Monk06
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Fri Nov-28-08 01:24 AM
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Canada's Steven Hoover Harper has gone too far this time. We may be going |
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Edited on Fri Nov-28-08 01:42 AM by gbrooks
to the polls again this Spring. The Libs, NDP and the Bloc look like they are ready to bring down the Tories with a non confidence motion. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/11/27/question-period.html
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Sen. Walter Sobchak
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Fri Nov-28-08 01:35 AM
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1. this can only go badly... |
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The Liberals don't have a leader - and the New Democrats would be better off if they didn't have one at all.
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Monk06
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Fri Nov-28-08 01:46 AM
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2. Dion is a corpse left too long in the sun Ignatieff, Layton and most importantly |
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Edited on Fri Nov-28-08 01:55 AM by gbrooks
Duceppe are pissed because the Tories want to eliminate government funding of political parties.
The Tories want the same system as the US where corporations control the government through financial contributions.
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Fri Nov-28-08 02:20 AM
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3. that would be a great gift to Obama |
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having a friendly government north of the border
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Monk06
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Fri Nov-28-08 02:28 AM
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4. I just want Harper gone. He's a smart version of Sarah Palin a MEAN, AVENGElical |
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with a big ass personal ax to grind because he couldn't get laid at University. The classic resentful RW nerd.
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Winnipegosis
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Fri Nov-28-08 02:54 AM
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5. No way we'll have another election over this. |
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BTW, comparing Harper to Palin in any way ( mean, evangelical...) is just crazy.
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Monk06
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Fri Nov-28-08 04:12 AM
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7. I qualified my comparison of Harper and Palin. Nobody gives Palin credit for |
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her determination and ambition. Remember Harper eliminated all his competitors, Preston Manning (another prairie evangelical), and Stockwell Day.
Besides a visceral hatred of those less fortunate than himself, a trait he shares with Palin, he like Palin is ignorant of cultural affairs and hates intellectuals.
What I am saying is both Harper and Palin are typical right wing populists. They want to recreate a world that never existed and destroy everything in their path in order to do so.
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Winnipegosis
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Fri Nov-28-08 04:36 AM
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9. The nature of leadership is to "eliminate" your competitors |
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and that's politics.
Don't get me wrong, Harper is a cunning person, but "visceral hatred"?: that's a bit much.
And he wants to "recreate a world that never existed."? I don't see it that way at all. Heck, Gary Doer has nothing but good things to say about him.
He's far from the monster some people make him out to be.
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Monk06
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Fri Nov-28-08 06:13 AM
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12. I thought the same as you a year ago. He's basically a good guy. A little |
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Edited on Fri Nov-28-08 06:14 AM by gbrooks
square but competent. But then he declares war against the Canada Council and Arts funding. Say goodbye to the Arts industry in this country which has flourished under state funding and tax breaks for the Arts. Without arts funding Cirque du Soleil would never have gone beyond street theater.
Now Cirque is a multi billion dollar business employing performers from around the world.
Under Harper Cirque would have never left the streets of Montreal.
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RFKHumphreyObama
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Fri Nov-28-08 03:30 AM
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6. Harper may have a game plan here |
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If another election is held so soon after the last one, Harper could probably make quite a strong case about how minority government is preventing him from governing effectively during an economic crisis and how the Liberals and minor parties are supposedly playing politics over the national interest. With Dion an ineffectual lame duck and the minor parties set to remain as minor parties, Harper would be in a good position to win a decisive majority government
An early election can only benefit Harper
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Monk06
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Fri Nov-28-08 04:20 AM
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8. Harper is going to eliminate large numbers of government jobs and is thumbing |
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his nose at Ontario factory workers claiming that he will balance the budget when every economist says that is not possible in the present crisis.
He's either lying about his intentions or he's a typical Tory in the Diefenbaker mold. Stubborn miserly and mean.
Canadians won't tolerate that. If it comes to an election on the budget he is proposing he will go down.
Prairie conservatives will never learn that they are outnumbered and unloved by Ontario and Quebec
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Winnipegosis
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Fri Nov-28-08 04:39 AM
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10. That makes some sense |
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but it could also backfire on him if voters get pissed off about having another election so soon after Oct. 14ths affair.
Plus, he'd have to answer for the do-nothing budget.
It wouldn't be a gimme majority, IMO.
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Fri Nov-28-08 04:46 AM
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11. Peaches for Prime Minister! |
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Saw her in Berlin and found her awesome!
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