Woman needs psychiatric help because of Obama winning.

[Erin Elizabeth]

Yep, seriously.

I ran into someone this morning I haven't seen in a while (maybe a few months) and she's SO upset over Obama's win that she's seeing a counselor. For real. She doesn't know where I fall on the political spectrum, we've just been friendly acquaintances for years. But she was SO damn bummed when I saw her today, she looked like she was going to burst into tears at any moment. Normally she's a pretty cheerful person. I asked her what was wrong and she teared up and said "Obama's what's wrong."

I was so confused by that, because I thought she'd say her dog had died, or her adult daughter was terminally ill, that I couldn't make sense of it at first.

"O-what's what?"

"OBAMA. You know, that...MIXED.....PERSON......who is SUPPOSEDLY going to be THE PRESIDENT."

Direct quote. That.....MIXED.....PERSON. She struggled to say "person." And "president." And how is it supposedly?

So I told her a true story: this morning at about 6:30 am, I was grumbling about it being Monday and everything I have to do this week and I got an email about a dear high school friend who finally lost her fight to cancer last night. On her 38th birthday. With two young daughters. Right before the holidays.

I assured her things could be SO much worse than a "mixed person" in the White House. She was just staring at me. So I asked her how long she's felt this way.

"Felt what way?"

"So...against....non-white people?"

She said she's not hateful, just a Republican. I nearly laughed. But she went on to say she found a counselor last week because she's going to need a lot of help to deal with this. A LOT of help.

My God. Get a grip, woman. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I didn't even go to a counselor in the eight years we had to deal with a president who had an IQ of a fucking amoeba. And I certainly had times when it would have been necessary.

So we get a good, SMART guy in there and she needs psychiatric help because his daddy was black. What is wrong with this world?

To edit, at least she's getting help. I hope she's going to see this one counselor I know of: a no-nonsense woman who will just sort of shake her up and tell her to stop being so hateful and snap out of it. (She's a bit different from most counselors, I admit. But I think she's great. She wouldn't tolerate this self-pity because the president's mixed business for one hot second.)

[AndrewP]

1. I'm mixed race too, and tell her I say hi!

Also, tell her I said to fuck off as well. :)

[Erin Elizabeth]

4. I know so many mixed race people.

My hairdresser's son is half-white, half-black and he's a kid but he understands Obama's dad was black and his mom was white, too and he's so proud he's about ready to bust!

I will tell her hi and fuck off!

[jenmito]

25. Are you talking about my sister?

She's a hairdresser with a mixed son (but also two mixed daughters). She lives/works in NJ. :)

[Erin Elizabeth]

27. Nope! This one just has her son and she lives in Texas.

He goes on and on about Obama and he's so cute when he says "the president is just like me!" I love it! And my daughter's two best friends are mixed, too.

[jenmito]

33. I didn't think so...

but thanks for sharing your story. My White brothers are married to Black and Indian women and my sister is married to a Black guy. They all have 3 kids each-all my nieces and nephews. I'm married to a Japanese guy-no kids. Our family looks like the UN and we all love it. The kids had t-shirts that read, "Obama for my future!" :)

[BlueJazz]

36. My Friend ...who is an Anthropologist, said we are all "mixed"

(God..I hope nobody finds out) :)

[safeinOhio]

47. To be a pure breed requires

100 generations of inbreeding. Father, daughter. Son, mother. Yuck

[soothsayer]

2. So you know Sarah Palin?

[Erin Elizabeth]

7. Shudder. No, thank God.

But I didn't know how many were running around! Lots! It's scary!

[RC]

58. I first read this as a response to #47.

[Grown2Hate]

91. LoL! That would have worked SO much better. :o) NT

[firedupdem]

3. She needs counseling and more because she's fucking crazy. n/t

[Erin Elizabeth]

5. Yep, which is why I added my edit. I am glad she is at least

getting help. Sure needs it. I had NO idea she was so racist.

