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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:52 PM
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Why does Sen Ted Stevens bother to carry on?
Since the Senate is going to get rid of him anyhow. Why does he carry on. He (the convicted) is an embarassment for all.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:54 PM
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1. Grasping for power...it's what repukes do best
what are the latest numbers for Begich? Last I heard he was ahead by at least a thousand and ballots are still coming in?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:02 PM
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6. Begich is ahead by 1,022.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 08:10 PM by Blue_In_AK
The majority of the remaining ballots will be counted Tuesday. Wednesday is the last day to receive absentee ballots. We should have a winner by Wednesday evening, barring a recount.


Here's what The Mudflats had to say about this today...http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/does-stevens-want-begich-to-win/

Does Stevens Want Begich to Win?

No matter what happens, we are witnessing the end of Ted Stevens. Either he loses the election to Mark Begich, or he wins the election and faces expulsion by his peers. Neither scenario is one he would have chosen, or that Alaskans would ever have believed before his Girdwood home was raided by the FBI in 2006.

I hope that Mark Begich wins this seat for a variety of reasons. But, I think in the deepest recesses of his soul, Ted Stevens hopes he wins too. Stevens is a tough nut, but I suspect that the humiliation of being voted out by his Senate colleagues would be a lot tougher on him than losing an election.

The first official action of the Senate, a meeting in which senators will vote via secret ballot whether to oust Stevens from the Republican conference is scheduled to take place Tuesday morning, before the vote totals are even completed in his home state of Alaska.

Ejection from the Republican conference means losing his committee assignments and his vote on party matters.

Following his felony convictions in federal court before the election, Stevens was forced to step down as the top Republican on the Senate Commerce Committee and on an Appropriations subcommittee. He now appears in danger of losing his seat to Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich

The conference meeting is currently scheduled for Tuesday, the day after Congress returns from its elections recess. While the vote is on the agenda for 9:30 a.m., it’s not clear whether it will take place. Many Republican senators say they would rather wait for the final election results so they don’t have to cast an uncomfortable vote on whether Stevens should stay in their conference.
http://www.adn.com/ted-stevens/story/590869.html

Yes, we wouldn’t want to make them feel “uncomfortable” by voting on a secret ballot to eject a convicted felon from the Republican conference. For those Republican Senators who may be waffling on this decision, I have seven words for you. Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, aaannnnnd……guilty.

Whatever comes to pass, it won’t be long before Ted Stevens is packing up his undeclared massage chair, his fish sculpture, his stained glass window, and the rest. His Incredible Hulk collectibles, and the rest of his office will be finding its way to cardboard boxes, and leaving the Senate building after more than 40 years.

It’s a new chapter for Alaska, regardless of the outcome

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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:04 PM
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8. Best of luck to you people up there...I will keep my fingers crossed
I like Begich...I really do
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:11 PM
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11. Yes, I think Mark's going to do just fine.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:34 PM
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22. Mark Begich has an interesting
history..I'm looking forward to finding out more about him.
http://www.begich.com/
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:05 PM
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19. re:"but I suspect that the humiliation of being voted out by his Senate colleagues
would be a lot tougher on him than losing an election.":

Nothing can humiliate that man. He has no feelings, no respect for anything or anyone.


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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:59 PM
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2. After a while they don't know right from wrong.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:07 PM
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10. I have come to that conclusion
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:00 PM
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3. He's a senile, belligerent
old man with an overblown sense of self importance.

Also half the voters in Alaska voted for him, which says a lot about them as much as it does him.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:15 PM
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12. I posted this last night
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 08:16 PM by Blue_In_AK
which is my take on why he may be hesitant to leave.

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He's been in the Senate since 1968. Sen. Stevens did a lot to benefit the new state of Alaska in his early years, no doubt, and he was responsive to all of his constituents, not just the rich ones, but at some point along the way he lost his moral compass. It's kind of sad, really.

What does he care what happens between now and January? His presence in the Senate wouldn't really benefit Alaskans; it would only reflect poorly on us. I think we the people of this state can manage for a couple of months with only one senator.


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And that's it, in a nutshell. He has such a sense of his own self-importance that he honestly believes Alaska will suffer once he's gone. Maybe we will -- but it's time to move on.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:20 PM
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20. So I guess
people may have been voting for who he was rather than who he is. I can kind of see that. Strom Thurmond got re-elected time after time, even when he was beyond senile. And we Democrats have Robert Byrd, though in spite of his age, he does seem to still have most of his wits about him. Sort of.

And California voted for Arnold just because they thought having an movie action hero for Governor would be cool. Go figure.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:07 PM
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25. That's very true.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 11:08 PM by Blue_In_AK
I can't tell you how many times over the past year I heard people say, "But Ted has done so much for us," or "Ted really helped me cut through the government red tape" when they had this or that problem. I mean, he did it for ME even, when I had an issue with HUD back in the early '90s. So I believe it is really hard for a lot of Alaskans, particularly Republican-leaning folks, to come to grips with the fact that his time is over.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:10 PM
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26. I guess apples do go bad
unlss they were bad in the first place
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:33 PM
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29. I guess we'll never know.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:19 PM
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13. A stubborn old coot.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:00 PM
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4. Money and egomania
That would be my guess.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:01 PM
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5. Because he's a sack of human garbage.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:03 PM
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7. The guy is nearly 85 (b'day this Tuesday)
He wants to LIVE!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:06 PM
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9. Past his sell by date and not because of his age!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:23 PM
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14. He cannot get a Pardon from W because his sentence won't
be until after Jan. I don't feel that he will get any Prison time. His Appeal won't over turn his Sentence.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:11 PM
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27. In any case he shouldn't be in office
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:26 PM
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17. Maybe this guy will kick the bucket before January anyway
Although it's always the bad that die old.


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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:05 AM
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31. OMG.. You mean he could lose his seat on his birthday ?!?!?
That's for pointing that out gristy! ~~
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:23 PM
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15. Well, he's following Larry Craig's lead !!!!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:24 PM
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16. Because if he loses
he has nothing to negotiate for when it comes to sentencing and appealing.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:39 PM
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18. Like most asshole republicans, he's a sociopath
n/t
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:21 PM
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21. Yes, and he's 190 years old....
Retire already, Ted.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:55 PM
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23. Because without the Precious, Senator Gollum will howl and scream and lunge at peoples' throats . .
And that's definitely not going to sit well with George Will and Cokie Roberts and Mark Penn and Karl Rover and all the others who face potential lungee status.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:05 PM
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24. That makes sense....
Didn't think of that. Though I doubt at his age he would ever spend a day in prison.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:11 PM
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28. To give the Rethugs the seat?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:51 PM
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30. ego. pure and simple.
I've met the man. Its his ego. Plus, if he gets re-elected by some miracle, the Senate may not expel him until his appeals have run, which could be a while.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:28 PM
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33. we need a clean Senate not this
I'm tired of all this scratching of backs
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:05 AM
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32. Luggage? n/t
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