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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:31 AM
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Obama staffer involved with SoS process, "He offered her the job."
Clinton seems poised to take the job, as both sides have steadily shared with reporters the details of an unusually – for Obama – public process. Democrats on both sides said that the remaining obstacle is working out the details of an arrangement that would allow the former president to maintain a public role while ending his dealings with foreign governments and his foundation's financial transactions with public and private foreign policy players.

Members of Clinton's circle say they've felt little resistance from Obama's aides as the two sides work out the details of what could one of the great political deals of the century, if something short of a love affair.

"They are being very matter of fact about removing the obstacles," said a Democrat close to Clinton. "The attitude is, 'Our boss wants us to work this out, so lets work it out.'" A former Clinton aide said Clinton appears likely to accept the job if the details of her husband's future can be resolved, and that the discussions of how exactly to restructure Bill Clinton's charitable ventures doesn't appear to pose a substantial obstacle, though another Democrat said she's said Clinton is personally "conflicted."

One person who apparently has shown no ambivalence: Obama. "It's not like he hedged his bets in conversation with her," said a person involved in the process. While both sides say the situation
remains fluid, this person said Obama was quite direct: "He offered her the job."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081118/pl_politico/15703


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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:35 AM
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1. whether or not he offered her the job, didn't offer her the job, etc
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 09:37 AM by ErinBerin84
I think it's kind of....unprofessional for all of these people to be speaking out about it. This goes for both the aides speaking in favor and unfavorably about it....I just question why everyone is blabbing. How do we know that the one "person involved in the process" is not the same person who is blabbing to other outlets that it was an "offer", because other aides are not saying as much. And I tend not to trust Politico.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:57 AM
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2. Obama's team had said there would be no announcements on cabinet posts
until after Thanksgiving, but no sooner had they said that than this stuff about Hillary started to leak, and now we're to believe it's a done deal? It's a very strange way to do things, at least for Obama. Why did he all of a sudden refuse to consider Kerry? Why did he even waste Richardson's time with a token meeting? This seems very unlike him--no one was discussing Hillary as SOS, and then all of a sudden it's a great idea and he offered it to her without interviewing anyone else? Makes me wonder what is really going on with this.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:13 AM
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5. You have to wonder 1st if any of this is true, and 2nd what did Bush say to him privately
on Monday that would have caused Obama to shift on such an important appointment.

Bushes DO trust the Clintons to protect their secrecy and privilege along with the the secrecy needed by the Dubai and Saudi Royals on all their global operations.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:27 AM
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6. That's a good point--what exactly is influencing this decision? And WHY do
all the GOPers/neocons seem thrilled? I hate to seem paranoid, but I really didn't see this coming--not one person brought her up as potential SoS, because she didn't seem a natural fit for the position--why is it such a hot idea now? Was Obama thinking of her all this time, or did he shift suddenly?
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:36 AM
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10. Privately...Bush told Obama...
...To remember to always put the toilet seat down because if Michelle is anything like Laura....

You are thinking too much. Watch some Food Network for a while.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:01 AM
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12. Are you so unfamiliar with how many serious matters of Bush1's illegal operations were deep-sixed
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 11:03 AM by blm
throughout the 90s? Are you unaware that a former Australian president stated HIS life was threatened by Quayle speaking for Poppy? You think that was just one single act that was never repeated by BushInc?

You think Poppy Bush, Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich, Dubai and Saudi Royals named in BCCI and IranContra were able to continue their illegal operations throughout the 90s because they were legitimate endeavors?
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:15 PM
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17. Good grief... n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:07 AM
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3. All the speculation is what frustrates me.
I trust Obama to put together a great team. It's the breathless media speculation that's getting to me. It's so over the top. And it's only happening for the SOS appointment. I haven't heard diddly squat about other cabinet positions. If there has been speculation, it's been drowned out by the SOS frenzy.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:06 AM
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13. If this is happening I believe they are doing it the right way.
They know there would be conflicts of interest as it stands now. Obama is offering the position with conditions. If conditions are not met Obama does/should not suffer consequences.

This would/should not irritate real Hillary supporters because they should understand the rational of why those obstacles need to be removed before Hillary is allowed to accept the position. The Clinton haters will have less ammo on Obama because they won't be able to legitimately use any possible conflict of interests as an issue.

