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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:06 PM
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Kissinger Says Clinton Would Be Outstanding at State
By Cherian Thomas and Julianna Goldman

Nov. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Kissinger said Hillary Clinton, a leading contender to be the Barack Obama's Secretary of State, would be an ``outstanding'' appointment.

``She is a lady of great intelligence, demonstrated enormous determination and would be an outstanding appointment,'' Kissinger, who served in the post from 1973 to 1977 under presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, told the World Economic Forum's India Economic Summit in New Delhi today.

New York Senator Clinton appears to be President-elect Obama's leading choice for the job, according to a Democrat familiar with the matter. Clinton, who lost to Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, flew on Nov. 13 to Chicago, where the two met.

``If it is true, it will show a couple of things,'' Kissinger said. ``It shows great courage on the part of the president-elect to appoint a very strong personality, who has an independent constituency, into a cabinet position. It also shows willingness on the part of Clinton to subordinate herself to someone whom she lost out to.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=axnoPxGUOhUI&refer=india


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With endorsements like those.......:hide:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:07 PM
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1. Would that endorsement be the Kissinger of Death?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:11 PM
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2. I would think so.
Just waiting for rummy to weigh in, now.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:57 AM
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55. I would think so, "ditto"....
anyone Kissinger gives the ok too...Obama might want to run from...no matter who it is...wb
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:22 PM
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4. Now that's funny! DUzyworthy
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:21 PM
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3. Kissinger should be on trial at the Hague, HRC does not need his endorsement
she probably winced after reading that.

When that fucker dies i'm checking the box and bringing a stake.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:24 PM
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5. This is like Jim Jones saying you'd make a fine pastor.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 03:25 PM by mycritters2
Some references you can live without.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:24 PM
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6. I know a PR campaign when I see one...
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 03:25 PM by TwoSparkles
I worked in high-tech PR for 15 years and I know a "roll out" when I see one.

The Clinton people are working this like crazed weasels. The endless leaks are so
out of character for the Obama campaign. They've run a flawless campaign for two
years, but suddenly, we're supposed to believe that the campaign is leaking like
a sieve. This is all coming from the Clinton side.

Last week, was the introduction of the "Push Hillary as SOS" meme.

Now, we're in the "testimonials" phase--where a bevy of heavyweights will chime in to
position Hillary as the best SOS--making it nearly impossible for anyone to picture
someone else in that position.

They're pressuring Obama. If he picks someone else, he looks wishy wash--or like he
teased Hillary with the position pulled the rug out from under her.

Kissinger? Give me a break. Nothing like a job recommendation from a raging neocon.

:eyes:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:31 PM
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9. Exactly... HIGH PRAISE for Obama if he taps HRC and smear of Kerry and Richardson as PAYBACK
for their endorsements.

The Dem operatives doing this know how to work the media friendly to their tricks against other Dems.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:13 PM
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14. There's no evidence of that at all.
It's just hateful speculation.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:20 PM
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16. It was speculation that Bush was lying us into the Iraq war...
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 04:20 PM by TwoSparkles
...but some of us understood very well what the reality was.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:59 PM
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27. Speculation? I seem to recall myself and others knowing that it was complete bullshit.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:39 PM
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39. Two Words: Lanny Davis.
When Lanny Davis goes on CNN you know that something STINKS - a covert operation for HRC is in full bore. :crazy:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:50 PM
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22. There was speculation and leaks that Rahm Emmanuel
would be his chief of staff too. Are the same conspirators behind that one ?:eyes:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:47 PM
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43. That was different. It wasn't all Clinton people doing the commenting
and something rang true with Emmanuel and made sense. This does not. The woman is not qualified for this position nor does she deserve it when others with outstanding qualifications are also being considered.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:33 PM
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37. Paranoia much????????/
:crazy:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:00 PM
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48. Head in the sand much? (nt)
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:44 PM
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41. Ans, if he gives it to her, he looks like a patsy to people like me.
I hope he finds a smart way to smack down this Clinton bs.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:27 PM
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7. This endorsement scares me.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:31 PM
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8. Yeah, and Fox News questions her experience.
Good sources!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:04 PM
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10. The Kiss( inger ) of death for the Clinton nomination? nt
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:08 PM
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11. How about Satan, how's Satan feel about it?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 05:46 PM
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31. Satan declined to comment, claiming that he would not want to endanger the Church of Satan's tax...
status.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:12 PM
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12. That would put me off the idea!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:12 PM
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13. That makes up my mind.
Keep the Clintons out of this administration.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:17 PM
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15. Kissinger who endorsed McCain/Palin?
:wtf:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:24 PM
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19. The DLCers (Hillary) and the neocon contingent...
...of the Republican party are all on the same team.

It brings a big smile to my face, knowing that they were shut out of
this election.

They must be freaking out like rabid weasels on acid.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:55 PM
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25. Not if they get control of the state department.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:20 PM
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17. One strike vs Hillary
Fuck that sack of shit Kissinger.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:22 PM
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18. If Kissinger gives her his blessing that is reason enough for me to say NO FUCKING WAY!!
There has never been a more sinister, evil, murderous piece-of-shit human being born on this planet. And that's saying something when you think of the likes of Caligula and Adolph Hitler to name two.

Henry the K = Jabba the fucking Hutt, Jr.

chimpsrsmarter is right. Get out the holly stake and cut that fucker's head off. He IS the undead.

P.S. there are also myriad other reasons that Hillary should not be Sec of State, but this one is the "cherry on top".


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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:37 PM
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38. AMEN!
:nuke:
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happychatter Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:41 PM
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20. I'm not even going to read it. Now THERE is an endorsement she can do without. NT
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:45 PM
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21. That's pretty much a universally held opinion, not unique to Kissinger.
Is there ANY public figure anywhere who has said they don't think Hillary would make a good SOS?

