Even though Lieberman kept his chairmanship, you guys should realize something. . .

[wndycty]

. . .he had to sweat his ass off, he had to beg, he had to plead.

LOL and when the press just asked for a statement from Lieberman Reid wouldn't let him answer. . .LOL

Lieberman moved up to speak and Lieberman said he could speak later.

Reid is slapping him around to the press right now. . .LOL

[Skidmore]

1. Lieberman is standing back about 3 rows in this cluster

and grinning his ass off like the Cheshire cat. He's not sweating anything.

[Critters2]

2. Now the fuckwad is speaking.

I'm calling Durbin to scream!!

[wndycty]

7. You know nothing. . .

. . .he knows his ass was in the firing line and he is on a short leash and they pull his chairmanship at anytime.

[Skidmore]

15. And you know?

What infraction does he have to commit for them to censure him? Kill babies in the Senate chamber?

[wndycty]

20. So do you really think he walked into the meeting and everyone patted him on the back?

Do you think he didn't have to lobby his ASS OFF?

Do you think he didn't have to cut numerous deals?

Do you think he is popular? Do you think he knows he is on borrowed time?

[Skidmore]

24. I don't think that craven fool

is capable of doing more than navel-gazing.

[Critters2]

26. There's no evidence otherwise. Not a whit. nt

[eleny]

25. Not vote according to Obama's wishes

He does that and he's worthless.

[Elidor]

58. Sadly, no

The republicans will filibuster any vote on Joe's removal once the Senate is in session.

But go ahead and tell us more about how people other than you are ignorant.

[Ichingcarpenter]

60. "they pull his chairmanship at anytime."

The next chance to do that is 2010 and 2012
that's when they are assigned during the time in between
the republicans can filibuster it.

[kath]

65. Actually, it would be very difficult for them to pull the chairmanship, and the Repugs can block the

Senate from doing so.

[City Lights]

36. Is this what you're seeing?

:argh:

[Lex]

3. And, remember, they can pull his Chairmanship ANY TIME

if he goes 'all mavericky up in there.'

[themaguffin]

8. i'll believe that they pull it when I see it

[Are_grits_groceries]

21. They can't pull it at any time!

A move like that is subject to filibuster. The Dems did it when the R's wanted
to pull Mark Hatfield years ago.

[Lex]

40. Well, Evan Bayh was wrong the other night on Rachel's show.

nt

[BootinUp]

30. Not true.

It would require a filibuster proof majority.

[Are_grits_groceries]

39. Not for the R's. The Dems would need one to cut the filibuster off.

"It takes a Senate resolution to change a chairmanship, and that resolution could be subject to a filibuster," Paone told the Huffington Post. Put simply, under Bayh's proposed scenario, Republicans would have every reason to filibuster a new Senate resolution taking Lieberman's chairmanship away if he was proving an effective antagonist of President Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/14/bayhs-defense-of-lieberma_n_143863.html

[BootinUp]

41. Isn't that what I said?

[Are_grits_groceries]

46. I'm sorry!

I thought you were responding directly to my post. Didn't mean to offend!!
I didn't understand who would need the majority.

[themaguffin]

4. yeah reid puts on a show, but joe will continue to REALLY slap Obama & Democrats

[TwilightGardener]

5. Sorry, when he campaigned for down-ticket Repubs, it should have been all over for him--

no further deliberation needed.

[Delphinus]

23. Agreed.

He's a traitor to his party.

What does he have on them? That's my only question - what have they done that he knows about that gives him such 'control' over them?

[onefreespiritedchick]

35. Exactly my thought?

I would have kicked his arse out two weeks ago.

[jaxx]

6. This is what Obama wanted.....no vindictiveness.

I trust his judgement.

[wndycty]

11. LOL and Obama is not taking his calls. . .

. . .LOL

[jaxx]

14. Smart man.

Let them hash it out on tv.

[themaguffin]

12. Exactly which is why Joe should not chair, Joe has proven wreckless vindicitiveness

[jaxx]

17. Ah, but who is the bigger man here?

Not Lieberman.

[ProSense]

13. When the Republicans launch smear campaigns against Democrats in 2010

I will remember that it's nothing but politics.

[jaxx]

19. They've given Joe the rope, it's up to him how he uses it.

[w4rma]

72. Rope? LIEberman already used his rope. (nt)

[Diamonique]

59. It's not about vindictiveness.

Joe has been chairman of Homeland Security committee since the mid-term elections of 2006. Since that time he has done zero oversight of the Bush cabal. Bush uses "homeland security" as a cover for no-bid contracts and moving money from the taxpayers to his friends & family. It was Joe's job to handle the oversight. He held no hearings and asked no questions. He didn't do his job.

