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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:20 AM
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MAKING THE SENATE MORE ENTICING TO CLINTON....
November 21, 2008

MAKING THE SENATE MORE ENTICING TO CLINTON....

If you believe the reports, Hillary Clinton's departure from the Senate to become the Secretary of State is a done deal. I suspect it probably is, but one of the more common questions about the move is why Clinton would want to give up a great, long-term gig in the Senate for a tough, short-term gig in Foggy Bottom.

Part of the problem for Clinton is that her seniority isn't doing her any favors. There's been all kinds of shuffling with the committee chairs since the election, driven in part by Robert Byrd's decision to give up the Appropriations Committee, but Clinton is left without a gavel of her own. It's no one's fault, and she isn't being deliberately slighted, but there hasn't been enough movement on her specific committees to give Clinton a chance to move up. It must be frustrating for someone anxious for a promotion.

So, when the specter of the State Department came up, it no doubt looked pretty compelling. It's interesting, then, that Senate Democratic leaders are reportedly willing to make the chamber a more attractive option for the junior senator from New York.

Democratic leaders in the Senate are prepared to give Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton a still-undefined leadership role there if she does not become Barack Obama's secretary of state, Democratic officials close to the situation said Thursday.

The discussions about an enhanced position for Mrs. Clinton are factoring into her deliberations over joining the cabinet, the officials said. Mrs. Clinton, the junior senator from New York, is wrestling with whether to abandon her independence to become the nation's top diplomat or remain in a chamber where lack of seniority limits her influence. <...>

Senate Democrats gathered Tuesday to re-elect their leadership, including Mr. Dorgan, without offering any of the top slots to Mrs. Clinton. But Mr. Reid told those at the closed-door meeting that he was looking for a way to create a new leadership role for her, two people who were in the room said. The same day, Mr. Kennedy also chose her to head one of three health care working groups looking at legislation.

Mr. Reid wants to come up with some sort of leadership position to recognize Mrs. Clinton's standing as one of the party's most popular figures, and aides said he was confident that he could arrive at something with sufficient muscle to appeal to her.

If the leadership could give Clinton a better role in the chamber, would she be more likely to stick around? I guess we'll see soon enough.

As for her interest in joining the Obama cabinet, the New York Times quoted sources close to the senator saying she was prepared to decline the offer on Wednesday, was back on the fence by midday Thursday, and by last night, was inclined to accept the job.

"At the end of a confused day in which even Mr. Obama's advisers seemed unsure what was happening, a transition official reached out to reporters Thursday night to say that the president-elect's team believed things were on track with Mrs. Clinton and that her nomination could be announced after Thanksgiving," the Times added.






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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:27 AM
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1. But Senator Clinton doesn't have real seniority for the truly plum positions in the Senate
In an institution where seniority is measured by decades, she doesn't have any seniority.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:27 AM
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2. Next week Obama will personally announce her nomination.
And speculation will end.


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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:36 AM
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3. Just remember - Hillary was a real trooper after the convention.
I know that most of her supporters were going to vote Obama but there were the few trouble makers. Whether there was enough to throw the election to McCain (probably not) the one thing that Hillary did was squash all the rumors that our party was 'divided'. I really felt like we took a major turn after her speech when she said "Did you do this just for me?" because she knew it was more than just her - it was for our party and our country too.

So yeah, she deserves some recognition for the fact that ultimately she didn't put up a fight (and I think there was still some room for fight if she wanted to take it to the convention) and stuck with her vow that she was there to get Obama elected. I will always respect her for that one :D
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:40 AM
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4. Hillary did a great job for Obama, she campaigned for him and raised a ton of money for him
She has no power in the Senate and as SoS she will gain even more FP experience.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:42 AM
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5. "she deserves some recognition for the fact that ultimately she didn't put up a fight "
No, if she had put up a fight, her career would be over.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:43 AM
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6. Ted Kennedy's isn't
And, he even ran against a sitting Dem President.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:47 AM
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7. Hillary isn't Kennedy and 2008 isn't 1980 n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:51 AM
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8. I'm glad you just admitted I was right, because that's what you did
:pals:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:01 AM
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9. Yes you were sissy!
:loveya:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:06 AM
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10. Right, Hillary would have put up a fight and lost
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 10:07 AM by ProSense
She would return to the Senate and be allowed to retain her position: no seniority and no spot in the administration. Obama would have indicated to Senate Democrats not to hold grudges. Her only friends in the Senate would be Joe Lieberman and John McCain.

Most Democrats would despise her. These were not the same dynamics as in 1980.



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