[Rambis]

6. * drove a lot of people to seek treatment

my father was one of them and I was heading there myself. Being at peak outrage for 8 years is hard work.

[Erin Elizabeth]

9. However, your reasons were extremely different, I bet.

I bet it wasn't because Bush is white.

[Rambis]

15. true (nm)

x

[tosh]

39. Oh, Rambis! Hard work? May I offer some alternate phrases

for that?

drudgery, a tough job, a hard row to hoe, endless toil... let me know if you need more.

"Hard work" was a favorite phrase of you know 'W'ho. I can't bear to use it or to hear it.

[Rambis]

41. Oh, there you go again tosh:)

palin around with terists- only jokin! I hope I never hear any of the "wretch phrases" again!
Cheers!

[yardwork]

8. Look at it this way. She's contributing to her local economy.

I'm going to assume that this woman has some extra money lying around, enough to spend on a therapist to deal with her racism. So I see two beneficial results. One is that some of her money will go into the local economy through her therapist, and the other is that she might actually get help with her racism. A win-win.

[Erin Elizabeth]

11. VERY true.

It is good that she's getting help.

[demnan]

10. Maybe that's the best thing she can do

Perhaps talking with someone she can work through her deep-seated racist feelings which are based on fear. Perhaps she can learn not to feel fear over irrational things like a President's skin color. There might be something deeper here too that she's not telling you. I was thinking perhaps she might have been a crime victim or something.

[Erin Elizabeth]

13. I hadn't thought of that.

That's interesting. And I do agree it's good she's at least seeking and getting help.

[yardwork]

19. I doubt that her racism is due to any one incident.

I've been a victim of crimes and they didn't make me racist. It doesn't work that way.

Anyway, does Obama look remotely like a criminal to any sane person? Can any sane person imagine Obama triggering post-traumatic stress? No, I don't believe so.

[Erin Elizabeth]

28. She's probably always had this deep-seated racism, taught to her

when she was young and this has really brought it to the top. Makes me wonder how she felt about Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etc?

[yardwork]

56. She was probably ok with them in those positions because white men were in charge.

For some reason, the idea of a black man as president has really freaked out the racists. I don't understand it but then they aren't rational anyway.

[GodlessBiker]

12. You should have pushed her over the edge: told her they are moving up the date he becomes president.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

23. LOL, You are wicked!

:evilgrin:

[Bobbie Jo]

14. Talk about pre-existing conditions.....

ya think?? :think: :crazy:

[Why Syzygy]

16. I'm glad she's getting help.

Most of them need it, and it's good news to hear of someone getting help. As long as she stays away from Catholic priests, she has a chance.

I guess these people are waking up from their fantasy land where George is a hero, torture is 'okay', and the dollar is infallible, etc. No telling what might break forth.

[ieoeja]

17. As your post-script says, at least she is seeking help.

I bet if you asked her about the current economic crisis, she would say it started on November 5th in response to Obama's election. I bet she seriously can not remember this October's stock market crash, the lending crisis, the housing bubble, etc.

These people do need help. And at least this one realizes it.

[Erin Elizabeth]

22. I swear to you, she looked and sounded and acted like

someone had killed her dog. In front of her. That morning. I guess she's been like this since the election, which makes me wonder if her family didn't encourage her to call a counselor.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

29. It started Sept 18th. ~link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3496680

[dkofos]

18. I hope she doesn't hurt anyone but herself.

[CakeGrrl]

20. Sounds like she thinks those "mixed" people are only supposed to go so far

up the ladder of accomplishment.

But not up to the biggest position in the US - the PRESIDENT! Not that! She apparently perceives it as an entitlement that should only belong to whites.

Good luck to that counselor.

On the upside, Obama's candidacy and presidency has been an enlightening experience for lots and lots of people.

[Erin Elizabeth]

24. Interesting question: if you were a counselor

how WOULD you deal with this?

Any counselors/psychiatrists in the house?

