Chris Dodd is up for re-election in 2010

[WeDidIt]

Time to target his seat for a primary challenge after he backed Lieberman.

Evan Bayh is, too.

[Skwmom]

1. A caller on C-SPAN said he killed a bill that would have capped interest

rates on credit cards. Is that true?

[karynnj]

72. No it isn't _ Dodd voted yes on that amendment and NO on the bill itself

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00020

There were many good Senators who did vote against that amendment - then voted against the bankruptcy bill itself - this came up in the Presidential debate. The limit was 30% and there was concern that it could lead to conflict with states that had lower limits and better protection. The Senators who voted against it for this reason included many from very blue atates - such as Obama and Durbin.

[gaiilonfong]

2. you mean Ol' I PROMISE TO FILIBUSTER FISA Dodd???

who didn't filibuster, who has been a LIEberman enabler.....who puts on a good show and then does crap

Yes that one, I will contribute the max to anyone who will run against him

He has become as bad as LIEberman

[WeDidIt]

3. Yep, that Senator Chris Dodd

Time to go after that seat in a primary challenge.

[Eric J in MN]

6. Dodd filibustered, but cloture passed. NT

NT

[EconomicLiberal]

7. Dodd attempted to filibuster FISA.

WTF are you talking about? Do you enjoy making things up?

[John Q. Citizen]

9. He did filibuster FISA. Cloture was invoked. Learn your history before you start with the righteous

outrage.

Your lack of facts mixed with angry vitriol makes you look like one of those 'morans' from some other site.



i wish Dodd realized how wrong he is about Lieberman. It's a bad move not to re-assign his chairmanship.

[gaiilonfong]

19. Get YOUR facts straight.

He did not follow thru on his filibuster.
He claimed he would.
He said he would talk for days and DIDN'T, that is when the cloture vote was called
A REAL filibuster is done aty all costs .....someone like Dodd aka the Dem Arlen Spector just spews his hot air and doesn't follow thru.
He has been the biggest LIEberman enabler in Conn....ENOUGH

[John Q. Citizen]

26. Why would anyone invoke cloture, if there wasn't a filibuster? That's a procedural

vote used to end a filibuster.

Why would anyone vote to end what hadn't begun?


I'd worry more about Martinez, if I were you. He is going down dude. Whether you like it or not!

[gaiilonfong]

36. Why would I worry about Martinez?

He stinks so if he goes down no problem.

[gaiilonfong]

37. Why would I worry about Martinez?

He stinks so if he goes down no problem.

[karynnj]

75. A Sentor can not filibuste by talking for days

The current Senate rules don't work that way.

[Alexander]

81. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Dodd filibustered. Not enough Democrats supported him. Cloture is part of a filibuster.

Next time, learn more about what you're talking about before you humiliate yourself.

[still_one]

38. He is putting his friendship of lieberman ahead of what is best for the country, and that

is very wrong

[John Q. Citizen]

51. i think he's wrong on Lieberman but it's also understandable. The Senate is all

about personal relationships. If we want it to be about something else we sure set it up wrong.

My Senator, Baucus, probably has a heck of a lot more to say about whether Lieberman keeps his chair or not than Dodd does.

I wrote Max and asked him to vote to remove Lieberman from his chairmanship. We will see what happens.


If they don't remove Lieberman, i predict it will cost the Dems as a whole. It will cost them politically and it will cost them in actual power in the Senate, because Lieberman will work against them from within. That's what i think.

Anyway, we will see.

(edited to add) I could even see giving Lieberman some subcommittee that's relevant to his state. Just so he has a reason. Save some face.

But the chair of the Homeland Security ought to go to someone who was willing to do over site on the bush crime family. I'd give it to Bernie Sanders if it was up to me. Keep it in the hands of an independent.

[still_one]

52. When someone called the President Elect anti-American, and a risk to our security

it isn't about personal relationships anymore, it is about integrity

I agree it will cost them when lieberman stabs in the back

[karynnj]

76. What was the position of that President-elect ?

Don't you think that his statement had an effect.

[karynnj]

74. He did filibuster

Senate rules are not like they were when "Mr Smith Goes to Washington" was written. The way that filibusters are done are to have enough Senators behind you that the people who want it passed can not get 60 votes for cloture. This means you need 41 Senators on your side willing to vote no or not vote at all.

A single Senator can not filibuster - on the first vote, Dodd only had a total of 10 willing to vote against the first cloture vote wich was to allow the bill to be considered.

[Alexander]

86. Don't bother. You're dealing with an idiot who doesn't even know what "cloture" means.

[sellitman]

4. I am not a one issue voter.

I disagree with his backing LIEberman but Dodd has been a great Senator in my State.

