Are you an idealogue?

[PretzelWarrior]

Do you believe a leader of the Democratic Party should fight hard to advance the rights of GLBT citizens?

Do you believe a leader of the Democratic Party should fight hard to remove guns from the streets?

Do you believe a leader of the Democratic Party should fight hard to remove all troops from abroad and refuse to use military force?

Where are you, personally on the spectrum from full-throated idealogue to pragmatist?

How open are you to some of your main concerns not being addressed in the first month, year, or term of Obama as long as he makes progress on a wide variety of troubles and challenges for our country?

[Bicoastal]

1. I believe that I am an ideal log.

My picture:

[Drunken Irishman]

2. I have a yule log.

[blondeatlast]

14. You log. I not log.

(snicker)

[Drunken Irishman]

3. It's log! It's log!

"What rolls down stairs
and over the chairs
and into your neighbor's dog?
It fits on your back,
It's good for a snack,
Everyone knows it's log.
It's log, it's log,
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
It's log, it's log, it's better than bad, it's good."

[lapfog_1]

7. Is that one from "Blammo"?

What rolls down stairs
alone or in pairs,
and over your neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack,
And fits on your back?
It's log, log, log

It's log, it's log,
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
It's log, it's log, it's better than bad, it's good."

Everyone wants a log
You're gonna love it, log
Come on and get your log
Everyone needs a log
log log log

*whistle*
LOG FROM BLAMMO

[Radical Activist]

4. I'm an idealogue.

But I understand that change comes from the bottom up. And I understand that a politician or President can only take people as far as they're ready to go. Its the job of movements to move public opinion and make change possible. Only after that can a President ratify that change into law.

I think its a lazy attitude for left wing activists to expect Obama to take positions far out ahead of where a majority of the public stands. That's not how our system works and its not how people get elected. If a vast majority of the public doesn't support the change you want then get your ass in gear and work harder to change public opinion. Don't use Obama as a cop-out. Don't tell me its Obama's job to move the people farther left. Its your own fucking job and Obama is depending on you to do it.

[BzaDem]

13. You are more of a pragmatist than you let on. :)

I agree with your analysis.

[PretzelWarrior]

17. wow. that's a really good post. I like it.

it really speaks to facts rather than rhetoric. Most changes of any progressive nature took some time to build up coalitions. Civil rights took a LONG time to get where they were passed into law and even now there is work to do there.

[loveable liberal]

5. My favorite character on Twin Peaks was 'the Log Lady'.

[TexasObserver]

6. Pragmatist!

My idealism is for me.

My pragmatism is for getting what can be gotten, given circumstances.

[happychatter]

8. I'm actually a whore

I will give up the booty to feed some kids

I don't like ideologues

they're incapable of forming coalitions based upon common issues with people they disagree with in other areas

divide and conquer

ya'all are push overs

I'd rather be smart than easy

[David__77]

9. I'm an ideologue, sure. But I favor strong gun rights.

Not because it's in the constitution, but because I don't want the state power to have a monopoly of force.

[old mark]

10. Yes - No - No - Pragmatist - No matter,so long as progress is made.

In the past, problems were not even acknowledged, or were exacerbated. We need to start to get the US back to where it serves people,rather than just the very rich and the corporations.
Obama has pretty much done what I wanted him to do - He won big.
The How and When is now up to him, and I refuse to play the game of being offended because he didn't do things my way.

I am just very happy he will be in office.


mark

[cali]

11. I'm more of a pragmatist than ideologue.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Respectfully, Your Questions Are Overly Simplistic

Do you believe a leader of the Democratic Party should fight hard to advance the rights of GLBT citizens?

Yes

Do you believe a leader of the Democratic Party should fight hard to remove guns from the streets?

Elaborate

Do you believe a leader of the Democratic Party should fight hard to remove all troops from abroad and refuse to use military force?

What if our national interests are threatened and (all) other non violent measures of persuasion have failed?

Where are you, personally on the spectrum from full-throated ideologue to pragmatist?

I am philosophically liberal, temperamentally conservative, and operationally pragmatic.

How open are you to some of your main concerns not being addressed in the first month, year, or term of Obama as long as he makes progress on a wide variety of troubles and challenges for our country?

I am for as much needed change as prudently possible...

[blondeatlast]

15. It's difficult to be an idealistic (I have no "pet' Issue) pragmatist.

At least it is on paper--but that is indeed what I am.

[Two Americas]

16. not following you

How is gun control, for example, connected to ideology versus pragmatism?

Also, how is gun control analogous to the fight for equal rights?

Why should we see idealism as being incompatible with practicality?

Should we refuse to fight if a fascist foreign government invades the US?

We have troops abroad in order to protect global corporate interests. Is not the domination of the government by corporate interests the root cause there rather than militarism?

Is it not more important just what it is we seek to accomplish - and most importantly for whose benefit - than it is how we do it?

[gravity]

18. I have ideals, but am pragmatic about achieving them

I believe we should have never been Iraq to begin with, but you have to deal with the reality we are in. A troop withdrawal has to be done in a responsible manner to ensure that we live a stable country behind, or else it can actually can make the situation worst.