JCMach1
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:25 PM
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Some of Obama's Biggest Boosters on DU are Some of the First to Question His Choices For Cabinet |
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Edited on Mon Nov-17-08 01:27 PM by JCMach1
I am finding that just a bit ironic... NO?
Obama won a mandate from the people and yet some people are already second-guessing and criticizing. You know what? Obama has already proven himself the best American politician of his generation and he has EARNED my support.
I did not come to Obama easily. His positions always struck me as being farther to the right than I personally am willing to go. I also had my doubts about his ability to win. And, you know what? He has proven me wrong at every turn.
Here is the bottom-line: I trust Obama to put together the best team for him and for the country.
If he wants Rahm, fine... If he wants Hillary, fine... If he wants Summers, fine... IF not, I can live with that too...
After all that he has shown me, I am going to trust Obama to get it right.
I am standing by Obama...
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:28 PM
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1. Do I find it ironic? No. |
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Barack Obama works for me.
If I wanted some leader I wouldn't question and expected other people not to question I'd be a republican.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:29 PM
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2. some of his biggest boosters on DU supported him |
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more because they were against someone else than because they were for him...
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:31 PM
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4. now my head is spinning... |
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:44 PM
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:30 PM
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3. Questioning those in power separates us from the animals. |
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That's how we participate in the process.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:32 PM
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5. funny, Obama hasn't made any choices for his Cabinet |
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you can't blame those of us who take offense at anyone who would try to manipulate Obama into making a bad decision.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:35 PM
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9. So Obama is easy to manipulate now...? |
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:rofl:
This is too funny...
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:52 PM
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15. not at all. but that doesn't stop shitheels from trying. |
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they tried during the Veepstakes too, only to have the door slammed in their faces. it will happen again.
One day, they will learn that Obama is not like them. He has integrity.
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Mon Nov-17-08 03:18 PM
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27. What a giant load of crap |
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Paranoia will eat our insides out - unless of course the Clintons do it first.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:38 PM
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11. Again with the insinuations. |
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:08 PM
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17. Thank you. We are questioning rumors right now, that's all. |
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I happen to believe that the offer everyone is concerned about won't even happen.
But that's another shitstorm for another day.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:33 PM
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6. #1. We don't know his choice of Cabinet yet. #2.MOST of his supporters have accepted his choices |
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when it comes to his transition team and WH staff picks.
So your opening post is pretty much bullshit.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:33 PM
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7. What's the so what about that? |
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Complaining about anonymous "some DU'ers" just seems like setting up a straw man you can knock down in order to hail your own loyalty.
Hollow victory that.
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Mon Nov-17-08 03:11 PM
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26. Doctor Frankenstein's recipe for monstrosity |
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It seems to be a parlor game around here. Rarely does a day go by that I don't see someone start a thread based on some randomly-collected stances (straws) taken by some variety of DUers with which an OP (Lion) takes some kind of issue, where the OP (Lion) pastes those stances (straws) together in some manner and then attempts to breathe life into it by pretending that there's some 'average' DUer in that vague and nebulous group that manifests the set of stances (straws).
Maybe we denizens of DU's Oz should just clone Grovelbot and call that strawman "Abby Normal"??
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:35 PM
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8. I support Obama. I do not believe he is a god and I have to agree with everything he says and does. |
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This said, among the "choices" you list, only one is a choice. At this point, the rest are media rumors that some people would like us to accept as fact. May be we can wait until they are announced to renounce our right of free speech to satisfy you.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:37 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-17-08 01:38 PM by liberalmuse
I think those who were on board very early were less critical of him back then, but are likely to be more critical of him now. Those of us who jumped on board rather late did so because in my case, I'm very liberal and realized he was more center left than my views, and perhaps too willing to reach out to the other side than I was comfortable with at the time, so his cabinet choices now aren't all that surprising.
I may have been a late Obama supporter but I am a very strong supporter now. I'd been looking him over with an extremely critical eye for awhile before I jumped on board, and came to realize that the guy really does believe what he says and has very good judgment (ie; his impressively run campaign), along with being the kind of person who learns quickly. That is a plus, because while, like many here, I was bowled over by his 2004 DNC speech, and just knew he would be our first AA President, I thought it was too early for him in 2008. However, he changed my mind and gained my confidence because of his self-awareness and very impressive ability to see his weak points, make adjustments, and grow. I think we late supporters have put him through the fire, so to speak, and he passed.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:45 PM
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13. One of the major reasons we are in the mess, is members of the American Public REFUSING to question |
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Edited on Mon Nov-17-08 01:45 PM by Skwmom
those they voted for.
Obama says he doesn't want to be surrounded by yes people so whey would he want yes supporters.
If he wanted blind supporters, he should have run as a Republican.
Appointing Summers, who helped get it us into the biggest debacle since the great depression, is mind-boggling. So yeah, I would question that appointment b/c it would be like putting Greenspan back in charge of the federal reserve.
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:47 PM
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14. You expected any different around here? I have... |
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no one on "ignore," but I ignore a lot of stuff. And people.
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:06 PM
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16. I think that's an excellent sign. |
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So much for the "kool aid" drinkers meme. They're asking questions, and they should be. If they were all just fawning over him we'd be like Bush supporters.
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:11 PM
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18. So I guess we weren't Kool-Aid drinking worshippers, after all? |
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Rather that we thought he was the best person for the job, but still imperfect?
That's what discussion of the leaks regarding Obama's potential Cabinet says to me.
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:38 PM
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23. What worries me is the type of Democratic firing squad that hit Clinton |
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in '92 and '93 over universal health care...
I think we have to give him the time and the credit that he will get it right... Yet, I worry that some will disappointed with realities that face leading as opposed to running for office.
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:12 PM
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19. The problem here is not Obama, it's the whore media and the "beltway" asshats |
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This is a crowd that does not believe in the Democratic party, period. If they claim they're going to have a "Democrat" on their shows, 99 times out of 100 it will be a DLC'er or some weak pathetic tool like Bob Shrum (who, thank Christ, had NOTHING to do with the Obama campaign)
And just as they were having a continuous wet dream about some pathetic DLC piece of shit like Evan Bayh being named as Obama's veep, they're now trying to insert THEIR choices (DLC) into all the key cabinet positions.
Fuck that, and fuck them.
I'm not believing a word of it until I hear it from the President himself.
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:35 PM
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21. Good point there are many good people still being considered |
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Holbrooke, Richardson, even Kerry for Sec. of State... not to mention other posts.
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:14 PM
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20. So much for the "cult of personality" meme so beloved by PUMAs and freepers everywhere. |
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:38 PM
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22. Some of Obama's biggest boosters on DU were never really his biggest boosters. |
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:55 PM
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24. Yup, the bankwagon rider, fair weather friend syndrome. |
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Like a certain percentage of boomers I remember during the '60s. They were hippie protesters until it got tough, then scurried into corporate jobs they weren't qualified for while the A-team was being hunted down without a peep from anybody, and became yuppies. Today's management class.
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Mon Nov-17-08 03:07 PM
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25. Shouldn't we be questioning our leaders all the time? |
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When did that become a bad thing?
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