The latest iteration of the "Concern Troll"

[Renew Deal]

We've had various iterations of the concern troll over the last 8 months. We've had those that were concerned that Obama "couldn't close the deal." Then we had those that were concerned that he couldn't win the GE. Then we had those that were concerned about every little thing Obama did. Now we have two new concern trolls. We have the concern trolls that are shocked (SHOCKED) that Obama isn't as liberal as a few misinformed people thought he would be. We also have concern trolls about Obama's appointments. They are concerned that candidates aren't pure, white, black, hispanic, gay, straight, male, female, democratic enough. It's fascinating to watch.

[mmonk]

1. You mean people have opinions?

[apocalypsehow]

2. Yep - Rec. n/t.

[TheWraith]

3. It wouldn't be DU without the Purity Patrol.

Anybody who's not Dennis Kucinich or Cindy Sheehan is unworthy of holding office. :eyes:

[FatDave]

20. Not even Russ Feingold?

[Debi]

4. I must've missed the 'walk in lock-step' sign upon entering this site

silly me :eyes:

[TheWraith]

21. And cue the "lock step" responses.

Because God forbid that people on a Democratic website should, say, support a Democratic President-Elect, or should fail to try and kill him for not nationalizing the oil industry and having Wall Street traders clapped in irons before he even gets inaugurated.

Yeah, those "patience" and "loyalty" things are overrated.

[Debi]

29. You mean like the reward for loyalty Joe Lieberman just received?

Seems if we act more like Lieberman we may get front row seats at the inagurual....being 'loyal' isn't just overrated these days - it seems to be frowned upon by our new administration.

This place would be pretty quiet if all we had were posts stating how wonderful everything is and that we applaud every freaking thing the President and Congress do.

Differences of opinion about how our new President and our improved Democratic majority handle the next two years should be invited not discouraged.

(Please point me to my posts about my desire for nationalization of the oil industry and having Wall Street traders clapped in irons....:eyes: nothing like being a little over dramatic to make a point).

[Xipe Totec]

5. I'm very concerned about all these concern trolls

:scared:

[WeDidIt]

6. X

[Democrats_win]

7. I'm concerned about the use of the term "I'm concerned troll."

I am not afraid of "I'm concerned trolls." I'm concerned about them.

[AlCzervik]

8. that's why hide thread is such a great feature. People want to express their opinions

that's fine by me, if i want to respond i do, if don't i just skip the thread.

[Barack_America]

9. Sorry, but this post is kind of scary, particularly after the past 8 years.

Are you actually suggesting that it's a BAD idea to question our leaders' actions?

Perhaps then we should just get rid of the whole Senate confirmation thing too? I mean, if Obama's nominations are correct without question, what's the point, right?

[FLAprogressive]

11. Agreed.

I don't understand why we all have to be in lockstep agreement with every single one of Pres.-elect Obama's decisions.

[JuniperLea]

12. I don't think that's the point

I think the point is Obama told us over and over again how he was going to run things, and he didn't lie, but so many DUers either forgot what he said, or they didn't hear him in the first place.

[Barack_America]

17. I don't recall...

Him describing his plan to recycle Washington insiders in his administration.

Can you think of a "grass roots" appointment he's made yet? Or anyone who has a decidedly "non-Beltway" perspective?

Just sayin'. It's not that I'm doubting Obama, just that I understand those that are thus far underwhelmed.

[Renew Deal]

19. Valerie Jarrett

Not that he's named tat many people, but she is non-beltway.

[JuniperLea]

28. Why, yes. Yes I can...

Valerie Bowman Jarrett, his new Senior Adviser.

What does that make now for sure, three appointments? And the list is what, 30+ openings?

Come on... vetting takes time and there are 63 days left before the inauguration.

http://www.change.gov/learn/administration/

[Renew Deal]

18. Not at all

But it seems like no matter what Obama does, the same few people are upset with it.

[Barack_America]

22. Well, I've not been "flipping-out" upset over anything he's done.

But given that I donated money and over 500 hours of my time to his election, I feel like I've earned the right to say "meh" when I feel "meh" about his choices.

[Renew Deal]

23. You certainly do

:D

[TheWraith]

26. I think it's a bad idea to have fits over nonsense and imagined slights.

Look, I dislike as much as anybody the idea of Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, but a lot of the "discussion" on here has been nonsense, accusing Obama of being a secret Republican neocon because people don't like Rahm Emanuel.

[Barack_America]

27. That's foolish.

The accusations you mentioned, that is.

And, as usual, interesting and useful discussion is lost in the hyperbole that is GDP.

We should be critiquing Obama's choices. He's Mr. Team of Rivals, hell, he would WANT us to do so.

[Two Americas]

33. no, no, no

We have to all be loyal until after the election. Once we get Dems into office, THEN we are free to say whatever we like. Eyes on the prize. Criticizing Dems now is helping the Republicans.

Job one is to get Dems into office. Until then we can do nothing. And then we need a majority in Congress. Then, look out, will we ever start tearing it up then. But since we don't have the numbers, it is unrealistic to expect any action from the Dems.

Meanwhile, until all of that happens, please get into line and stop saying anything that sounds even the slightest bit critical of any Democratic party politicians.

Except Kucinich. Feel free to bash the crap out of him at any time.

[nichomachus]

10. Go and find out what a "concern troll" really is

Or we'll have to label you as a "concern troll troll"

[ITsec]

13. Concern trolls don't concern me...

but the over abundance of concern about concern trolls does concern me.

[npk]

14. This post has me concerned

:scared:

[TomInTib]

15. After all this time, I still have no idea what a "concern troll" is.

I received a poll, yesterday, with all manner of questions about just that.

So I just neglected them.

[TahitiNut]

16. So, is there such a thing as a "Meta-Concern Troll"??

:crazy:

[greguganus]

24. Your concern is noted. n/t

[Renew Deal]

25. Troll!

You forgot to add troll at the end. :D

[Fire1]

30. Certainly, Dem's realize PE Obama is not able to please

everybody. Already, there have been appointments that are 'questionable,' at best, imo. But, I voted for this man because I trust his judgment and will give him the benefit of the doubt. I still reserve the right, however, to express my doubts, as they arise.

[Th1onein]

31. HEY! I remember a time when we talked about holding our

Democratic politician's feet to the fire to get them to do the right thing by us. It's called government OF the people, BY the people, and FOR the people.

These people are not "concern trolls," and I, for one, highly resent the label. It's pure bullshit, meant to shut us the fuck up, when what we should ALL be doing is exactly what we said that we were going to do, should we ever manage to win an election: HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.

[Bobbie Jo]

32. Why do you hate Free Speech?

First Amendment hater....#@%*:spank:






Oh btw...:sarcasm:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

34. You're apocalyptic.

:*

[leftofthedial]

35. and then we have the concern trolls who are concerned over "concern trolls"

[NashVegas]

36. I Think They're More Pissed Than Concerned

But that's just me.

[apnu]

37. Obama is extremely liberal... I think the word you're looking for is "progressive"

He is very liberal, in the old FDR sense. He is not, however, as progressive as most on this board. Dennis Kucinich is very progressive, and far left of Obama.

But beyond that semantic thing, I agree with you. People, especially around here, are grossly misinformed about Obama, his politics, goals and character. Really, they should take a few minutes and read The Audacity of Hope to get a measure of the man in his own words. Then they need to read Change We Can Believe In to get a measure of his goals.

After reading all that, I expect there will be many hysterical members of this board outraged that he is, basically, a centrist, just like Dr. Dean.