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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:52 PM
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Obama chooses Holder to serve as AG
President-elect Obama has decided to tap Eric Holder as his attorney general, putting the veteran Washington lawyer in place to become the first African-American to head the Justice Department, according to two legal sources close to the presidential transition.

Holder, who served as deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration, still has to undergo a formal “vetting” review by the Obama transition team before the selection is final and is publicly announced, said one of the sources, who asked not to be identified talking about the transition process. But in the discussions over the past few days, Obama offered Holder the job and he accepted, the source said. The announcement is not likely until after Obama announces his choices to lead the Treasury and State departments.

Holder, 57, has been on Obama’s “short list” for attorney general from the outset. A partner at the D.C. law firm of Covington & Burling, Holder served as co-chief (along with Caroline Kennedy) of Obama’s vice-presidential selection process. He also actively campaigned for Obama throughout the year and grew personally close to the president-elect. Holder has not returned a call seeking comment; the Obama transition team did not respond to e-mail messages.

The sources said the Obama transition team is still debating over who should serve under Holder in the key post of deputy attorney general. One top candidate, favored by Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and other former Clinton White House officials, is Elena Kagan, dean of the Harvard Law School and a former lawyer in the White House counsel’s office under Clinton. Another top candidate, favored by other Obama advisors, is David Ogden, a former chief of staff to Attorney General Janet Reno, who is currently heading Obama’s Justice Department transition team. Kagan brings legal policy credentials; Ogden has more experience in the Justice Department trenches.

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http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/poweringup/archive/2008/11/18/obama-s-attorney-general.aspx
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:54 PM
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1. I'll believe it when it's up on his website. nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:56 PM
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9. Me too! Obama himself warned us not to believe idle chatter.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:34 PM
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50. FWIW, it is on Wikipedia...
On November 18, 2008, President-elect Barack Obama decided to tap Eric Holder as his attorney general, and if his nomination is approved by the U.S. Senate, he will be the first African-American to head the Justice Department. Holder's ascension to the Cabinet will follow the paths of General Colin Powell, who served as Secretary of State in the administration of George W. Bush, and Condoleezza Rice, Powell's successor at State under President Bush, as prominent African-American members of a presidential cabinet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:54 PM
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2. Who cares--he's not Lieberman and he's not Clinton!
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 03:07 PM by Bicoastal
IRRELEVANT!!


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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:36 PM
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53. LOL
:rofl:

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:54 PM
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3. K&R. Good choice!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:54 PM
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4. Well, that's another disappointment
The Repukes will hammer the MArc Rich pardon incessantly during the confirmation hearings.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:55 PM
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6. Except that Bush's pardons will be in the news at the time
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:19 PM
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74. Excellent point
And you just KNOW there are going to be some doozys.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:56 PM
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8. Do they have the votes for any of us to care?
My vote is no
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:06 PM
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18. Lieberman will join them
I'm counting on that.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:20 PM
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41. No he wont
Lieberman is against us on National Security issues, not justice issues. He'll vote with us
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:56 PM
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11. Um, this guy had nothing to do with that. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:07 PM
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20. Um, yes, he did.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:21 PM
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76. Dammit.
x(
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:57 PM
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12. I thought we weren't supposed to worry about what the Repukes think......
which is it? :shrug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:02 PM
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15. Now have concern trolls for cabinet posts.
:banghead:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:17 PM
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36. Fuck that noise
I'm only stating a fact.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:42 PM
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58. Didn't soon to be pardoned Scooter Libby also work on the Rich pardon?
if I'm not mistaken
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:21 PM
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75. Honestly.....who gives a shit what the repukes do
Let 'em bitch and moan. I could care less.

Screw 'em.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:24 PM
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78. So did Scooter Libby. nt
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #4
83. Do they have any microphones left?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:55 PM
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5. Waiting for the woemongers and outragemongers to wail about this choice
I was hoping that he would make this appointment.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:55 PM
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7. The question is--
will Holder clean up Justice and do something about the politicization of the Department? Will he investigate the persecution of the former governor of Alabama, for instance?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:56 PM
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10. Hope it's true. My fingers have been crossed for this one.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:57 PM
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13. It's just a RUMOR! I won't believe it until Obama knocks on my door and tells me personally!!!
Ha ha.


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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:17 PM
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35. Heh.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:58 PM
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14. At first I thought you meant Geoffrey, the
Un-Cola nut guy.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:05 PM
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16. CNN
is confirming this
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #16
57. MSNBC is also confirming it, was offered the position last week
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:06 PM
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17. Meh.
Another Clintonite.

I will say no more.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:09 PM
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22. Anyone worth any salt may have at one point worked for the last
Democratic Administration. Thousands of posts were filled at the time. To believe that most appointees in this new Democratic Administration will not have worked in the previous Democratic Administration is begging that OBama only hires folks straight out of College!

