Is Hillary Clinton better suited for Attorney General? Her Watergate

[Peacetrain]

experience comes to mind. If I remember correctly she was one of the lawyers investigating. :shrug:

[cali]

1. I don't think so. She played a very minor role in the Watergate investigations

and she has little relevant legal experience.

[Lucy Goosey]

2. I thought of AG for her right away, too.

And I didn't even know about her Watergate experience. I would kind of like to see Kerry at State.

[Richardo]

3. This is my thought.

I think her legal chops are more valuable than her foreign policy chops.

[cali]

5. what legal chops?

seriously, what germane legal experience does she have? Another problem is the relationship between the bushes and the Clintons. They may be political opponents, but the two families are fairly friendly off the political field.

[panader0]

13. Didn't she fail her first bar exam?

[Richardo]

24. Be careful about the 'germane experience' argument - weren't we against that until Nov 4?

Likewise your 'guilt by association' argument. Is Hillary's intellect really so weak that she would fall into the clutches of GHWB if she had Thanksgiving dinner with him?

Many political opponents are friends, or at least friendly, in "real life".

[cali]

31. No, sorry. I thought Obama had germane experience.

[Peacetrain]

6. We have an embarrassment of riches in talent lining up..

Richardson, Kerry, Clinton for SOS. I think it would be wonderful to put these people in the best possible area that they can be effective in.

I can't see Richardson or Kerry as AG,. But I can see Clinton there and very effective.

[Kalyke]

11. We do - and not all of them are senators!

Can we please look outside the box for the cabinet?

[Richardo]

22. Yes - I really think that strip-mining the Senate for Cabinet posts is not sound policy

Seniority counts, and even if all the appointees are replaced by Dems, the caucus is weaker.

[Thrill]

4. I think Tim Kaine or Janet Napalitano will be AG

[dkf]

7. Bringing up Watergate to support Hillary as AG is a bad idea.

Her supervisor had some not so nice things to say about her stint.

I'd post it, but its some pretty bad stuff.

[Peacetrain]

9. I did not know that.. I just remembered it from reading somewhere

about her being in that arena, I didn't even know she was in DC at that time. I will google on my own.

[Metric System]

16. That smear job has been debunked. You really want to believe that guy? A guy that Rush Limbaugh

believes? I guy who smeared Hillary AND the Kennedys?:

"according to Zeifman, they feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by counsel to the president. Hunt, Zeifman said, had the goods on nefarious activities in the Kennedy Administration that would have made Watergate look like a day at the beach – including Kennedy’s purported complicity in the attempted assassination of Fidel Castro."

Zeifman posted his Hillary smear-job on the Accuracy in Media website. You should see the crap they write about Obama. Why you would choose to believe a someone who associates himself with that scum is beyond me.

[dkf]

23. Debunked?

Zeifman was the general counsel and chief of staff for the Democratic controlled House. Why would a lifelong Democrat make up crap about Hillary Clinton? That doesn't even make sense.

And we know Kennedy wasn't squeaky clean.

I'd sure like to see your debunking please. You have some links?

[Metric System]

29. "THE CRIMES OF CAMELOT." Go ahead and keep repeating right-wing smear jobs about Democrats.

Next time you're out shopping pick up Zeifman's book Without Honor: Crimes of Camelot and the Impeachment of President Nixon. If you believe him, you're no better than those who believe all the crap AIM, for example, writes about Obama.

[Metric System]

21. Also the Washington Post called his credibility into question as far back as 1996:

"Zeifman's theory goes something like this: John Doar, Hillary Rodham, Bernard Nussbaum and other Kennedy loyalists investigating Nixon obstruct his impeachment "to cover up malfeasance in high office throughout the Cold War." The scheming starlets are abetted by Peter Rodino, a weak, corrupt chairman of the House Judiciary Committee who is afraid that Nixon might expose his own Mafia ties. Rounding out the list of conspirators is Burke Marshall, Robert Kennedy's assistant attorney general, who orchestrates the bogus investigation in the hopes of keeping Nixon in office, which will, he believes, help Ted Kennedy win the White House. Using a variety of dubious legal strategies -- still with me? -- Doar and his co-conspirators do everything they can to avoid putting the president on trial, a strategy, they hope, that will prevent Nixon's lawyers from revealing the "crimes of Camelot."

The lack of evidence makes this theory hard to swallow. Zeifman's most reliable source -- his diary -- contains few revelations and seems little more than a chronicle of his suspicions and speculations."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/reviews/matthewdallek.htm

If you want to believe this nut, go ahead.

[dkf]

26. That's not a debunking.

That is just one person's skepticism.

Do you have anything other than that?

[Metric System]

28. He did not fire her. He has previously asserted that he never had the power to fire her.

[dkf]

33. All I can see is he is asserting she did certain actions and then

he speculates as to why she did them.

But his account of things that happened seem pretty concrete.

I have a feeling that it would be easy enough to prove either way if anyone was interested. Indeed she seems to have made written recommendations to the committee. If he is lying about the recommendations wouldn't that be easily disproven?

I don't know why your article writer didn't simply research this and state if he found what was asserted in the article.