So -- given what he did during the campaign -- and add the fact that he hasn't performed in his committee chairmanship, there is absolutely no reason to allow him to keep it... none.

[babylonsister]

9. He's speaking now; nothing's changed imo. But NO, Reid, he is NOT

a Democrat.

[Life Long Dem]

10. And sweat he did.

Using forceful, but not angry, hand gestures, Obama literally backed up Lieberman against the wall

[saracat]

33. What Baloney. As soon as Obama said he supported Lieberman continuing to caucus with the Dems it was

a done deal.Lieberman sweated nothing and he was never in danger nor is he now.

[Life Long Dem]

62. I like the idea of Lieberman being an

extra chess piece to prevent the repubs from using the filibuster.

[saracat]

64. I find it ironic that DU posters were banned from this website for posting anti Obama

sentiments during the GE but liberman gets to keep his chairmanship and caucus with the Democratic party after endorsing the GOP Nominee and speaking at the GOP Convention.I guess "loyalty" is overated.

[Alexander]

70. Lieberman's not posting here. You are.

"I find it ironic that DU posters were banned from this website for posting anti Obama sentiments during the GE but liberman gets to keep his chairmanship and caucus with the Democratic party after endorsing the GOP Nominee and speaking at the GOP Convention.I guess "loyalty" is overated."

If this bothers you so much, you're welcome to tell us what you really think of President-elect Obama.

[saracat]

74. Primary wars are over.And I voted for Obama.

[Alexander]

77. So why do you complain about how anti-Obama posters are treated here?

You know, since the primary wars are over and all that.

[Clio the Leo]

16. And now Lieberman is kissing President Obama's hind end.....

... that is ALL I needed to hear.

Let us move on.

[Jennicut]

22. LOL...he went from kissing McLame's butt to kissing Obama's

Joe is a real ass kisser.

[nomaco-10]

18. Sorry, but that is no consolation. Dems were WEAK today. n/t

[LynneSin]

31. Dems did was Obama asked him

And Obama has bigger fish to fry than worry about a loser like Lieberman. And by quoting the Godfather - better to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[nomaco-10]

42. Obama never said lieberliar should keep his HLS chair. n/t

[jaxx]

38. I don't see it that way.

I see as they looked an adversary in the eye and said.....now try it again.

Lieberman lost face today. He knows it, and we know it.

[nomaco-10]

43. He'll still VOTE to SUPPORT the IRAQ WAR everytime. n/t

[jaxx]

47. Now dubya has given in to the timetable deal, it won't matter.

The pubs are going down hard. Lieberman will go down too, just not today.

[nomaco-10]

50. It matters, it all matters. Years of lieberman's backstabbing. IT MATTERS. n/t

[jaxx]

54. I'm not going to give him all that power.

He was one voice out of 100, nothing more.

[AlinPA]

79. And he will vote with McCain everytime. He is tied to McCain and Graham.

[kath]

66. Since when HAVEN'T they been weak? They are a squirming embarassment.

[ErinBerin84]

27. WTF

'There are some statements that people said I made about Obama that I did not make. There are other statements that I wish I had made more clearly. And there are some that I wished I had not said at all."


STF, Joe. And now going on about his independence of mind.

[LynneSin]

28. And just because he's the chair doesn't mean he has full control

Remember it was Obama that wanted us to take the high road. This whole Lieberman thing has become petty.

But here's something I remember about Jefford's last day as a republican. One of the things he talked about in an interview he did was TIME magazine was how the republicans weren't even going to him for committee work (I believe it was Education) but instead were going to the 2nd chair, which was Gregg of New Hampshire. There was some 'Teacher-of-the-year' award that would normally be attended by the committee chair but Jeffords wasn't even told and they sent Gregg instead.

The thing is, if Lieberman doesn't do what we want it's not like we're fucked. Inouye is 2nd in command and could easily do the job too.

But like the OP person stated - it's fun seeing Lieberman being slapped around and humiliated. If Lieberman had a set of balls he's say 'Fuck You' to the dems and pull his association. The fact that he's begging for his job, personally I find hilarious as hell.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

73. I can always count on you to see the forest through the trees.

Great post!! :thumbsup:

[Upton]

29. Only two weeks since the election and already I'm pissed

Lieberman stabbed Obama and the party in the back, if given the opportunity he'll do so again...