I don't think so. No one who has a national reputation as a politician has suggested that. I don't think there's even been a pundit who has suggested that. In fact, the only people who have said that are those unqualified to make such an assessment; i.e., keyboard warriors.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:52 PM
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24. Of course that's true,but not as fun as dreaming up
conspiracies.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:58 PM
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26. Indeed. Kissinger is saying it to promote KISSINGER.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 04:59 PM by TexasObserver
Kissinger is very active still in foreign representation in the US. He wanted his name in the paper, and that's why he said it. He knows it will probably be her, so he's adding to his cred as a predictor of events, for the benefit of his clients, to impress THEM.

Kissinger is an ass, and his endorsement really means nothing, except to him and those who think his name matters. I doubt Hillary and Kissinger have spent five minutes talking to each over her entire life.

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 05:06 PM
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29. Oh,I agree completely. Kissinger never misses a
chance to pretend he's still a major player and the media have very selective memories concerning his "greatness".
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:27 PM
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32. So true! n/t
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:51 PM
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23. Yeah, that endorsement seems about as helpful to Clinton as
Cheney's endorsement was for McCain...
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 05:02 PM
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28. I'm not going to base my opinions on what Kissinger says
Hillary Clinton is qualified to be Secretary of State. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal. End of story.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 05:44 PM
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30. I find it interesting that now....
...Now that Clinton's name is back in the national news after several months, the Capitol Hill rumor mill has once again kicked into high gear, and Obama's nascent administration is instantly filled with speculation, trial-balloons, rumors, innuendo, and asshole conservatives weighing in in Clinton's favor.

I don't think it's a coincidence. And I hate to say it, but if you put Sen. Clinton in the Department of State, I suspect that place will also take on the air of chaos and uncertainty which follows the Clintons wherever they go.

It's a shame, because I consider Sen. Clinton to be a qualified and effective politician, but the way they do business is so much unlike Obama's way that I wonder if they'll be able to work together.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:33 PM
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33. "...the way they do business is so much unlike Obama's way..."
DING!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:50 PM
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44. They wouldn't be able to. n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:37 PM
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34. He would never say that about Kerry. Telling, isn't it?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:51 PM
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45. Yes, that says a lot. n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:41 PM
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35. I'm sure there are a good number of people in Chile who were
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 06:47 PM by Old Crusoe
delighted to hear this man's endorsement of Sen. Clinton for the Sec. of State job.

Link:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/Chile_TOHK.html

(Yeah, I know -- it's HItchens, but he was all over this story from the get-go.)


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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:43 PM
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36. Now, that is a frightening endorsement.\nt
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:40 PM
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Oh please, so many Chicken Little's on this board........
What's Kissinger supposed to say? The man was in New Delhi, did you expect him to say "No, I think that she would make a terrible SOS"?

Coming from a family of diplomats and politicians, it despairs me to see the ignorance on this board as to how both groups conduct themselves (particularly diplomats).

Besides, seldom are things black and white. A person may have true respect for someone's intellect and skills without agreeing with them politically.

:eyes:
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:54 PM
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47. Hillary is damned either way with these haters. If Kissinger had spoken out against her as a
possible SOS they would definitely use that against her too. It's amazing how people seemingly can't see what troublemakers and divisive forces these Hillary-haters are. It's one thing to criticize her policies or say you don't think she's right for the job of SOS, it's another to start these kind of smear threads against a fellow Democrat or insinuate that the evil Clintons are using their connections in the media to back Obama into a corner and "force" him to appoint her as SOS. Of course, none of those smears explain why the media coverage of Bill and Hillary has been so nasty for 15 years or why Obama would choose to meet with such a supposedly conniving woman. Looking at many of the posts on DU, an outsider would come to the conclusion that Hillary is enemy #1.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:53 PM
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49. They just don't know her.
If they knew her they would see why she won over even her worst critics when she entered the senate. People like Sam Brownback and Lindsey Graham, for example.

We don't have royalty in this country, but the Clintons (like the Kennedys before them) have become our quasi royal family, at least as far as the media is concerned. There's not a step that either one takes that is not dissected and overanalyzed by the media and usually seen in the worst posible light.

;)
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:03 AM
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52. When Hillary wins over critics or Republicans it's turned into a negative. When certain other
politicians get support from critics or the opposition it's portrayed as bipartisanship and a sign of leadership skills.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:13 AM
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53. It's what I've been saying throughout the primaries.
If Obama's "interesting" associations had been Hillary's, they would have been nailing her to the wall on this blog, but since it was him, then everything was just peachy.

Hypocrisy, thine is the name........

:eyes:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:40 PM
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40. I think he is senile. n/t
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:45 PM
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42. Millen Says Clinton Would Be Outstanding Lions GM
Nickelback says Clinton would be outstanding rock musician

Olive Garden CEO says Clinton would be outstanding Italian chef

Britney Spears says Hillary would make fine single mom
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:53 PM
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46. Imagine that someone always thinking Clinton would be great for anything and everything. n/t
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:57 PM
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50. I thought that you were going to say that Britney would say that she would make a fine singer
because Hillary can't sing to save her life. That's the one thing that she definitely can't do and she always jokes about it.



:7
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:02 AM
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51. If he didn't buy those sellout tickets before he got there.
:hide:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:29 AM
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54. LOL
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 01:00 AM
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56. That's about as big a disqualifier as can be imagined
Endorsed by a man who has to be very careful about where he travels, lest he be arrested as a war criminal. One more reason to select John Kerry or Bill Richardson.
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