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BadDog40 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:49 AM
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Obama considering an anti medical marijuana republican for drug czar?
I hope to hell Obama has more sense than this, especially after Obama promised he would end the federal govt from raiding and arresting medical marijuana users.

From Politico:

Rep. Jim Ramstad's name is bouncing around as a possible "drug czar" — the name given the head of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. Ramstad, a Minnesota Republican, is in recovery himself and has been a longtime proponent of treatment for drug abuse.

Along with Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.), he has been an advocate for mental health parity — the push to treat mental illness with the same effort as physical illness. Ramstad has consistently voted against medical marijuana in Congress, opposing an effort to prevent the federal government from raiding or arresting medical marijuana clubs in states where it is legal.

"It’s gratifying to hear Jim’s name being mentioned for drug czar," said Ramstad spokesman Dean Peterson. "Jim has worked in a bipartisan way for 27 years on anti-drug efforts in Congress and the Minnesota Senate. And as a recovering person, he’s worked every day to help those suffering the ravages of chemical addiction."


http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1108/Ramstad_for_Drug_Czar.html?showall
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:50 AM
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1. Fucking terrible idea
I sincerely hope this goes no where. It's unjustifiable.
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BadDog40 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:00 AM
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3. I agree, to continue with the current direction with the war on drugs is insane
Surely if anyone can see this it is Obama.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:57 AM
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2. A Republican in recovery??
is still a Republican???

Okay, now that's just downright scary. No matter what he thinks of medical marijuana.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:06 AM
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4. Is this one of those jobs that serves at the pleasure of the president?...
...asked the ignorant Canadian.
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:11 AM
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5. Everything serves at the pleasure of the president.


Including our rights as patients,or as adults it seems.


Still,he gives a rousing speech doesn't he?Thats something I guess.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:11 AM
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6. Is it time to flood "Change.gov" with some emails to oppose Ramstad's appointment? ~nt~
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:13 AM
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7. Can we retire the title "drug czar" ferchrissakes already?
And how about deep-sixing the phrase "war on drugs" while we're at it?

Come on Obama! How 'bout a little fresh air on this one?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:38 AM
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26. I really don't like the idea of a czar at war.
Maybe we can call it a pogrom on marijuana users!
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:20 PM
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27. Maybe the head mullah
of the drug jihad?
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:27 AM
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8. I hate to be a "Negative Nellie" but

It appears to me that Obama MAY have turned his back on a large segment of the population who helped him get elected.I said he may have turned his back on us,but all indications point in that direction based on some of his possible appointments.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x403041
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:53 AM
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Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 04:09 AM by LynneSin
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:27 AM
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19. concern alert!! n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:47 AM
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9. delete
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 04:09 AM by LynneSin
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BadDog40 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:57 AM
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12. Its Drug Czar, not Attorney General
And what does Bush's executive orders have to do with this at all other than the fact that he has persecuted and prosecuted sick and dying people in states that have voted for this? This guy Ramstad agrees with Bush on this and having him threatens for this to continue. What more important issues are there to someone sick and dying than the threat of federal prison??
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:09 AM
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13. My bad - it's late and I'm on Nyquol if that's any defense
:cry:
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BadDog40 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:23 AM
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16. Sorry if I was a little harsh, but I feel strongly about this issue
I have been battling a kidney tumor for the past 5 years and I am a legal medical marijuana user. The DEA under Bush has and still specifically targets medical users for prosecution. Obama has stated that he would put a stop to this but this is NOT the way to do it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:25 AM
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18. Here, you can contact them here, and ask about the rumor you heard.....
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:14 AM
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15. There goes my job with Dr. Dooby. n/t
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:24 AM
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17. There certainly are a lot of names "bouncing" around for
President-Elect Obama's cabinet choices, but none from Obama himself.

Thanks, but I'll wait for him to announce his picks for his cabinet.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:28 AM
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20. Sadly, nearly every Dem out there strongly opposes medical MJ.
There are only a few out there who support it. Most every Libertarian does & that's the one (and maybe only) thing I like about that party.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:32 AM
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21. 3 day old rumor!
I'm tired of those who would post rumors that appear posted to provide negative reaction. Almost makes me think that Politico has an agenda. Oh yeah... I forgot, they are not our friends. They are a web based corporate political manipulative of public opinion piece of shit of a rag.
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BadDog40 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:43 AM
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22. My agenda is to prevent this from happening
Whats yours?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:47 AM
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23. I gave you the contact address, didn't I?
You can write, if you haven't already.
That's why they have a contact page.

The name you have heard is a rumor.
Write to them a cite the article.

Somebody's reading the correspondence.
Don't think they aren't.

Bitching at DU ain't gonna be quite as effective, I'm afraid.
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MN Treehugger Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:25 PM
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30. Thank you FrenchieCat
I actually did just that - sent a message explaining the rumor that I heard and the reasons why Ramstad would be a horrible choice. Even if it's an unfounded rumor, it also allows me to get my voice out there.

Personally, I also think the choice of someone in recovery is suspect as well. I have tremendous respect for people who are able to kick their addictions but I also believe that many who do tend to have "tunnel vision" on the issue based solely on their experiences. If we must have a Drug Czar (I'd like to see it disappear entirely), I'd rather have someone in there without that pre-existing bias.

Medical marijuana is a very important issue for my family. I don't consider it a "second tier" type of issue at all, particularly when you consider the economic repercussions of the drug war as is, not to mention the human toll. I don't only think a fresh approach is needed; I think it should be demanded. Particularly considering what voters across party lines have already stated loud and clear.
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happychatter Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 05:03 AM
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24. if Obama cares about US money used for political assassination and repression
then he'll pull the carpet out from under our bullshit war on drugs

I love the guy, but I'm not going to hold my breath
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victoryparty Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 05:56 AM
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25. Better Republican as Drug Czar: Dana Rohrabacher
He introduced pro-medical marijuana legislation in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinchey-Rohrabacher_medical_marijuana_amendment

It was defeated 262-165. With the New Congress and a new president and a better "drug czar" than Ramstad, who knows?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:22 PM
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28. This guy does not sound so bad
I disagree about medical marijuana, but I like that he's for mental health parity and is a proponent of treatment for substance abuse.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:36 PM
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32. If Obama can't change a policy that puts hundreds of thousands of young AA males in jail
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 12:37 PM by cbc5g
And keeps the status quo on the drug war, then what can he really change anyways if he is going to be controlled by past figures? That guy has the same views as the current drug czar.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:24 PM
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29. We need to protect the drug companies.
Do you want to see them fail too?
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:29 PM
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31. Obama promised to stop the federal raids on MMJ clubs and patients
He needs to keep his promise.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:39 PM
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33. If Obama pursues patients and even rec users
while letting the DC criminals walk, he will be the biggest hypocrite ever to draw a toke.
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