Putting this out for all to see makes it more difficult for Republicans to defend their action because they will make themselves look like fools to more people.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:11 AM
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4. Not sure the OP title is correct
That quote was loosely attributed to a person within the Clinton organization.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:28 AM
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7. And this person is whom, exactly. Other people involved, just as anonymous, actually stated that he
did not accept the job.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:30 AM
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8. Obama probably said something like this: "You've got the job if we can work out the Bill issues"
And it sure looks like they are working that out.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:30 AM
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9. Awesome To Hear!!! Thanks For Posting!
Go Hillary!

:bounce:
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:01 AM
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11. Well that sucks the big one
What a major disappointment. I voted for him to get rid of her....and the Clenis. 16 years was enough. The Tuzla sniper liar for SOS? What a crock of shit.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:15 AM
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14. It is apparently necessary for Obama to do it this way,
I mean publicly, to deflate the arguments from the left or anti Hillary group.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:35 PM
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18. It happened this way because Hillaryland is leaking like a sieve to steamroll over Richardson/Kerry
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 12:02 AM by ClarkUSA
Sorry, but "the left or anti Hillary group" is Obama's base and why he won against the DLC or
pro Hillary group that thought he wasn't experienced enough/too naive/just a speech/too
green/should wait his turn/was too weak, too uppity, not respectful/would never win white
working class voters, Hispanic voters, Jewish voters/too liberal... so I think it's funny that
you think Obama would stiff us, the people responsible for his win against Hillary and
McCain. Gimme a break.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:16 AM
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15. I just read a thread about some woman who actually fell for a Nigerian scammer...
this might be true. But my bullshit detector is going off.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:20 AM
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16. TPM's Greg Sargent reports Obamaland feels Hillary would be a 'team player.'
My own sense from talking to foreign policy types in touch with Obama's people is that Obamaland thinks Hillary has the requisite global stature for the gig and also is enough of a genuine team player to function well in Obama's cabinet -- a view that's markedly at odds with the "Clintons will undermine Obama from within" type commentary we keep hearing.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/reactions_to_secretary_of_stat.php
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:37 PM
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20. Yep. Look at her past senatorial place.
Many have said that she plays along and is compromising and understanding.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:40 PM
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28. Unfortunately for most of it she played along with Bush, while Bill got his back on Iraq war
decisions that other Dems were attacking him for, even during the 2004 campaign.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:37 PM
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19. Your OP is wrong. It was not an Obama staffer. Sounds like a Clinton advocate leaking like a sieve
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 11:38 PM by ClarkUSA
To create inevitability, doncha know?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:41 PM
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21. Ben Smith is a Clinton advocate?
Could be that way from the text on his blog but I'm too lazy to go back very far to confirm.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:52 PM
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23. No. Read the OP. It's obvious that an Obama staffer did not make the statement.
The OP is a Hillary for SoS cheerleader who is deliberately misleading DUers with a false subject line.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:03 AM
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24. Ben Smith is the writer who made this claim. Some blogs (particularly media matters) don't...
...consider it too reliable (anonymous sources and all). But because Ben Smith works for the AP I tend to trust the crediblity a tiny bit. Just a bit.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:25 AM
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26. No he didn't. Now you're deliberately misleading DUers as well.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 12:26 AM by ClarkUSA
Not surprising. Must be catching among the Hillary for SoS crowd. Grasping at any straw, I guess.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:04 AM
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25. "Obama staffer" "person involved in the process" whily not exactly the same thing, hardly a sin.
The gist is maintained.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:28 AM
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27. The OP is patently false. I guess telling lies is not a sin for some...
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 12:29 AM by ClarkUSA
The gist is wrong. It is BS. But I guess you don't mind as you're all about Hillary and anti-Obama. I get it. Now stop stalking me
or else I'll report you to the mods.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:59 PM
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30. How does liking Hillary make someone anti-Obama
and you are the person who stalks all the Hillary threads.
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mollymongold Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:13 PM
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32. don't bother...this poster is on all out panic and lash-out mode right now...
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 08:16 PM by mollymongold
it's rather fun to watch.
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mollymongold Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:12 PM
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31. edit.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 08:13 PM by mollymongold
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:43 PM
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22. I would love for Bill to fall on the sword for Hillary, just this one time....
... dont take this the wrong way, I LOVE both of them. But how superawesome would it be for Bill to give up something that was important to him so that Hillary can have something (we may presume) she wants.

You know it would make up for ...... well, you know. ;)
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:50 PM
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29. Yep. She'll carry out Obama's agenda unlike that loser Kerry or Judas Richardson
:sarcasm:
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