% to 41%, 7% points higher than Obama. Also, 16% of McCain's voters would have switched to Hillary.

Heck, I don't give a rat's tail end about polls, but if people insist on brandishing them around as a means to bash Hillary then let's bring all of them out.

:eyes:

[Metric System]

77. Yeah, so the vast majority of Dems like her. What's your point?

[yourguide]

83. 80% approve and 20% disapprove.

That is not some tiny handful of dems, that is 20%. Again, assuming 40 million of the 66 million who voted for Obama were dems. That's 8 million dems that dont approve.

Fail.

[PBS Poll-435]

86. Poll was taken before the convention.

And 4 out of 5 is not bad. :-)

[yourguide]

90. They werent polling convention goers

And I agree, 4 out of 5 aint bad. :)

I just want people to grasp that there are dems and always have been dems that havent liked her and that her negatives, even as first lady, have always been unusually high.

[PBS Poll-435]

91. Only because the "Don't Know/Unfamiliar" numbers with Clinton are so low.

17% don't have an opinion of Laura Bush.

Hillary Clinton? 3%.

[yourguide]

97. Say you move 17% to disapprove

Still lower than HRCs consistant unfavorable numbers as first lady...same if you go back to 2002 and 2004.

[PBS Poll-435]

98. Do you think that the public, as a whole, has a more favorable or less favorable

Opinion of Hillary Clinton today or 2 years ago.

[yourguide]

100. Guessing around flat

I think she's come down back to the high end of her base level which fluctuates between 42% and 46%.

Based on that pollster graph, in 2006 she was around 44%,



She spiked as high as 54% unfavorable in April 2008 and was at 44% in August. Just bear in mind she never spiked as high as 54% while first lady, she made it as high as 48% in 1996.

[mkultra]

44. yeah, i despise lieberman

And i feel perfectly justified in doing so.

[yourguide]

46. me too :-)

[mkultra]

47. that comparison is not a very good one

Lieberman is disliked for his bad policy stance and republican campaigning. His personality seems fine enough though.

Hillary's policies are still good, its just her use of republican wedge issue campaigning techniques that makes her unliked.

One is forgivable, the other is not.

[yourguide]

50. My point was loose

based simply on favorables and unfavorables in the polls.

I despise LIEberman but he caucuses with the dems and votes with the dems 90% of the time.

Just throwing it out there.

[mkultra]

51. sure, frankly, hes not really a dem anymore

[yourguide]

52. I concur

but sadly he's still on our team (although I hope we trade him to the other team).

It was a point based on the fact that there are opposing opinions on some dems withing the dem party, even before this election cycle there were opposing opinions on LIEberman. HRC has been particularly polarizing since she became 1st lady. Found this handy dandy recap from pollster:

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/hillary_clinton_favorableunfav.php


I am just finding those who disagree about HRC for SOS are really getting attacked by the HRC zealots.

[Metric System]

62. "HRC zealots." Gee thanks.

[mkultra]

110. i guess this means your one of them

Unless you just think that there are no HRC zealot supporters on this board.

[Beacool]

121. As opposed to Obama zealots?

:shrug:

[Beacool]

116. You must not travel much,

but as someone coming from a diplomatic family, let me tell you that both Clintons are viewed very favorably overseas.

:eyes:

[BeyondGeography]

31. If she can get by the confirmation hearings without being inundated by questions about Bill

I'm fine with it as I think she'll do a good job and she's an inspired choice in many ways. But if someone in Congress decides to make a stink about Bill's commercial entanglements and how they might impact her priorities, we're back in Clinton Hell and Barack's presidency takes a huge hit.

[DU GrovelBot]

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[SwampG8r]

42. and here comes grovelbot trying to threadjack

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. Too Bad. It Ain't Up To You.

[bridgit]

40. a penny for you thoughts...

[FatherTime1408]

41. I like Hill for Sec of State, but I don't see it happening.

[Life Long Dem]

53. Who brought Hillary here? Obama supporters didn't.

Who is saying Obama supporters are throwing hate at Hillary. It's not Obama supporters saying that.

So why was this name floated out there? And since when did Obama supporters believe the news media for one yet alone believe the media through an anonymous source about Hillary?

And why would Obama supporters throw hate at Hillary when we were getting along so good before this rumor was purposely floated out there to have another PUMA style wedge out there to divide the party. Don't forget we are fighting big media and big corporations.

