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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:37 AM
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What is with all the Obama bashing around here..?
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 08:37 AM by S_E_Fudd
Oh sure it is diguised as Hillary criticism.

But if Hillary really is as bad a pick for SoS as it appears some believe (assuming she is the choice), they must have a very very low opinion of Obama's decision making skills...or think he has just another tired pol selling out to the Clinton/DLC wing of the party...

Too bad, I think Obama is doing a nice job on the transition so far
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:40 AM
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1. Geezus.
:banghead:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:42 AM
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4. Bunny- you are going to hurt your head if you keep doing that!
Try this instead

:donut:

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:44 AM
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10. Thanks Marrah!
:donut: ahhh.

Is it just me? I cant believe its this bad around here right now.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:57 AM
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18. Nope not just you
Maybe if we all just alert when these posters stir the pot then someone will make them stop.

They aren't really Obama supporters or Hillary supporters. They are just rabble rousers who hated one or the other and can't or won't let it go.

I'm just trying to ignore them all so I don't end up banned...LOL.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:02 AM
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22. :)
Its like the worst of both sides have come back to torture us.

I think you're on to something though... we can ingore them and just sit back and watch as they fight each other. hehe. We can even start a pool on which one will get banned first! :rofl:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:07 AM
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27. But I can't watch!
I put them all on ignore!

I'll watch you watch them!

:popcorn:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:10 AM
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29. lol.
deal! :popcorn:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:40 AM
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2. You see, once again, now that the election is over
Bill and Hillary have no place in the Democratic Party. They are evil DLC'ers that eat babies. In fact the DOJ has completely buried a film of the Clinton's actually eating a newborn baby. But because the Clintons are so close with Bush, that tape has not seen the light of day now for over 16 years.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:42 AM
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6. This made me lol!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:43 AM
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8. You do know that.....
.... some folks won't get your sarcasm and actually agree with you, right?

:rofl:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:54 AM
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17. Oh, No! I'm series!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:50 AM
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14. Nothing wrong with that. Every good Dem has eaten a baby or two in their lifetime.
I mean... what choice do we have? Its right in the ultra-top-secret Democrat Rule scroll. Paragraph 147 sec. c-2 - The mandatory baby eating clause.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:00 AM
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20. I draw the line at kitten and puppy eating, though
Even if it's Hillary.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:03 AM
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23. Definitely.
I mean, we might be baby-eaters, but pets? PETS?! Hell no. How could we live with ourselves if we did that? :shrug:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:03 AM
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24. OMG! Here's Hillary picking out a snack!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:10 AM
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30. THAT'S IT -- I'M CHANGING MY AVATAR!!!!!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:11 AM
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31. And it was such a cute little puppy! n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:15 AM
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32. It looks nice and meaty
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:18 AM
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33. But tender, unlike those who have been running around the back yard
for years.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:49 AM
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41. Milk-fed puppy dog v. Free Range
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 09:49 AM by LostinVA
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:50 AM
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15. I think that the Saudis and BCCI also have something to do
with that film remaining concealed.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:01 AM
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21. The Clinton Library donors list holds the clue
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:05 AM
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26. I heard Juanita Broaddrick is the only one who knows the true story! n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:10 AM
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28. Damn! I lost a bet
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:41 AM
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3. No matter how smart you are, NO ONE is infallible.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:42 AM
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5. I don't get it either -- why vote for someone whose opinion you doubt so much?
Obama wasn't my first choice at all, but I voted for him for President, and urged others to do the same. If I thought he was either: stupid, easily manipulated, tied to a Cronyism position, etc., I NEVER would have voted for him, even with Palin in the mix.

So, why can't Day One Obama supporters give him as much support and respect as I do?

And, as everyone knows, I do NOT want HRC as SOS, although I think she would do a fine job if allowed to by the Media. But, if PE Obama does think she is the one he wants, then we should all wait and see.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:43 AM
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7. I haven't noticed any such thing - maybe I'm naive ?
I too think Mr Obama is doing a nice job on the transition so far
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:44 AM
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9. He's doing fine.
I think some people are shocked that he isn't setting up a Liberal Paradise. (which would be foolish, right out of the gate)

Other's are shocked that he is borrowing so heavily from the Clinton pool (which any Democrat would be doing)

Deep down I think many have lost their faith in Obama. (which reflects on how little they know about politics)

He's doing fine.