[LynneSin]

37. Better to keep your friends close and your enemies closer

Remember it was Obama who asked us to take the high road. Lieberman can be an ally when it comes to the environment, choice, education, healthcare and a host of other progressive issues. I think his Liberal rating is like 83%. But I think Lieberman will be easier to control if we keep him in our camp

[nomaco-10]

44. This isn't a bad rendition of the Godfather. this is real life. n/t

[LynneSin]

51. And just like real life there's alot of shit we don't know

Lieberman is small fries compared to the job ahead of us

[pscot]

55. G hengis Khan said

"Once a man is proven faithless, he can never be trusted." The Khan would have had lieberman sewed up in a carpet and trampled by a squad of cavalry. Serve him right, too.

[Dhalgren]

56. I prefer the Mongols' methods:

"Reward your friends and leave your enemies' corpses to rot in the sun." This "enemies closer" bullshit is just an excuse to show the peasants that they are not in the same league as the bosses. These guys use our anger and our pain for their own ends and when they don't need us any more, we are told to run along and don't get in the way. It is the same all the time and it gets old...

[AlinPA]

80. He will follow McCain on his votes; he worships McCain.

[AyanEva]

52. Pretty much

I think this just basically ruined my entire day.

[WeDidIt]

32. Fuck that noise. When they dun me for money in the future

I return the crap with two words.

Joe Lieberman

[Cha]

61. Yeah, if Reid sends campaign

requests..send it back with "joe LIE-berman" scrawled aross the page.

[Wapsie B]

34. Reid's phone lines should be melting right about now

for all the calls coming in protesting this.

[spanone]

45. sweat is nothing to lieberman.....he retains all his power. reid can play all the games he wants

[mtnsnake]

48. Lieberman will be celebrating tonight how he fucked us & got away with it

and he'll be flipping us off in private again, laughing his rocks off at the same time.

[onehandle]

49. Obama got what he wanted. nt

[ieoeja]

53. Oh, well, as long as the Democrats were rude to him, I guess everything's cool.

Yeah, you don't wanna mess with us! We will call you names and stuff. Take that, you little so-and-so.

We sure did show him a thing or two. And you'll have to excuse my bad language, but gosh darn diddley widdley, he did make us almost angry.

[political_Dem]

57. The vote was still bad, no matter what.

You'd think that after the election, the Democrats would be bold enough to force this interloper and charlatan out of power. It is disgusting that they kept this man in despite all he's done.

I believe that the vote was cynical. And it was inevitable that some deals were made to keep this two-faced cheat.

I won't bring up how there are similarities in the nomination of "another person" to a highly coveted position, but what I will say that there is something rotten in Washington.

Enough is enough. :grr:

I'm convinced that the vote was secret so that the constituents could not find out who voted for what.

[pgh_dem]

63. This was stupid. I can't imagine what makes you "LOL"

There is no leash. He owes President Obama nothing. He owes Harry Reid nothing. He spends a press conference pretending he's sorry for his actions, and when it's over, he gets EVERYTHING HE WANTED.

There is now literally, and legally, no practical recourse if Lieberman decides to open hearings into whether President Obama is secretly funneling money to Al Qaeda. His chairmanship cannot be revoked after the fact, even if it wouldn't be a public relations nightmare to attempt to revoke chairmanship 'just because he dares independently exercise his independent independentness and ask the tough questions about Obama's Al Qaeda connections'.

I can't understand the humor involved in rewarding Joe Lieberman for kicking us in the teeth...again...

[Catherine Vincent]

67. That's not enough.

He needs to suffer for what he did.

[Bryan]

75. "He needs to suffer"?

Yeah, they should have sent a couple of guys with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch around to his office. "Suffer". Christ.

[Neshanic]

68. In a Kabuki Theater kind of way I guess you are right.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

69. Oh yeah they really showed 'im who's boss. Next time he'll get a stern letter for his betrayal. nt

[quakerboy]

71. So what you are saying is that now he has

free reign to go campaign for Chambliss. I expect no less of him.

[demokatgurrl]

76. Bullshit.

Not to be rude. But LIEberman knew he'd come out OK because our party, unfortunately, with the exception of Obama and a FEW others, lacks cojones.

I don't see why it is so fucking important to keep him "in the fold" because he will vote as he sees fit anyway. Any Dem who expects any kind of loyalty from him has their head up their ass.

[Arugula Latte]

78. Joe is the OJ Simpson of the Democrats now.