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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:24 AM
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TIME: Why Obama Wants Hillary for His 'Team of Rivals'
Thursday, Nov. 20, 2008
Why Obama Wants Hillary for His 'Team of Rivals'
By Karen Tumulty and Massimo Calabresi

To succeed at modern diplomacy, it helps to take the long view. As word trickled out that President-elect Barack Obama was considering Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State, Clinton was on the phone with the President of Pakistan. Asif Ali Zardari was calling with a long-overdue thank-you. Back in 1998, when Zardari's late wife Benazir Bhutto was powerless and out of favor with the United States, the then First Lady had received her at the White House, over the objections of both the State Department and the National Security Council. Bhutto eventually regained her influence, and before her assassination last December, became an important U.S. ally. But she had never forgotten that act of graciousness, Zardari told Clinton on Nov. 14. "To be treated with such respect was very important."

As he wrapped up his second week as President-elect, it was clear that Obama was taking the long view in both diplomacy and politics. How else to explain the fact that he had all but offered the most prestigious job in his Cabinet to a woman whose foreign policy experience he once dismissed as consisting of having tea with ambassadors? Or that Clinton might accept an offer from a man whose national-security credentials, she once said, began and ended with "a speech he made in 2002"? Nowhere did Obama and Clinton attack each other more brutally last spring than on the question of who was best equipped to handle international relations in a dangerous world. That they could be on the brink of becoming partners in that endeavor is the most remarkable evidence yet that Obama is serious about his declared intention to follow another Illinois President's model in assembling a "team of rivals" to run his government, in what could be a sharp contrast with the past 40 years of American Presidents. "I've been spending a lot of time reading Lincoln," Obama told Steve Kroft on 60 Minutes. "There is a wisdom there and a humility about his approach to government, even before he was President, that I just find very helpful."

And a shrewdness as well. The surprising proffer to Clinton came the same week that Obama sat down with John McCain in Chicago and helped engineer a commutation for Senator Joe Lieberman, who had backed McCain in the election and faced possibly being stripped of his committee chairmanship. The general amnesty campaign, part of a promise to change the way Washington works, impressed some longtime partisans. "It's brilliant," says a senior Republican Party official. "My hat is totally off to the guy." Viewed more cynically, bringing Clinton into the tent could co-opt a potential adversary in 2012 and put a leash on her globetrotting husband, who has a propensity for foreign policy freelancing. Which raises a question: Would this move, if it happens, be just the first manifestation of that new kind of politics that Obama was promising in his presidential campaign? Or proof that he understands the oldest kind all too well?

(snip)

But as with everything involving the Clintons, restoration is complicated. Negotiating Bill Clinton's portfolio has been one sticking point. The conundrum was on display on Nov. 16 even as Bill hailed his wife's potential to be "really great as a Secretary of State." He made that comment while giving a paid speech for the National Bank of Kuwait, which is the kind of thing for which he earned more than $10 million last year alone. Beyond his six-figure speaking fees, there are also a myriad of undisclosed contributions to the former President's far-flung charitable endeavors and to his presidential library, many of which have come from foreign interests that his wife would be dealing with as Secretary of State.

(snip)

In negotiations with the Obama transition team, the Wall Street Journal first reported, the Clintons have offered to disclose the identities of all future donors to Bill's charitable activities, as well as givers of major past contributions. (What constitutes "major" is still under discussion, though a source involved in the conversation tells TIME that the figure is likely to be $1 million or more.) Trickier to manage is the role the former President would play going forward. Should his wife become the country's top diplomat, President No. 42 would probably be required to get clearance from both the White House counsel's office and the State Department's ethics boss before accepting future donations or giving paid speeches.

(snip)

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1860727,00.html
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:27 AM
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1. I don't think Obama wants her.
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 01:28 AM by Zombie2
:shrug:

Weird how she keeps getting mentioned for this.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:28 AM
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2. Obama is a big boy. If he did not want here he would not have offered her
the position.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:29 AM
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3. I didn't know he offered her the position....
...link?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:54 AM
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5. Obama Close to Choosing Clinton, Jones for Key Posts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/21/AR2008112103981.html

This is from the Washington Post. The rumors about "leaks" come from the Huffington Post that is openly hostile to Clinton. More than to McCain even.

Huffington appeared on ABC last Sunday and was really catty about Hillary.

Look, if all these were inventions from the Clinton camp, do you think that the Obama people would not have said anything? During the primaries and the general campaigns they were very quick to respond immediately to rumors and comments that were not true. Why not do the same now?

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 01:35 AM
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13. These people are just trying to undermine Obama's percieved crediblity.
They don't actually give a shit, they just think they can say whatever bullshit and get hits on websites.

Obama will prove them all assholes.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:30 AM
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4. I read an article about how the Hillarys fabricated...
the first "leak" about Obama wanting her for SOS.

A nasty campaign... all that crap she started about Barack... and now this.

How low can we go?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 04:14 AM
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8. I dunno, how low can YOU go?
As Chevy Chase might say, the primaries are still over.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 10:22 PM
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10. Just because the primaries are over...
doesn't mean I'm automatically going to forget what took place.

BTW, I think Chevy Chase is a funny guy.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 11:26 PM
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11. I won't forget either. You imply the Obama side has a monopoly on grievances.
That is FAR from the truth.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 12:35 AM
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12. If Obama didn't want her. She wouldn't get it. The Election is over
He doesn't have to satisfy her supporters. And there is no short of people who want the job, who are more qualified than she is for it
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:04 AM
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6. Obama is demonstrating that what he wrote in Audacity of Hope is REAL.
He's adopting the approach he SAID he was going to use.

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EconomicLiberal Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:13 AM
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7. Why is Obama basing his entire presidency on a book gimmick? n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 04:25 AM
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9. yes, yes. Obama is basing his ENTIRE presidency on
on Doris Kearns Goodwin's book.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 01:53 AM
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14. A book gimmick?
His whole campaign was about building bridges, about moving away from partisanship and this is what he is doing. That people here find faults is really sad.
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