I will not throw him off the bus for his vote.

[gaiilonfong]

15. BUT I WILL

There is already talk in Conn of having a primary challenge for him
He deserves it, he is a LOSER

[John Q. Citizen]

20. Who is planing on running against him?

[WeDidIt]

27. somebody will

count on it.

[LynneSin]

59. But it seems all the folks from CT who have posted in this thread think otherwise

You want to make the senate a better place - how about Kansas? Sam Brownback is retiring and we could get Gov Kathleen Seibilus in there with a great dem pick up. Or what about Arizona? McCain is looking weak and Gov. Janet Napolitiano might take a run for that seat. There are 2 very popular democratic governors who could do very well with these seats.

I have a feeling that Arlen Specter could be retire which would blow open a seat for easy pickup for the democrats in Pennsylvania. Dems are winning these statewide races by 10 points and do we really want Tweety as a Senator?

And now Alaska is looking like it's in play. Lisa Murkowski is not popular and associated with the corruption that is the Alaskan Republican party. How about helping former Gov. Tony Knowles do another run against her and give Alaska 2 blue senators?

Have you seen the preliminary polling numbers for Mel Martinez in Florida? He's running neck-n-neck with about 10 different democratic choices to run against him in 2010. Let's get Florida back in the blue column totally!

Point is - there are about a dozen great opportunities for us to pick up more democrat seats and knock of some republicans and you'll waste your money on Chris Dodd?

:rofl:

Make sure you have a fire extinguisher handy for when you burn that money

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2010#Republican_incumbents

[Alexander]

82. Good thing you don't live in CT.

I'd hate to think your ignorance could help decide my home state's Senate race.

[Bad Thoughts]

5. Intra-Party Strife is less fun when only the Rethugs get to do it. EOM.

[stray cat]

8. Who is running against Obama and Biden in 2012 - didn't they want to keep Leiberman?

[WeDidIt]

11. Keep him in the caucus

they didn't say a word about the chairmanship.

[4_Legs_Good]

77. I believe Lieberman threatened to leave if he didn't get the Chairmanship

so it's kinda the same thing.

David

[Renew Deal]

10. Ummmm, no.

Try again

[WeDidIt]

13. You're welcome to your opinion

I'm putting $25/week away to donate to his cahllenger in the primary.

[Renew Deal]

22. Good luck finding a challenger to donate to.

Get a clue. Dodd did fillibuster FISA. Dodd is loved in CT. There will be no one to donate to. Oh wait, you can donate the republican.

[WeDidIt]

25. He'll have a challenger

since he backed Lierbeman and Lieberman is now despised in Connecticut, there will be a challenger.

[Renew Deal]

32. Are you running?

:shrug:

[WeDidIt]

35. Not me

somebody will.

Dodd's approval ratings are at 43% right now.

Somebody will cahllenge him in the primary.

[LynneSin]

65. Have you read any of the replies from CT Duers

First of 43% is pretty respectable knowing that our senate is like at 20%.

And second - not one DUer from Connecticut supports your idea. I trust their opinions and reasonings much more than yours. Dodd has a close relationship with the man he has served with in CT for ages and I respect that. We have the same thing here in Delaware and that even includes our lone representative Mike Castle who is republican. Do you know that I have never once seen Biden or Carper campaign against Mike Castle. Nor has Mike Castle, a very popular person in blue Delaware, ever thought of going after Carper or Biden's seat even though he knows he's the one person who could give either of those 2 a run for the money in an election.

It's a state thing and perhaps moreso a small state thing. I really do appreciate your enthusiasm and the willingness to spend a ton of money but honestly - he's not a target worth going after especially since he is one of the more progressive dems in the senate.

[mmonk]

12. I will counter you with donations to his reelection bid.

He's worth more than a handful of Democrats that supported bush administrations abuses of power.

[WeDidIt]

14. Okay, it'll hurt, but now I'll put away $50/week

for Dodd's challenger.

[onenote]

16. I guess when you say IWantAnyDem you mean something else?

Also, how much are you putting aside for a primary challenge to Obama, since he's signaled that he thinks Joe should be accomodated?

[wyldwolf]

21. this is where he launches into a lecture of what a "real Democrat" is...

[WeDidIt]

24. Primaries are FAIR GAME

HAven't you heard?

[wyldwolf]

28. sure they are

:shrug:

[mmonk]

39. Why not target Democrats who didn't stand in the way

of unConstitutional measures? You'll target Dodd, one of the few that continued to fight just because of Lieberman? Dodd is in an unenviable position when it comes to Lieberman. You need to cut him some slack for standing up for your birthright.