Let's not get besides ourselves on this "Clintonite" label. I think doing so is ill advised.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:13 PM
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26. .
Deputy AG under Clinton. So, next in line under a hypothetical 3rd term. I'll check the guy out and give him a fair shake, but I can't say I'm thrilled (which is fine considering it's not Obama's job to thrill me).

I was hoping for Napolitano, but as with all other appointments, I'm sure Obama has his reasons and they are valid.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:19 PM
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38. I think there were practical problems with nominating Napolitano
One of them being that she may not have wanted the job. The other being that the Lt. Governor in AZ is a puke.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:40 PM
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56. Napolitano was appointed by Clinton
to her post as US Attorney - so, she is another one that is Clinton-connected.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:43 PM
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59. That's a fair point.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. Okay. But aren't there any high quality, of good character Clintonites to be found?
Is that really to much to ask for?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. I don't have a problem with Holder.
And again, calling everyone that worked in the Government during Clinton's eight years a "Clintonite" as though it is a bad word is Black/White "labeling" at its worse.

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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:28 PM
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48. It's a short hand way of saying a person who worked in the Clinton administration and isn't even on
the same level.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #17
23. Your're right, we need people outside of Washington or former administrative posts...
...like ME!!


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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #23
32. Or this guy...
Who also ran on a "Washington Outsider" platform.



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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:19 PM
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40. No. He. Did. Not.
He NEVER ran on a Washington outsider platform--how could he? He's a goddamn US SENATOR!

The OTHER guys were the Mavericks, especially the Thrilla from Wasilla. Obama ran on rising above the petty partisanship of the last 8 years--which is exactly what many here are advocating.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #40
62. Sorry, I must have misunderstood...
The meaning of this whole "grass roots" thing.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:55 PM
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68. Don't lecture me about grassroots--I canvassed for Grassroots throughout this last summer.
The words "Washington Outsider" were never mentioned--not in the office, not in the field, and not on the forms I worked my ass off to get people to sign.

We never spent much time talking about Joe Lieberman or the Clintons either. But we had 100% faith in Obama's judgement because he never let us down--and still hasn't.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #23
49. Lawrence O'Donnell said Palin represents the avg intelligence in Congress.
So maybe looking outside Washington is a good idea.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:07 PM
Original message
Clinton, Part III. Now there's a govt we can be proud of.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:18 PM
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37. NOW you're attacking Obama. First it was Hillary, then it was Biden, now it's the President-elect.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:07 PM
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19. Chiquita death squad Holder? I hope not. Oh, dear.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:12 PM
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25. As an American, aren't you just so PROUD of this proposed administration.
Such ethics, such integrity. It's just so wonderful. We Democrats are showing those Republicans how to staff an administration with solid, honest, upright, decent, of great moral character, citizens. Oh, and extremely qualified. Don't let me forget that one.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:14 PM
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30. Rumsfeld and Cheney were experienced and qualified, too.
And the icing on the cake is that the "left" is still being demonized -- as if there is an actual "left" in the country.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #30
86. Experienced, yes
But then you could probably call Stalin experienced too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #86
87. Yep.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #25
42. No brains yet, huh?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. So, you have no problem with someone who defended the murderers
of thousands of Colombian union workers and labor leaders?

That's a little . . . odd.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. I think it's Ralph.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. Well they say ignorance is bliss. Unfortunately, sometimes no matter how much
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 03:25 PM by Skwmom
you'd like to be in that state of ignorant bliss, it's just not possible.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #46
52. Not ignorance just annoyance. Obama was elected, let him at least take office first
or is that too much to ask? I am not going to nitpick every little appointment. Sorry, I doubt everyone on here can be pleased 100% of the time.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. AG is not a little appointment, especially considering that Justice
is profoundly corrupted right now.

But, do we even know if this is true yet?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #54
64. No we don't. Which is why I don't get all the handwringing
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Imho, we have a kind of collective PTSD. Who wouldn't after these last 8 years?


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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:54 PM
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67. Yes, we do. Holder is not my favorite but Obama has been close too him for a long time.
I get it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #67
72. It sends a really unfortunate message to Latin America.
And, that's a shame.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #52
61. Nitpick? What would some of you people be saying if the Republicans
had appointed someone like this? Give me a break.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #25
85. I hope I was right
In detecting dripping sarcasm there.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. USB investment bank defender?
I thought I read something about Holder and them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #28
34. He did the Mark Rich pardon. I don't know about USB. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
39. Yeah...and Wes Clark was called a War Criminal by many here at DU!
:eyes:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. Read the link, Frenchie?

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #43
55. Yes, I did.
And thank you for providing it.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:43 PM
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60. Credit PeacePatriot, not me. Do we know if this appointment is a done deal?
I was really hoping we wouldn't send this signal to Latin America. Because what it looks like down there is problematic.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #60
79. Won't Holder have to recuse himself on the Columbia death squads?
Or any other cases where he represented interests that don't work in the Government's favor?