[Metric System]

34. Again, next time you're out shopping pick up Zeifman's book Without Honor: Crimes of Camelot and the

Impeachment of President Nixon. It's a must-have in anyone's collection of right-wing propaganda!

BTW, Zeifman has also written for World Net Daily and Newsmax. And you believe him. You can read more about Zeifman at this link:

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2008/zeifman.html

As the author states, "For a self-proclaimed "lifelong Democrat," Jerry Zeifman sure spends a good chunk of his time bashing his alleged fellow Dems on the ConWeb."

[dkf]

36. Did you read the book then?

Frankly, I would be a whole lot more interested if someone would look at the record though. And I don't have the legal degree needed to do this properly.

I'm not interested in his Kennedy speculation as much as whether Hillary tried to take away Nixon's right to counsel, which I guess you are asserting isn't true?

[Metric System]

38. Sorry, but Zeifman has no credibility in my book. Again, read the link. If you still think he's a

good Democrat or worth believing, that's up to you. I know I don't feel comfortable believing someone who writes for AIM, World Net Daily and Newsmax.

[Uben]

8. That's not what Obama wants her for.........

...he wants her for SoS, and I trust his decision.

[Peacetrain]

10. Well she is a talented woman, she would give her best whatever

area she decides in the end to tackle. I was just reaching back in those musty memory banks of mine

[Peacetrain]

17. oops posted in the wrong place

[cali]

12. I wouldn't mind her as SoS, but I doubt Bill will make it through the

vetting process.

[Peacetrain]

20. I need to read that questionnaire on vetting myself

just for my own information!

[Skwmom]

14. Her boss doing Watergate wouldn't recommend her for a job b/c of her unethical conduct.

ZEIFMAN: Well, let me put it this way. I terminated her, along with some other staff members who were -- we no longer needed, and advised her that I would not -- could not recommend her for any further positions.

BOORTZ: Why not?

ZEIFMAN: Because of her unethical conduct.

BOORTZ: Now, to get this on the record, you are now, were then, and you are a lifelong Democrat, are you not?

ZEIFMAN: Yes, very much so.

BOORTZ: How do you feel about her candidacy for president of the United States right now?

ZEIFMAN: Well, I think that for any intellectually honest Democrat, her -- it would be a moral imperative to vote against her.

BOORTZ: Because of her lack of ethics when she was working for you?

ZEIFMAN: Well, no. Frankly, I had hoped when she eventually became first lady, I had hoped that we had taught her a lesson. And I had voted for Bill Clinton, knowing that he was advocating a two-for-one presidency. But after two -- excuse me --

BOORTZ: That happens to me all the time, too. And I'm on the radio, so --

ZEIFMAN: There I go again.

BOORTZ: Yeah.

ZEIFMAN: And I don't even smoke. Now, what happened was that I voted for Bill Clinton out of loyalty to the Democratic Party. And -- but within a short time, I became very disenchanted with the Clinton administration because of its corruption and deceit.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200804040011

[PBS Poll-435]

18. Please don't post thiings from or about Neil Boortz here

Pleeeezzzze.

:)

[cali]

19. Zeifman is a wingnut tool. Love it when DUers decide to put sooo much

faith in rabid rightwingers.

:rofl:

[Skwmom]

27. Oh there are PLENTY of Democrats who have opined on the Clintons.

Geffen on the Clintons: Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it’s troubling.

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/02/21/opinion/21dowd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

I guess he is a rightwing tool?

[Hepburn]

15. No.

IMO, Hillary needs to stay where Hillary is ~~ U.S. Senate.

[RaleighNCDUer]

25. The corporate lawyer for Wal Mart? No thanks.

I think that as SoS she could be very effective, so long as Obama was there to keep her neo-lib tendencies in check. Ambassador to the UN would be good - or any of a dozen other top ambassadorial posts.

Wherever she goes, it has to be a position where she uses her talents to reflect Obama's positions, not where she will be put into opposition with his positions.

[GoesTo11]

30. Bad idea. AG should be perceived as non-politiical

Republicans would never give it a rest that she is not really enforcing the law, but just politicizing it (claiming that she does exactly like they did). That's not to say she would, but that would be a huge distraction and it would make it more difficult to execute what needs to be done with legitimacy. Compare to how a pre-prostitution Eliot Spitzer would have been received - a pitbull on the side of justice. Not sure who would be the best person for AG out there now, but if Hillary is to be in the cabinet, at SoS, her intangibles would be positives (other countries would be a little dazzled by her star power) instead of negatives.

[Mist]

35. I was always an Edwards for AG fan--pre-scandal. (Actually, I'm STILL an Edwards for AG fan). nt

[Arkansas Granny]

32. Hillary is probably suited for many of the offices to be filled in Obama's

cabinet and administration. However, it is up to the President-elect to choose the people he wants to fill these positions and I trust he will make the best decisions possible.

[Deep13]

37. Nah. Her personal skills are better suited for chief diplomat. nt

[noonwitch]

39. Senate Majority Leader!

She'd have more power than in a cabinet position.

[AtomicKitten]

40. Not if we want BushCo investigated. She will bury it just like her hubbie did with Bush I.