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Sat Nov-15-08 06:07 PM
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The conservative movement is nearly finished |
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it is going through the bowels of the Republican party.
It was a painfully slow movement that started with Reagan.
it was accompanied by the sonorous thunder of Buchanan, Limbaugh, Gingrich, Delay, and Coulter,
and it will end appropriately with a perfect asswipe:
George W. Bush.
This is a repeat, but worth repeating.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:08 PM
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:09 PM
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2. I would put it back to Nixon, McCarthy and Rockefeller. And if you think it's dead think again. eom |
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:15 PM
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4. The Southern Strategy for the Republican party |
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was started with Nixon.
And nothing ever really ends "And they lived happily ever after"
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Mon Nov-17-08 03:29 PM
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23. And apparently that didn't work. |
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The South didn't vote as a monolyth for Republicans until 2000.
Or else that was the longest, drawn-out political strategy in history.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:14 PM
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3. I would take it back to Goldwater or McCarthy |
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but still love to see it dying :)
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:20 PM
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7. Goldwater was an atavist, McCarthy a red-baiter |
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The fundy xtian conservative bowel movement really started with Reagan.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:46 PM
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15. I think there should still be an alternative for people |
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Ideally, the republicans would move away from this social conservatism and go back to their smaller government roots.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:18 PM
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5. No, it isn't. The pendulum may be swinging back from the right but someday |
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I imagine it will head back toward it again.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:29 PM
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:19 PM
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6. Temporarily out of the spotlight. |
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Temporarily out of power. But definitely not dead, gone or finished. I was around when Goldwater lost and the long-term planning for the future by conservatives went into high gear. NEVER count these people out. We do so at our own peril and the Republic's.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:25 PM
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9. You're mixing metaphors |
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I didn't say they were dead.
I said they're about to be evacuated from the Republican party (in the BM definition of the word).
They are still dangerous, the way a tightly coiled steaming pile is a dangerous source of disease.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:34 PM
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13. It will be interesting to see who leaves whom.. the corporates and the religious zealots. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:38 PM
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14. David Brooks agrees with you |
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:21 PM
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8. The kooks and Palinoids will capture the GOP |
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Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 06:29 PM by FKA MNChimpH8R
for the next few cycles. By 2016, responsible, moderately conservative adults will once again have control and begin to remake the Repig party in the image of Ike, Nixon and Ford: responsible conservatism that recognizes the century we are in and the challenges of the day. The religiously psychopathic will eventually be eased out of the party after a series of brutal electoral beatdowns.
The Reaganoid era is gasping its dying breaths. That philosophy has been a colossal and catastrophic failure on all fronts. (Bowel)"Movement conservatism" has one foot in the grave, the other on a banana peel and is holding on to a kite. There is a place in any polity for a moderate conservative party. Eventually the powers that be in the Repig party will restore something like sanity after these nightmare years of imperial neocons and batshit crazy theocons. I do see the rise of an openly fascistic/nationalistic theocon party sometime in the next ten years, though.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:25 PM
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10. The only thing remaining will be the individual dingleberreris of |
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fundamental christians, stormfront racists, proud redneck anti-intellectuals, the closet racists all fighting with fiscal moderates for control of their diseased party.
I am prepared for the decade of Democratic dominance. USAUSAUSAUSAUSA!
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:32 PM
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But not flushed. The crude, vile creature is nothing if not resilient. We have it down. Now its time to put on the steel toes and kick its ribs in.
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Sat Nov-15-08 06:52 PM
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16. I'd like to give the eulogy at that funeral... |
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Sat Nov-15-08 07:21 PM
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As Kipling so wisely wrote"Don't look too good or talk too wise".The timing of the resurrection of the Repub. party is inversely related to how well the Demo. party does in power.If Obama and company do a bang up job for the next 4/8 years the repubs will not have a chance but if the demos stumble badly it will open the way for the repubs to come back.The ball is in Obama's,Reid's ,Pelosi's etc. court
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Sat Nov-15-08 07:32 PM
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19. It's a tough row to hoe... |
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bush and his minions from hell have really screwed things up, time is the variable in fixing this mess. If the people get behind change, and they don't toss bricks in the path, we can make this country a decent place to live again...it is going to take time, and effort.
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Sat Nov-15-08 07:30 PM
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18. Republicanisim as we have known it |
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has a limited life expectancy in a best case (for them scenario), the demographics are a killer for "our friends from across the aisle". They will have to make some substantive changes or hornswaggle a sizable voting block into their tent to remain an effective national party.
Being the party of racist, older, white, theocratic, warmongering, moneychanging, anti-intellectuals just isn't going to carry them into the 22nd century. They will most certainly have to give at least on the xenophobia and ease up on the theocracy to have a chance.
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Sat Nov-15-08 07:51 PM
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20. I love the way they sneer and jeer at millions of people |
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Coastal dweller? City resident? Like lattes? Community organizer? Environmentalist? Intellectual? Not a fundamentalist?
"FUCK YOU AND THE VOLVO YOU RODE IN ON" is the GOP message to those of us who are "unreal" Americans.
Great strategy there, Republicans.
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Sat Nov-15-08 08:40 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that the new voters registered for 2006 and 2008 will be bitterly disappointed with this administration, and will swing Republican in the future as a result of that disappointment.
This kind of talk is foolish, foolish, foolish.
Some of us have been sucker-punched before while counting on "hope and change."
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