Isn't that a common practice in the legal field when there is a conflict of interest?

As for Latin America...
I listened to Democracy Now last week or the week before and they went through Holder's representation of those Columbian interests. I would think that Obama can pick one or more Deputy Secretary who has a better background on Columbia and the rest of South America to balance Holder's deficit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. I was hoping Richardson would stay in the mix.
He's very good at developing those relationships.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #39
51. Clark is a smart and decent guy. I won't be looking for him to get any
position in this administration (unless it's some low level token position without any power).
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:08 PM
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21. that's kind of disappointing.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #21
33. How come?
I don't know much about him...why is it disappointing?
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #33
81. it's not a huge deal, but I was just looking for someone a little outside the box
Oh well...I guess that's why Obama's president and I'm not.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:11 PM
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24. Not a big surprise - I've been predicting Holder since June
here on DU.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:14 PM
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29. Isikoff talking out his ass
I'm not buying this yet. And I sure as hell hope it's not the case.

The department of JUSTICE needs to return to being exactly that. We need a better AG than this.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:46 PM
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63. MSNBC just reported that Holder has accepted
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. MSNBC relies on Newsweek for a lot of their material.
Isikoff is probably their source.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:57 PM
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69. He is
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #63
71. I don't find him exceptional but neither do I find him mediocre
I was hoping for someone that had a record of taking on corporations
vs representing corporations. I was hoping someone that prosecuted corruption



He has some good points:
In the Justice department:

The Public Integrity attorneys were charged with prosecuting high-level corruption cases, often involving respectable public figures. Among those Holder helped to prosecute were former South Carolina congressman John W. Jenrette--in the notorious "Abscam" case in the late 1970s--and a Philadelphia judge who accepted monetary gifts to "fix" cases. The list of people Holder prosecuted while with Public Integrity included Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents, politicians, organized crime figures, and even a fellow Justice Department lawyer. The job Holder thought he would stay in for two years consumed one dozen years of his life.

In 1988, President Ronald Reagan appointed Holder to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. The rotating judgeship involved deciding every imaginable kind of case, from murders and armed robberies to nonpayment of child support and school truancy. The job proved particularly difficult for a man committed to helping African Americans in the city.

Publicity was waiting for Holder almost the very day he began his new job. Even though he was appointed by a Democratic president, he was expected to preside over a complicated Justice Department investigation of fraud involving the post office in the House of Representatives. An influential congressman, Illinois Democrat Dan Rostenkowski, was the subject of the investigation and has since been indicted on charges that he misused official House accounts.

Rostenkowski, as chairman of the congressional Ways and Means Committee, was in a position to help the Clinton administration to implement its agenda for health care reform. Nonetheless, Holder persisted with the investigation and even widened its scope. He told the Washington Post that matters of criminal prosecution must be handled without regard to partisan politics. "The idea that a Democratic U.S. attorney is going to do something different than a Republican U.S. attorney is pretty close to ridiculous," he observed.

Holder has had to provide direction for the prosecution of numerous local criminal suspects, including everyone from the local drug dealers to those who might wish to harm the president. It is in the local arena that Holder is expected to make the greatest impact.
http://www.answers.com/topic/eric-h-holder-jr
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:22 PM
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77. F#ck.
This is worse and sooner than I'd hoped it would be.

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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:26 PM
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47. Another Clinton retread? *sigh*
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 03:27 PM by Double_Talk_Express
Why? First Rahm, now this guy...soon Hillary herself will be part of this cabinet!

C'mon Barack!

(I know I'll get labeled a "concern troll" for this. God forbid anyone have a single dissenting view)
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dascientist Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:05 PM
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70. HE DID IT BEEEFOOOOOOOOOORRRREEEEE
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:16 PM
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73. I woulda preferred a break from the Clinton people. Someone like Charles Ogletree.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 05:52 PM
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80. Did you see how the Senate ripped Lani Guinear apart? What do you think they'd do with Charles O?
They'd have him for breakfast, lunch and dinner. This is true of most black public intellectuals because of their stance on racism. Obama is limited to neutral sounding blacks.

Anyone feel like he can pull a radical out of his back pocket?
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:41 PM
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84. I am sure he will be a good AT but wonder too about all the Clintonites....
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marimour Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:55 AM
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88. everyone worked for the Clintons!
If anyone has been a successful democrat in government then they probably worked for the Clintons. He has been our only Democratic president in the last 20 years. who did you expect them to work for? Also, he didn't just work for clinton. He worked for bush 1, carter, and reagan as well.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:16 PM
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90. He doesn't look that old - lol - honestly I didn't know he was that old.
Thanks -:hi:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:58 AM
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89. I have no reason not to trust Obama on this...
As long as he is picking who he really wants and who he really thinks is the best, I'm fine...
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