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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:27 AM
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35. Faith? What the hell does faith have to do with it?
I do not hold 'faith' in politicians. It was never there to become lost, because having faith in a politician is downright stupid in my book. Childish, serf like and Bushian. Any politician who asks for or expects 'faith' from voters is far out of line. If they earn it, they may gain my trust. That trust can also be lost.
Earned trust is what a politician should ask for and what they should seek to deserve. Faith in politicians is only for the servile.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:45 AM
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11. Amusing as some Hillary supporters all of a sudden think we should not criticize Obama.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 08:45 AM by Mass
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:21 AM
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34. Or just take a moment to point out hypocrisy?

:shrug:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:30 AM
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36. What hypocrisy. Not believing HRC is the best choice for state is not being hypocritical.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 09:34 AM by Mass
I disagree she is and am not bashing Obama for that. Just stating my opinion. Or are you thinking I should not just because it is about her.

I did not see the same people who are protesting here protesting when people were stating their reason against Kerry or Richardson at State, last week, before the Hillary story was leaked (by whoever leaked it). Some were just as freeperish as some reasons I have seen posted for Hillary. May be this is where the hypocrisy lies.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:04 AM
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42. To be more clear--
I meant hypocrisy of former HRC bashers who potentially find the choice acceptable (if and) because Pres-elect Obama says so. Don't know if that includes you.

Thankfully, I see BOTH of them as able to rise above that type of self-limiting attitude. Seems like Kerry and Richardson could and would also. We surely need a SOS who can....



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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:48 AM
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12. Unfortunately, there are people who are happiest...
kibbitzing and complaining-- every silver lining MUST have a cloud.

They are largely irrelevant and their opinions are useless. They are best ignored.



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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:49 AM
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13. I think there are messages on other boards that say "If you don't like Hillary, go to
DU and you'll find lots of hate and discontent over there... an enjoyable the slime fest."
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:51 AM
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16. No! You gave the secret away!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:57 AM
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19. Some people will always see the glass as half empty
Obama is brilliant to me. He does not let petty fights during a campaign bother him, it all fall off his back. He even met with McLame! He is picking experienced people to help him in the transition. Anyone remember Bill Clinton's transition? I was 17 and still remember what it was like, lots of problems because he hired a bunch of Arkansas friends. Bush hired a bunch of Texas cronies. Experience matters and Obama knows this. Sheesh. And the Hillary thing. She was never my favorite person but I have come to respect her after she campaigned and raised money for Barack. I defend her on here and get accused of being a Hillary supporter when I voted for Obama in the primaries. I don't know. Obama never said he would be ultra left wing. He is not Dennis Kucinich so why are some people expecting that? He has always been slightly to the left of Bill Clinton. He never pretended to be anything other then that. And his change message is this, stop the fighting and blaming, and work with people. Is what he is doing different then what he said? For God Sakes, no more Shrub and a Dem is in the White House. I am STILL celebrating. I need a drink. Or several.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:32 AM
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37. People are getting fearful again
Feelings that PE Obama may just be "another politician" might be creeping into the back of their minds. I'm not saying those feelings are correct. Considering the track record of both political parties I can't say I don't understand it.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:33 AM
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38. What's with all the Clinton bashing around here?
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 09:34 AM by Deep13
She did a lot more than anyone had a right to expect for the Obama ticket and probably pulled in a few extra states as a result. Besides, after the rabid, quasi-religious devotion I have seen for Obama on this website and in the real world, it is a bit disturbing to see so many saying he has somehow lost his mind. Obama is the guy you and ultimately the country picked. Some of us warned you that he was not a knee-jerk liberal. Did you pick him to run the actual United States or just be your radical rubber-stamp?

I voted for Obama because he sounded sane and rational, not because he agreed with me on everything. So far, I have not been disappointed. I cannot point to a single thing Obama has done wrong so far.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:38 AM
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39. By "You" do you mean me? (the OP)
Of a general "You" to Obama supporters...

Because I agree with you here (the point of my post)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:40 AM
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40. I mean DU Obama-critics.
Sorry for the confusion. I should have been more clear.
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