SoCalDem
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Wed Nov-19-08 07:48 PM
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Single-payer/Universal health care will NOT "hurt" the small business owners. |
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This stale old chestnut needs to be tossed on the trash pile..
Name me ONE small business owner that WANTS to keep providing health care for employees..
The only reason why anyone might even consider this a bad thing is this..
Boss says your health care is costing HIM $XX a week..suddenly you might expect him to start giving YOU that $XX a week, since it's "yours" anyway..
The only other way it might impact the boss, is if suddenly you were free to go work somewhere else, because your health care would be with YOU..not your job..
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Wed Nov-19-08 07:52 PM
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1. Yes, it's that empowerment that probably scares some business owners |
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and frankly, some business owners deserve to be scared if they have employees who've put up with crappy wages in exchange for a halfway decent health insurance plan.
I sometimes wonder how many potential entrepreneurs never take the plunge because doing without a company's paid health insurance would be irresponsible.
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Wed Nov-19-08 07:54 PM
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2. It Would Bring the Overall Cost of Healthcare Down |
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Wed Nov-19-08 07:56 PM
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3. That depends if the insurance lobbyists are allowed to write the bill |
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like the PHRMA boys who wrote the prescription benefit bill. Pure theft IMHO. Keep the for profit health care insurers and drug manufacturers out of this and we may have something that benefits everyone, including small and large businesses.
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Wed Nov-19-08 07:59 PM
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4. Single payer would yield the most for the least |
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Taking away the parasitical profits that are made on health care by the insurance companies is only bad for those insurance companies.
I have yet to hear a rational argument against it.
I didn't know that that particular argument was so prolific, but you are correct, small businesses as well as large businesses (Like GM) would only be strengthened if they did not have to shoulder the burden of health care.
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:16 PM
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5. It's a net benefit for everyone |
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You'll actually be getting CHEAPER healthcare, because you're cutting out a VERY greedy middleman.
Here in Canada, we have free health care, but we still have to pay for prescription drugs. But they're STILL cheaper than yours because our govt. buys drugs IN BULK, something YOUR states are FORBIDDEN BY LAW to do.
AND employers don't have to pay a cent (depending on what kind of plan it will be). Employers only offer drug and dental plans only. Because that's all they have to do for a healthcare plan.
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:18 PM
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6. It will help them, immensely. |
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They can compete for the best empolyees who would prefer to work for a smaller business, but go to larger ones because of the benefits.
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:19 PM
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How will single payer universal health care be paid for. It will cost a lot of tax dollars to fully fund the system. Who will pay those tax dollars. The popular mantra on this site is that business/employers should be hit as heavily as possible. JMO.
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:22 PM
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8. Doctors & hospitals don't care WHO pays them |
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The middlemen skim off 30% (give or take)..There's a 30% reduction in costs right there:)
and each person would "pay" via their own taxes.. Pay more----get more :)..now we have pay more-get less
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:29 PM
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It will take a tremdous amount of taxes to cover the cost of a Univeral program. My neighbors wife pays no medicare taxes of any type. How will she be taxed. Businesses pay a portion of the taxes that go to Medicare, will that come to an end, or will they pick up the tab for those that pay no medicare taxes now?
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Wed Nov-19-08 09:59 PM
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12. It's a matter of priorities.. if we WANT to , we WILL. |
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we bail out millionaires and start wars.. we can surely figure out a way to join the rest of the civilized world, and provide some benefit to citizenship :)
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:42 PM
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10. Every small/medium business owner I know spends time on their knees every day praying FOR... |
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...Universal/Single payer health care. They know it's the ONLY way they can be competitive for the best talent in the pool against large employers that can still afford to offer health care plans.
adamantly, Bright
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Wed Nov-19-08 08:50 PM
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11. Single payer would HELP the small business owners, and even the big ones |
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Because it would take away the paperwork hassles of providing health care, and whatever it cost in taxes to pay for it would be far less than what any business currently pays now, between the benefits to the employees and the administrative costs of keeping employer-based health care going.
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