[krispos42]

54. I don't either, but not for that reason

I don't want Obama gutting the Senate to fill out his Cabinet.

Both the President and the Veep are sitting Senators who will have to resign to take their new elected offices. I think that's plenty of loss for the beginning of a new session.


We need the experienced senators in the Senate. I don't want Webb to be SecDef, or Clinton or Kerry to be SecState, or whatever.

There are plenty of other qualified, smart, savvy Democrats out there for these kinds of jobs that aer NOT sitting US Senators. Former senators, former governors, whatever. Richardson for SecState, for example, would be a good choice.

[JVS]

76. Off topic: I have seen many pictures that look like your sig-pic. What is that kind of picture...

called and is there some kind of generator like with lolcats where I can make one?

[krispos42]

93. Why, yes, there is a generator for it

http://www.hetemeel.com/index.php?page=dynamicimages


You want the "Ha ha!" link...


Enjoy!

[JVS]

94. thanks

[Milo_Bloom]

55. There are a ton of people I would like to see leave...

including Obama's vice president, but it ain't gonna happen, so you might as well just accept them and hope they do a better job in an Obama administration than they have done in the Senate.

[Whisp]

65. don't worry, she can't get it. she has to answer questions

and she can't.

so she'll spin it as a refusal on her part rather than a failure to pass.

[Carolina]

66. Ditto

I feel your pain. And I don't give a rat's ass about being flamed.

[Autumn]

81. Lot of people I want

to just go away. Too bad we don't always get what we want.

[Tigress DEM]

92. You will probably get the first wish. The second? Not really practical.

[11 Bravo]

95. And as soon as you have any say in the matter, someone may actually give a fuck about what you want.

(Although probably not even then.)

[Beacool]

96. A slight suggestion.............

Why don't YOU go away? Oh, and please take with you the rest of the bitter folks.

:P

[Catherine Vincent]

99. Folks, this is flamebait.

Hit and run flamebait.

[Chisox08]

101. I don't want her as Sec. of State either

but i think that she would serve this country better as Senate Majority leader.

[Better Believe It]

102. I Didn't Vote For Clinton Third Term Retreads .... I Voted For Change

And yet look at all of these Clinton retreads getting serving on President-Elect Obama's transition team or being suggested for Cabinet posts!

[mollymongold]

104. waaaah waaaaah waaaaaah

[Skwmom]

103. I voted for change, not a third Clinton Term, not a Co-Presidency.

So what do you think?

[mollymongold]

105. how the fuck will that make it a co-presidency?

[Better Believe It]

106. It Wouldn't .... Clintonites Would Be In Charge

[mollymongold]

107. OHNOEZ! NOT THOSE CLINTONITES!

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[Better Believe It]

108. The Ones Who Gave You, Along With Dubya, Financial Deregulation

I prefer Obamaists who were not bi-partisan advocates for Wall Street deregulation which led to this crisis.

[Honeycombe8]

109. I don't know if they'd be in charge, but they'd certainly exert their influence & power, & would

and they would compete with Obama for control and influence.

I don't think Hillary would be a very good SOS because I don't think it's in her nature to take orders and submit her will to another's, which is what a SOS has to do. But if she would agree to do that, she would do fine at it, I'm sure.

It's just that...isn't it time for us to leave the Bushes and the Clintons in the past, turn a page, and proceed into the new century without them?

[NashVegas]

122. I Think You Got Played

Along with all of the other Democrats (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt) who thought it was necessary to trash Clinton in order to get Obama the nomination.

[Marrah_G]

111. self-delete

[Beacool]

112. Well, life sucks.

I wanted Hillary for president and we ended up with Obama.

Sometimes, you can't get what you want in life.

So GET OVER IT, neither Clinton is going anywhere!!!! Obama should be so lucky to have her in his cabinet. Personally, I prefer she stay in the senate for now.

:shrug:

[Marrah_G]

113. Thank you Cruzan

You have helped me find the ones who need to get their happy selves back onto my ignore list.

This post was like the light on a big old bug zapper.

[harun]

117. I don't think she will be

but if Obama picks her it is fine by me. He knows what he is doing.

He could use her to get a lot of the media pressure off him.

[EstimatedProphet]

120. Too fucking bad.

[itcfish]

123. Who Cares What You Want?

Hillary is great. I hope she gets the post she wants.

[nyc 4 Biden]

124. IBTL

[wisteria]

125. Me to! n/t