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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:22 PM
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I have opposed Senator Clinton on many issues including
the political expedient invasion of Iraq, her support of hawkish positions, her connections and influence, etc., and I support Richardson for Secretary of State due to his experience and credentials and haven been an effective negotiator and ambassador, but I do not oppose Senator Clinton for the job. I say this because her position would be to present our position on the world stage, not make policy and don't quite understand the opposition for her at this post. Maybe someone should enlighten me as to why I should vocalize opposition to her being chosen?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:29 PM
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1. The question really should be who will be a better negotiator and ambassador.
It isn't about vocalizing opposition because you do or don't like anyone, but on whether they are truly the best person for the job. Being qualified isn't enough. Being the BEST is.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:34 PM
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2. But is that enough of a reason to oppose her?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:54 PM
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3. Her foreign policy bluster * obliterate Iran * sent chills down spines.
It reeked of the testosterone-laced rhetoric that got us into the misbegotten Iraq war in the first place. Plus her repeated false claims of having brokered peace in Ireland and ducking sniperfire in Tuzla have rendered her incapable of being taken seriously on the world stage.

There are plenty of others more qualified and more deserving.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:58 PM
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5. Yes.
The Iranians would no doubt be diplomatic to a fault but it's no way to start a relationship.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:01 PM
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6. True but wouldn't she still have to tow an Obama line
no matter what her rhetoric of the past?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:57 PM
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4. I oppose it. She's not qualified and there no way she could be diplomatic
regarding the Middle East, where she's made every effort to ally herself with the hard right. He might as well keep Condi on.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:39 PM
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7. Yeah, what dailykoff said!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 04:00 PM
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8. Thank you.
The Tuzla tale alone is enough to disqualify her but don't try telling that to the faithful. Boy did her campaign sell a bill of goods.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 04:05 PM
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9. I would have considered her before the priamries.
but she lost me since then, she went down a path that I couldn't take.

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