[Mz Pip]

35. I'm a counselor

or was (now retired). This is a case I think I would have to refer out to someone else. I couldn't begin to muster up much empathy for her "pain" and would have a hard time stopping myself from using the big no-no in counseling - sarcasm.

[TygrBright]

38. Interesting question. I was wondering the same thing.

Most of the therapists I know of are pretty much reality-therapy types, teaching cognitive behavioral imaging, working on prolonged exposure therapies for trauma management, etc.

I don't know where something like this would fall on the spectrum of internal/external origins and how it would be approached as a therapeutic issue.

I suspect a fair amount of attention to getting her to articulate the basis for her anxiety, then dissecting it in the light of day, might be a fruitful, if slightly risky approach.

Most fears and anxieties tend to get less acute when you can look them over in detail, in a safe place, with a supportive person to help you compare them to reality, etc.

Good for her that she's willing to get help. I hope it's the start of a whole new approach to life for her. Life is a lot easier when you can look at it as being full of interesting potential friends, as opposed to scary potential enemies.

compassionately,
Bright

[WI_DEM]

21. Thankfully most women are not dumb like she is--Obama won women by 13-points.

[movonne]

26. I was in the same condition when these thugs supposedly won the

election...I feel like a big weight has been lifted from the world..

[EstimatedProphet]

30. The real reason she needs therapy is because she's a Repub

[proud patriot]

68. Bingo

However my 87 yr old life long republican
grandmother voted for Obama and cried happy
tears on election night .

So Obama voting republicans are prob okay .

the others who truly believed all the puke
lies for years will need counseling

[1corona4u]

31. ...

[Cha]

32. I didn't need a councelor with the bush

years, either, 'cause I had DU.

I would have needed a strong support group if mccain-palin had somehow gotten in and implemented their agenda to wipe out the Planet.

It's disturbing how many ignorant brainwashed people there are.

It was always very encouraging to me when a republican saw the light and didn't want four more years of America and the world going down the drain just because they were "republican".

[T Wolf]

34. This waste of flesh and waster of oxygen just needs to off herself and leave the rest of us in peace

[knixphan]

46. Half-laughing, half-agreeing.

[Erin Elizabeth]

75. Half-hoping he's not a counselor!

:rofl:

[liberalmuse]

37. Damn!

I took Lexipro for about a month and a half when Dean lost the primaries, but that's it. I think we Dems have had a helluva lot more to deal with than the 'pubs and their violating everything sacred to liberals for the past 8 years.

You are right. At least she's sought a counselor. Too many are cuddling up to their newly purchased guns, and their own suppressed demons of racism that have only recently come front and center.

[Danger Mouse]

40. Heh bigots are funny.

[NEOhiodemocrat]

42. so sorry about your high school friend

how sad to happen right before the holidays. Truly sad for her two daughters and rest of her family and friends. I hope this woman who is going to the counselor can get some help, sounds like she really needs it.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

43. I wonder about people like that

I saw one over the weekend who told my husband and me that she could never trust anyone with the name Barack Hussein Obama because it "sounded Muslim". My husband immediately asked, "And what is so wrong with Muslims?" while I chimed in with "You know he didn't name himself, don't you? Would you like someone to judge you solely on your name that was given to you at birth?" We were ready with lots more things to say, but the person sort of shrank into themselves and didn't say another thing.

Do I regret traumatizing this person? No way! :D

But maybe something similar happened to your acquaintance. Anyway, may she get help-it would be nice if her shrink was a nice mixed person of a non-Christian persuasion.

[TexasObserver]

44. No doubt she has a religious shrink helping her through this.

Because Jesus prefers they use shrinks who have a fish on their business card.


Ask her if she would feel better if Sarah Palin's preacher cast out demons from her, like he did with Sarah Palin.

[mnhtnbb]

45. At least she has the resources to get help to understand why she's a bigot

and why she's threatened by an intelligent man with skin darker than hers. That's what a real
therapist will help her to do.