[WeDidIt]

42. I will donate to Dodd's primary challenger

because he just stabbed every democrat in the back.

Just like Joe did.

[mmonk]

44. If you had chosen an ally of the neoconservatives to target, I wouldn't

have bothered posting in this thread against your position. However, I will stand with Dodd.

[WeDidIt]

45. Well, I'm saving now

so I can donate the max to Dodd's primary challenger.

[mmonk]

46. Good for you.

:rofl:

peace

[WeDidIt]

23. Um, I want a Dem

That's why I'll be donating to Dodd's challenger in the PRIMARY.

[wyldwolf]

29. like I said in post #21... it didn't take you long to suggest Dodd isn't a real Democrat

[WeDidIt]

30. Click

[LynneSin]

62. $50 a week for Dodd's challenger. Glad the economic times haven't hit you

Save your money or send it to me if you have that much money to spend on nothing

[wyldwolf]

17. LOL...

Tell me when these asinine primary challenges have ever worked?

What activists forget is that Senate and House races are NOT national elections. The "targets" are usually very popular with the electorate that actually gets to vote for them. Just ask Cindy Sheehan.

[w4rma]

18. Dodd hasn't backed LIEberman. He refused to state which way he will vote, to my knowledge. (nt)

[Critters2]

73. Lieberman thanked 4 Senators for speaking on his behalf.

Dodd was the first one he named. If I lived in CT, that would be all I need to know.

[w4rma]

80. You're right. (nt)

[WI_DEM]

31. No, I like Chris Dodd...but do what you want.

[WeDidIt]

33. Poll Finds Dwindling Approval Ratings For Dodd, Lieberman

Poll Finds Dwindling Approval Ratings For Dodd, Lieberman

By MARK PAZNIOKAS | The Hartford Courant
October 28, 2008

A new poll finds Connecticut's two U.S. senators battered and vulnerable as they approach difficult crossroads in their long public careers.

The job approval ratings of Sens. Christopher J. Dodd and Joseph I. Lieberman fell below 43 percent this month, placing both men in a political danger zone.

The problem is especially acute for Dodd, a key player in the federal response to the financial services crisis, who is gearing up to seek re-election in 2010 for a record sixth term.

Link to full article

Strike while the iron is hot.

[still_one]

34. Anyone who supports lieberman retention of his chairmanship believes that calling Obama

anti-American is OK.

Well, it isn't OK. Actions have consequences

lieberman's actions have consequences. He is NOT a Democrat

dodd is putting what is good for the nation behind his friendship with lieberman, and that is not tolerable

I agree, though observing the STUPIDITY of Connecticut in electing lieberman in the first place, does not give me much hope

[grantcart]

40. munch munch munch oh boy I love to eat my own munch munch yummmy

[WeDidIt]

47. If there aren't to be any primary challenges

why have primaries? Just announce the candidates by party decree.

[grantcart]

56. I got an idea - why don't you run for something?

[TexasObserver]

41. Nope, I don't go for that.

Chris Dodd is a soldier for the party. I don't agree with everything he does, but I know he's decent.

[Jennicut]

43. I am a CT voter and I have no problem with Dodd

If a primary challenger came along I liked better I would vote for them, if not then its Dodd. I detest Loserman but maybe he will retire. He is dislked and mistrusted on both sides. Dodd has always been a good senator for us in CT. He has always been Loserman's friend. Who cares about Loserman. He is not so powerful as to take Obama down with anything. He is just a loser Senator no side really likes. He has got to go somewhere. You guys are giving him too much importance. No committee chairman is that powerful.

[LynneSin]

54. Seriously!

I wouldn't waste 5 cents on trying to unseat Christopher Dodd. You know there are still 40 republicans and one Lieberman out there that we could better spend our money on unseating. Trying to give Dodd the boot - might as well take my money and light a match to it since that's all I would be doing.

[zulchzulu]

48. Chris Dodd is a good guy... he'll do just fine

As for Bayh...

[gaiilonfong]

49. Dodd has become an IDIOT

and an enabler of crappy policy.
The people of Conn now favor him by 37% he is on his way out

GOOD FRIGGIN RIDDANCE to the LIEberman enabler

[Jennicut]

55. Its 42% in the Quinnipiac poll not 37% I don't see myself voting against Dodd

come 2010. He has always been progressive. My main problem is his Countrywide loans. He needs to come clean about that. But all money in my state should be spent at unseating Loserman if he decides to run again, not on Dodd.

