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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:08 PM
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Breaking: Missing ballots found in Minnesota by Franken camp!
Edited on Tue Nov-25-08 05:12 PM by Barack08
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/35074544.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUxWoW_oD:EaDUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyU

A new wrinkle is surfacing today in the recount battle in Minnesota between incumbent U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman and challenger Al Franken -- missing ballots.

The Franken campaign today said that it has learned of missing ballots totaling several hundred in various counties. Franken recount attorney Marc Elias said he's also bothered that counties that know they have missing ballots aren't bothering to look for them.

Elias declined to identify those counties but acknowledged that the Franken campaign is monitoring reports of several dozen missing ballots in Becker County.

Officials can determine they have missing ballots whenever they come up with fewer paper ballots than what the electronic Election Night vote total was for the U.S. Senate race.


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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:10 PM
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1. Gee, I wonder who hid them?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:12 PM
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2. Franken is going to win, and someone needs to go to jail. n/t
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:16 PM
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17. Please, let it be so!! nt
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:12 PM
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3. i hope hannity reports this
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:17 PM
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Edited on Tue Nov-25-08 05:17 PM by prodn2000
:spray:

HOLYSHIT

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


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I_Will Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:17 PM
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4. Missing...or only ever existed in the software ?
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:34 PM
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6. Interesting point - I hope they find out and report it to the world!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:00 PM
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12. That's my guess. n/t
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 08:46 PM
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23. That is what I have been wondering
Who said all those votes for Norm were memorialized via paper? Maybe the numbers were "accidentally" inflated....

Sam
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:33 PM
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5. Becker County?
I believe that's Michelle Bachmann country.

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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:34 PM
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7. how cool would that be?
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:35 PM
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8. Hardly. It's in the 7th, Peterson's.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:16 PM
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16. And the seventh Congressional district is the most Republican district in the state
Yes it is represented by a Democrat, but it is one of those situations in which a very red district elects a conservative Democrat. Peterson is pretty much the only Democrat that can win that seat, it is actually more Republican than Bachmann's district.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 08:46 PM
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24. Oh duh!
I bet I was thinking of Benton County, that is in the 6th.

Though I did get someone from the coordinated campaign annoyed with me early this year. She was at my senate district meeting and said we had a shot at the DFL talking all 8 Congressional seats and I asked if Peterson had decided not to run. :evilgrin:

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:36 PM
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9. Wasn't her race close?
And a "surprising win" given her polling numbers in the weeks before the election?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:37 PM
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10. Fuck Al Franken
Edited on Tue Nov-25-08 06:00 PM by Botany
After working the election in Ohio in 2004 and hearing and seeing
election crimes first hand but then Al Franken one of our few national
voices would not say shit .... as a matter of fact he made fun of "conspiracy
people" who thought Ohio was dirty.

"Bitter table for one."

But now he is finding missing ballots and ESS machines that dump his vote ....
:grr:

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volatileblob Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:06 PM
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14. You can be pissed at Franken for not looking at Ohio's theft...
But if he wins it will help the the Demz, and the country, compared to Norm Coleman's GOP idiocy.

So, pull for Franken, for America's sake.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:22 PM
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18. I know, Bot, I said as much today to the folks that called from Franken's
campaign asking for money for lawyers to 'keep another Florida from happening'. I said, 'you mean another Ohio and Florida, don't you'
I want him to win because we need every Senator we can get come January, but Franken definitely pissed me off with his attitude on air after 2004. He could have helped a lot with getting the info out there about Ohio being stolen but he didn't want to jeapardize his chances for running for the Senate in the future. Put this recount in the 'isn't it ironic' file.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:38 PM
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19. You got it
Franken made the calculation in 2004 that it would be better
for him in the long run if he "played nice" about Ohio ... I know
some of the people involved w/ the fight here .... no wing nuts ...
and Al wouldn't touch 'em. Such things as runs of 5,000 + votes
in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) that did not have 1 Kerry vote in them.

Al is very smart and good man but his actions after the 2004 have
stained my opinion of him forever. Kinda like John Kerry, the Ohio
Dem party, and the national dem party.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 05:55 PM
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11. "Missing" ballots? Or STOLEN ballots?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:01 PM
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13. I hope people who feel relaxed because they vote on OpScan (Doug)
are watching this, closely.

We vote on OpScan here.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:14 PM
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15. WTF? I hope Obama has dispatched a cadre of attorneys to Minnesota.
This is getting weirder and weirder.
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:38 PM
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20. Fewer paper ballots than the electronic total?
I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya...

:sarcasm:
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 06:47 PM
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21. 6400 absentee ballots to be reviewed tomorrow
they were rejected initially, but a small percentage expected to be allowed in.
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 08:29 PM
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22. Ballots
Wouldn't you think it should be pretty easy to tell how many ballots there should be? I know in our state everyone who signs in to vote gets a number, and they also signed the book. It seems like it would be pretty easy to tell if there is a discrepancy between the number of electronic votes that go through the machine, and the number of voters, in each precinct.

That doesn't explain where the ballots went, but it would help explain how many extra votes might have been to electronic voting machine glitches, and weren't really missing ballots.

Meg
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 08:52 PM
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25. We also sign in and a count is kept of the number of voters
at the end of the evening the number of ballots fed into the machine are suppose to match the number of voters. Added to that are spoiled ballots which would be defined as those where a voter made a mistake and requested a new ballot.
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