I'm sorry that you lost your friend. Too many good people leave us way too soon.

[BREMPRO]

48. she's a mixed UP person. she needs a cultural transplant.

when they see how well this 'Mixed person" actually runs the country compared to purebred Bushbag, maybe, just maybe there will be a light that goes off, OH, OK, maybe we were wrong. nah.

[zulchzulu]

49. Gad... I wonder what the counselor is saying to her?

Like this?

"Now, Martha, Barack Obama is black. Or like you said... um... mixed. Like Colin Powell, who's a Republican! Honey, you like Condi Rice, right? No? Oh...

Yes, he will be President. Yes, he will sit in the Oval Office chair... oh, hon! Do you need a barf bag?

Here! Now, when you're done realizing that he is in fact a human being like you with a black wife and kids, then we'll talk some more.

OK? You OK? No?

Alright, we'll end this session today. As a little test, I want you to watch Oprah. Can you do that? Then we'll talk about her skin color too.

[styxandjourneyrule]

50. Is this for real? For real for real? OMFG....

No further text, just OMFG...

(well, I'd love to know what state you're in and if they just installed the Internets this week. Truly frightening...)

[Erin Elizabeth]

77. Yes, very very for real.

And I'm in Texas, but believe me, you can find wacked out racists just about everywhere.

[Amimnoch]

51. My husband and I can meet with her sometime, if that would help?

I'm just sure a gay interracial couple would just finish her off!

[Erin Elizabeth]

78. Oh my.

I snorted Coco Puffs up my nose!

[eshfemme]

52. Well... at least she's getting help for it.... better than most other racists out there...

But I also find it believable that she'd try her best to find a Republican (coughracistcough) counselor to commiserate with. So I dunno...

But yeah, that's fucked up. Seriously, electing Obama is blowing too many minds-- it hopefully will turn out to be a good thing in showing the flaws in people's thinking. But WTF?

[bullwinkle428]

53. My original thought for a two-word reply : "Anne Coulter?"

[DesertRat]

54. I would be seeking psychiatric help if McCain had won

Seriously.

[Erin Elizabeth]

79. I probably would, too, but not because of his skin color or race.

[Nedsdag]

55. So you spoke to Lynn Samuels, eh? n/t

[Kittycat]

57. Do you have a name of that counceler?

I might need to refer several paranoid women from my debate board over there. They're still freaking out about Obama taking their guns, their money - and the fact that he's not even a US Citizen. They're very *scared*, as well. I think that's their anti-christ fear.

[Erin Elizabeth]

80. I'm horrible....the women I know on the internet like that? I've been

fucking with them. Telling them stuff that Obama is going to do that they would believe, but that no rational person would ever believe. They are freaking the fuck out, except that two or three of the more lucid ones are finally catching on that I'm fucking with them. It puts all their fears in the same silly light. Hopefully they'll chill out.

[IN-dem]

59. I think my mom's neighbor needs help

He hasn't taken down his McCain/Palin signs and just yesterday he put a flag on each side of the sign. I LMAO every time I drive by.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

60. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend

This woman is batpoop crazy. I'm like you - the last 8 years have driven me absolutely nuts, but not to the point where I've had to seek counseling. Arrrrggghhhh!

[mmonk]

61. Hate to sound nasty but good. I've needed it but haven't sought it since bush took office.

It's her turn. At least my reasons were rational.

[Berry Cool]

62. There's definitely more going on here than meets the eye.

If she's this psychologically overwrought because a man was elected president who is not 100% white, she's got deeper issues she should definitely explore with a professional. Chances are that professional will find out that there's a whole 'nother set of problems lurking under the surface.

Condolences to you on the loss of your friend.

[northernlights]

63. but, but, but

why are you insulting amoebas? Some of my best friends are amoebas. And I can assure you they are far more intelligent than *.