[zulchzulu]

78. Dodd is not an idiot, ferchrissakes...

You may not agree with his Lieberman BS... me neither... but he stands for a lot more than one single issue where he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

It's friggin' politics... horse trading... punting in this case...

[sharp_stick]

50. Of course

there isn't anything more important than this issue, oh no, that's it. Damn the rest of it, I'm going after anybody that backed the shithead Jr. Senator from CT. What a epic waste of time and bandwidth.

Chris Dodd will not be challenged by any serious contender for his seat in 2010, you can bookmark that if you want, hell I'll even put money on it.

Chris Dodd will walk to re-election if he chooses to run again.

[LynneSin]

53. How about you play your money smart and help get a democrat in Lieberman's seat?

Dodd is one of the most progressive senators out there and very popular in his home state.

But hell if you're willing to put all this money aside for a reason as silly at this - well it's your money to spend.

Me - I think Pennsylvania, Kansas and Arizona will be up for play and would like to get those senate seats turning blue.

[Jennicut]

57. Yup. Target Loserman. Dodd is a good Senator for us.

[LynneSin]

60. A few years ago someone posted in the Delaware forum about unloading Biden

:rofl:

It's like why? The guy is a solid democrat but not perfect. To remove Biden would blow that seat wide open for republican target.

[Jennicut]

66. What a dumb thing to do. Dems are Dems to me. Loserman is an independent

and I don't care what happens to him. Dems are Dems until they decide otherwise, not every Dem has to fit into what they want them to be, people have their own views. I love that Biden will be VP, Hillary could be our SoS, and Obama is going to be our prez. Do they agree on everything, no. But they can all get along as they are Dems.

[LynneSin]

69. If I want a candidate that agrees with my ideologies 100% then I should run for office

everyone else is a compromise

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

58. ROFLMAO!!! Good Luck With That!

[calico1]

61. And he will get my vote. n/t

[LynneSin]

64. How silly all the CT DUers say they would vote for Dodd - are they insane???!!!....

or perhaps they know what they want in a senator and like the guy. You're like the 4th person from CT to stand up against this idiotic thread which is far more powerful of a statement than someone who demands we need to oust Dodd over his friendship with Lieberman.

[AlCzervik]

84. look at the op's screen name, the irony is thick.

[high density]

63. Your Lieberman litmus test is petty

That guy is simply not that important.

[Clio the Leo]

67. And Obama is up for re-election in 2012, shall we target him too?

For supporting Lieberman (at least in regard to keeping his chairmanship.)

Yeah ..... didn't think so.

[calico1]

68. In our last Senate race here in CT,

Barbara Boxer came and campaigned her heart out for Lieberman. Even though we had a Democratic candidate.

Is she going on the hit list too?

:eyes:

[MadBadger]

70. HELL NO

[karynnj]

71. Dodd backed Lamont in the general election

and took a lot of flack from Leiberman for actively working for Lamont, which is MORE than many Democrats who remained neutral or gave very very weak support.

I think all Democratic Senators, other than Feingold and Kerry - Kerry, remained neutral and I think Feingold did do, though some comments could have been interpreted as pro-Lamont. Those were UNUSUAL actions, the norm in the primary was to support Leiberman Senator Boxer and Sentor Biden went to CT to campaign for him in the primary. Bill Clinton had a HUGE rally in CT for him very near the August primary, where he gave him a better endorsement focused on Leiberman than the ones he gave Gore or Kerry. He also did robocalls for him. Dodd was in the mainstream of official Democrats in backing Leiberman in the primary.

In the general election, many Democrats continued to back Leiberman. Others, the Clintons included, backed Lamont, but very weakly. Bill Clinton, who did little for Lamont, said on Larry King Life, that it was a win win situation. Dodd was one of the people who very actively supported Lamont - probably only Kerry and Clark did more.

Not to mention - remember FISA? Dodd took a strong position on that. Remember the torture bill? Dodd, whose Dad was one of Judges at Nuremberg, gave an eloquent speech - one of the best. Healthcare? Dodd and Kerry were an orignial co-sponsors of S-CHIP, sponsored by Kennedy and Hatch, Family Leave Act? - that was Dodd's. Dodd also was the sponsor of the banking bill this summer which gave money for affordable housing and money to help the states renegotiate mortgages that are in foeclosure. Who is Dodd's closest ally and friend in the Senate? Kennedy His record is closer to Kennedy's than to Leiberman's.

[budkin]

79. All these self serving senators need to go... BUH BYE!

[AlCzervik]

83. how about working on getting rid of the the republicans? "Iwantanydem" FAIL

[Alexander]

85. Over 40 Senators backed Lieberman. Are you going to target them all?

:eyes:

Please.