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harry_pothead Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:21 PM
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Idiot anti-Obama fundie pastor in Kansas gets owned by CNN's Rick Sanchez
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 02:23 PM by harry_pothead
The pastor put up an anti-Obama sign on his church front calling Obama a muslim. The controversy attracted the MSM, and the pastor agreed to do an interview with CNN. Rick Sanchez makes him look like an idiot.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/11/20/nr.sanchez.preacher.sign.cnn

What a maroon. Reason#21987693 I'm glad I'm an atheist.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:25 PM
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1. kick for later. eom
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:27 PM
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2. Can't watch the video now, because I'm getting a shitty connection
But I saw enough of it to ask the following rhetorical question......

Even if Obama WERE a Muslim (which he isn't) how exactly would it be a "sin against God" for him to be President? :shrug:

I seem to remember the Bible implying that while God doesn't directly intervene in elections, those who serve in such positions do so by His will. Though I refuse to believe the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004 would meet that criteria, since "thou shalt not steal" is in God's Top Ten List.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:31 PM
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3. Another asshole who uses myth to give him cover for his bigotry
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 02:34 PM by stopbush
and racism.

Read a book, preferably something other than the bible.

And, he's an asshole on the Constitution as well. The CASE LAW that has been made by the SCOTUS that further defines and expands the Constitution AS IT WAS MEANT TO DO has the full force of the Constitution itself, and in many rulings, the Justices of the SCOTUS have used the phrase "separation of church and state" in those decisions, which effectively puts the words into the living document that is the Constitution.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:34 PM
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4. Two minutes and out. This asshole gets no more of my time.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:35 PM
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5. The guy was an uninformed, reactionary dumbass...........
But you have to hand one thing to him, he was persistent: Even in the face of direct quotes from the framers of this country saying there is separation of church and state, this guy stuck to his ignorant guns.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:35 PM
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6. Man Rick Sanchez is earning a reputation. First Joe The Plumber
now destroys another wing nut
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:37 PM
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7. Proud2bLib
posted the story about this minister last week - I can't find the thread now... Anyway - the guy is a total ass.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:38 PM
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8. Rick Sanchez made him look like an idiot?
Doesn't sound like much of a challenge.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:39 PM
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9. I am starting to like Rick Sanchez alot.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:47 PM
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10. If wish Sanchez would have said, "why should I believe that you're a
Xian when you don't believe Obama is a Xian? Is your word better than his?"
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iamincali83 Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:55 PM
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11. Why do we give these people the time of day?
This nutty pastor is just another fundie asshole looking for attention.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:56 PM
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12. Sanchez could've done an even better job imo
First,the pastor was arguing that Obama's beliefs were not "Christian" beliefs as the pastor sees them. After Sanchez pointed out that Obama's beliefs were consistent with those expressed by Pope John Paul and by Billy Graham, he should've asked whether the pastor believed that anyone who didn't ascribe to "Christian beliefs" as the pastor understood them was a "muslim" -- is Billy Graham a muslim? Is the Pope a "Muslim"? Are Jews really "Muslims"? Even if the pastor believe Obama doesn't ascribe to CHristian beliefs, how does that make him a muslim?

Second, Sanchez could've crushed the pastor by pointing out a provision of the constitution that the pastor seems to have ignored: Article VI, which provides that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." In light of this language, how can the pastor claim, as he appeared to be doing, that having someone who isn't christian as president is inconsistent with the constitution?

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