[Spike89]

64. You know she isn't going to ask to become an ex-racist

A good and very patient counselor might have a chance of getting the woman to the point where she confronts and attempts to repudiate her own racism. However, that isn't why she is going to the counselor--to cure her racism--she's going to the counselor to get some drugs so she can cope with the "calamity" of having a mixed person in the lily white house. If the counselor tells her that the problem is her (her racism), not Obama, she'll most likely just leave and find someone willing to give her the drugs.

[bluedawg12]

65. She's a MIXED (UP) Person

and was before the election.

[Eyes_wide_ open]

66. You're a better person than me

I would have had to tell her she didn't need a counselor, she needs a full blown shrink because she's nutty as a fruitcake :eyes:

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend, that's never an easy thing.

[Jennicut]

67. Sounds like my mother minus the racist crap

She is depressed over the election. I told her I got over Shrub winning "TWICE". She thinks Obama's grandmother is not his real G-ma. WTF? She is my mother, I love her, but drinks the Rethug kool-aid.

[Puzzler]

69. It's amazing what 8 years (or more) of RW hate radio...

... and other propaganda will do to a person. She sounds exactly like someone who's just got out of a cult and needs to be "deprogrammed".

[surrealAmerican]

70. She is so lucky Obama won ...

... because otherwise she might not have sought out this much needed help with her mental health.

[dysfunctional press]

71. it sure would be fun to be her counseler...

i'd keep her coming back until she'd paid for a new boat.

[BlooInBloo]

72. Wasted expenditure. Just wait for them to die.

[Maru Kitteh]

73. smells fishy.

[Erin Elizabeth]

81. How so?

[AZBlue]

74. Maybe this will help her get over her rampant racism.

Hopefully the counselor will guide her to a healthier attitude toward other human beings.

[Generator]

76. Whew. I was afraid this was another Hillary post...

[Erin Elizabeth]

83. Ok that *actually*

made me choke on my drink.

[Erin Elizabeth]

82. I want to say thank you to everyone who mentioned

my friend's passing. She was too young and I appreciate your good thoughts.

[codjh9]

84. What a ... I'm almost out of adjectives for insane Republicans. God help us all, as my mother

used to say all too often.

[moc]

85. Sorry to be personal, but aren't you in the DFW area?

I seem to recall you mentioning something that placed you in the area. If so, you should send her my husband's way. He's a therapist here in the metroplex, and he would be like the counselor friend of yours - no nonsense. He'd tell her to get a grip and get over herself.

[cooolandrew]

86. In a way she kind of admits she knows she is propagandized and her natural self is not hateful >

but she can't come to terms with the way they have told her to think and how Barack being president has to make her come to terms with thinking. In respect of being accepting. The fact she said mixed race instead of a racial slur says she knows what she's been told is the wrong way to think and is doing something about it.

[DogPoundPup]

90. You are good! That is a great analysis...she is distressed from her own guilt!

[qwlauren35]

87. I had a Counselor like that ONCE.

Eventually, I got up the courage to drop her. I didn't see anyone else for a while because I felt so "mind-fucked". The no-nonsense, "snap out of it" approach is inappropriate in the beginning of the therapy relationship.

I hope she gets someone a lot gentler who can help her come to this conclusion on her own.

[TankLV]

88. Let's see - maybe I have some empathy for her somewhere...NOPE!

sorry.

Nothing.
Nada.
Zilch.

And I believe the story, because there's a few repukes at work - and these are professional ARCHITECTS with college degrees! - who feel the same way!!! And I mean the same way...

It's so fucking FUN to watch them completely lose it and grasp at every little "phoney birthcertificate he's never gonna reach the inauguration" shit that's out there...!

And I gently twist the RUSTY knife in a little further for them by reminding them "That's PRESIDENT Barack HUSSEIN Obama for YOU!"

They go absolutely apeshit...

I must admit they've become a LOT more quieter these past few days...

[shadowknows69]

89. Actually Bush caused me quite a bit of real psychological damage

But not because of race, because of teh stoopid.