A "leak" some here won't like...

[S_E_Fudd]

"Unraveling The Mystery Of Clinton's Secret Chicago Trip"

People close to the Obama transition say they understand all this -- they understood all this last week --- and that there's been no delaying, there's been no acrimony, and that Clinton and her team have acted professionally and appropriately.


http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/on_wednesday_the_call_came.php

[mkultra]

1. as expected. The media wants drama

[S_E_Fudd]

2. Some of that around here too...

Sad to say

[mkultra]

4. if your trying to fling feces, just put it down and back away.

Starting a flame bait like this will get you banned lightning fast.

[S_E_Fudd]

6. Stating fact is not flinging feces...

A cursory glance at the front page of GD: Presidential is evidence of this.

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[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. Not so fast...

Can we get a general consensus on whether stating fact is appropriate?

[mkultra]

25. lol

[acmavm]

9. You must have missed all the shit that's been flung by the I HATE HILLARY

crowd.

Or is that 'different'?

[mkultra]

14. same thing really

so lets perpetuate it?

[acmavm]

11. You must have missed all the shit that's been flung by the I HATE HILLARY

crowd.

Or is that 'different'?

[mkultra]

15. you must have missed the part about hitting the button once.

[Cosmic Charlie]

19. believe you me, most of us would be overjoyed if this episode had never even occurred

[KittyWampus]

3. why won't some here like it?

[ProSense]

5. Rumors and speculation from Marc Ambinder? Here's more

So -- what's responsible for the radio silence between Thursday and today?

A few things:

Sources close to the process have said that Obama and Clinton discussed a variety of possible roles she could play in a new administration, including Secretary of State.

If Clinton is offered a cabinet spot and decides to accept it, it's not unreasonable to expect her to want to think about her options and spend time discussing the offer with her close friends and advisers.

As it happens, three of her top advisers -- former campaign manager Maggie Williams, chief legal adviser Cheryl Mills, and President Clinton -- were out of the country late last week.

Mills, who was Abu Dhabi, has always played a central role on any matters related to the Clinton's joint finances or the presidents' foundation work. Any vet of Clinton's finances would run through Mills.

Bill and Hillary would be called upon to make decisions about transparency together, and since the former president was in Europe and Kuwait through Sunday, it's not unreasonable to expect Hillary Clinton to want to cogitate with her husband in person.

(emphasis added)

Sounds like he believes the leak came from a Clinton ally.

[S_E_Fudd]

7. Doesn't say that at all...

In fact it implies otherwise...

[ProSense]

12. So what does it say?

Bill said he spoke to Hillary. He said she would make a great SoS, but that they didn't discuss it.

What this says is that there are a bunch of contradictory reports: she was offered the job, hasn't spoken to anyone, others are being considered, Bill is being vetted before Hillary has even spoken to anyone or indicated her willingness to submit to the vetting process, and more confusion.

[ProSense]

17. Oh, forgot this part

According to Democratic sources, Clinton disclosed the information to only three people and swore them to secrecy.

Wonder who told those Democratic sources?

[vanderBeth]

8. Why wouldn't we like it?

[DeepModem Mom]

13. Thanks for posting. nt

[Sensitivity]

16. Rather PERVERSE to call an official report a "leak."

[S_E_Fudd]

23. huh?...nt

[AtomicKitten]

18. and then there's this:

from ClarkUSA's post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7881371&mesg_id=7881371

Team Obama, after all but offering SecState to Senator Clinton, is expressing EXASPERATION with the Clinton camp for the difficulty in getting a clean vet on President Bill Clinton’s many entanglements. “The ball is very much in her court, but the president's finances have been a major point of sensitivity from day one,” a Democratic official said. (“Day One!”)

“Given that everyone's mystified by how deliberately public the Clintons have made this once secret process, the assumption is either that the Clintons are trying to use the public buzz to steamroll their way in, create a sense of inevitability that overcomes those concerns, or that it's just a matter of time before they … satisfy vetting somehow, some way.

Otherwise, after all this speculation, there’ll be a permanent dark cloud hanging over her finances. … But generally the sense among the no-drama Obama world is: This is well on its way to winning best Oscar for drama.”

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[mollymongold]

22. how is this stirring up trouble? its setting the record straight.

[mollymongold]

21. politico is obsessed with playing up clinton vs obama drama, no matter whats true

[wisteria]

30. yes. n/t

[Beacool]

26. Hallelujah, a word of reason in a forest of innuendo.

Thank you for posting, it won't mean beans to the usual rabid mob, but thanks anyway.

:hi:

[TexasObserver]

27. I never expected anything less from Hill and Bill than full cooperation.

I said weeks ago, months ago - when the deal was made, both sides would honor it. They're professional politicians, and when you make a deal during the run up to the election with another politician, you do not breach that promise, or your word will never be trusted.

There IS honor among politicians when they shake on a deal.

[Zhade]

28. So they're acting like adults. And?

This doesn't confirm your fervent hope that she'll get SOS. It just says there's no acrimony.

Obama doesn't do acrimony, so it's not like this is news. :shrug:

[wisteria]

29. Nonsense, Obama's people are not talking- Clinton's are.

No one will ever convince me that this isn't a Clinton media orchestrated blitz.