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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:34 AM
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What administration did the Clinton staffers work for before Clinton?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:42 AM
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1. Well, some probably worked for Carter(he'd only left office twelve years prior)
A few might have come from the Johnson Administration(they'd have been quite young in that one and relatively old in Clinton's).

And quite a few, IIRC, came straight from the corporate world or academia.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:47 AM
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2. Of all Clinton's appointees
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 12:48 AM by hughee99
Warren Christopher was the only one who had previously spent time in the executive branch (Deputy Sec. of State under Carter) as far as I could tell, anyway.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:52 AM
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3. Christopher was also a deputy AG in the Johnson Administration.
And I think there may have been more such returnees among staffers of various sorts.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:02 AM
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5. I couldn't find any others.
Many of his cabinet members were relatively young.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:04 AM
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6. Yep, new fresh faces and new ideas as I recall.
Not so much on experience.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:35 AM
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17. :Looks like you are wrong
lots of Carter holdovers in Clinton's staff. Sorry.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:39 AM
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18. A treat for you.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:44 AM
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19. I worked on the Clinton/Gore re-election by the way.
I remember some young faces as well.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:53 AM
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4. Yes, he's one.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:29 AM
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13. Almost all of Clinton's top foreign policy people worked in the Carter Administration
Madeleine Albright, Anthony Lake, and Sandy Berger all worked for Carter. Les Aspin didn't but he didn't last very long and was replaced by William Perry who did.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:05 AM
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7. A lot of them had worked for Carter.
Christopher, Holbrooke, Albright, and Perry worked for Carter. Probably others. Others came from other political offices, the private sector, academia, state governments... Exactly the same as Obama is doing.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:12 AM
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9. Togo West, Hazel O'Leary, Donna Shalala, Alexis Herman, also.
That's just his cabinet, and doesn't include deputy appointments and below. Nor does it include courts.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:14 AM
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10. Yes, those are some names.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:11 AM
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8. You mean cabinet members right?
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 01:22 AM by stillcool47
I have no idea who all worked in the Clinton administration. Is there even a list?

In his second term, President Clinton shuffled most of the 14 top administration posts in his Cabinet. Only four members of President Reagan's original Cabinet remained a year into his second term.

President Nixon replaced every member of his Cabinet at least once in the five years of his administration, and only three of Jimmy Carter's Cabinet members served the entire four years of his presidency.

There tends to be a significant difference between a president's original appointees and those who come in the second term, said Richard Maiman, head of the political science department at the University of Southern Maine.

"A Cabinet is as much an exercise in public relations as it is an exercise in administration," Maiman said. "Very often the people in the first Cabinet are what are called Washington outsiders. . . to basically satisfy various constituencies and kind of establish a tone for the administration."

"In the second term, presidents tend to support more experienced insiders to replace the original appointments," he said.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:17 AM
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11. Not limited to. I just wanted an idea.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:26 AM
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12. I don't even know how to begin...
to do a search and find a list of all the advisors/aides in previous administrations.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:30 AM
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14. I was just asking. It seems the main argument for so many
previous political insiders is that they bring experience. I was looking for a rough comparison. I guess my concern is how much change does one get from the system?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:33 AM
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15. Clinton's top appointees were Deputy Secretaries and Undersecretaries in the Carter Administration
Carter's top appointees were Deupty and Undersecretaries in the Kennedy/Johnson Administrations. Their top appointees in the Kennedy/Johnson Administration were Deputy and Undersecretaries in the Roosevelt/Truman Administrations. Before Roosevelt the modern bureaucracy didn't really exist as it does today.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:35 AM
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16. Thanks.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:44 AM
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20. No problem
It's not really a subject that has been frequently discussed because the Democrats have been out of power for 8 years and before that they were out of power for 12 years. Basically each party has their own set of "bureaucracy politicians" that are experts in their areas and generally advise the party's candidates in hope for an appointment if the party wins the White House. The thing is that until the party does win the White House we never hear about these people because they don't hold any government office if the Republicans are in charge. Occasionally they will actually run for elected office themselves but most often they go off and work for think tanks and teach at universities and once every four years you may hear that some of them became advisors to a particular presidential candidate. But for the most part you never hear about these people until somebody from the party actually does get elected President and starts filling his administration.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:50 AM
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21. Yes, that was my thoughts.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:42 AM
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22. Good stuff.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:51 AM
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23. Carter
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 05:03 AM
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24. Carter, Reagan and Bush
There weren't many from Reagan and Bush, a few from Carter.

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