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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 07:36 AM
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Media Matters Busts Christopher Hitchen's Dishonest Campaign Against Hillary Clinton
Summary: Criticizing Sen. Hillary Clinton over her possible appointment as secretary of state, in three separate appearances, Christopher Hitchens purported to quote Clinton from 15 years ago to attack her foreign policy credentials. On MSNBC and CNN, from November 17-19, Hitchens claimed that Clinton directed her husband in 1993 not to intervene in the Balkans because it would detract attention from her health-care program. But the source he has previously cited for the assertion does not support it.

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Contemplating the possible nomination of Sen. Hillary Clinton to be secretary of state, commentator and author Christopher Hitchens, a frequent and harsh Clinton critic, revived the unsubstantiated claim that Hillary Clinton blocked any action by the Clinton administration in war-torn Bosnia in 1993 because she didn't want it to interfere with passage of her health-care plan. In reviving the claim on MSNBC's Hardball, MSNBC's 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and CNN's Larry King Live between November 17 and November 19, Hitchens purported to quote Hillary Clinton demanding of Bill Clinton that he not intervene in Bosnia, lest, in Hitchens' words on the November 17 Hardball, it "spoil my wonderful health-care plan, which should be front and center." In a March 31 article for Slate.com, Hitchens cited Sally Bedell Smith's For Love of Politics: Bill and Hillary Clinton: The White House Years for the claim that Hillary Clinton blocked Clinton administration intervention in Bosnia, but the book does not support Hitchens' claim; it does not mention Hitchens' purported quote or otherwise assert that Hillary Clinton directed Bill Clinton not to take action in Bosnia.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200811210008?f=h_top
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atimetocome Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 08:47 AM
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1. and Idiots believe that drunk!!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:15 AM
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30. I love a good rodeo.
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atimetocome Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 08:54 AM
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2. K and R
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 09:02 AM
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3. K & R, Why People
listen to that pig, I'll never know.
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atimetocome Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:33 AM
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21. and why is gets asked to be a quest is telling. The media has no shame.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 09:18 AM
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4. Hitchens probably just had tee many martoonis
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desktop Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 09:19 AM
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5. Hitchens and Dick Morris, two peas in a pod
They both are trying to make careers out of attacking the Clintons. Otherwise they would have no careers at all. The saddest thing I saw in the Democratic primary race was the Obama supporters using Dick Morris as their source to attack Hillary in the campaign. When you start using right wing talking points as your source, you're no better than the source.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 12:24 AM
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15. Hey, that is just not true that Hitchens made his name attacking the Clintons:
He also slagged Mother Teresa.

You stay classy, Hitch...
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 09:29 AM
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6. Hitchens
is a lush.
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Silence Dogood Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 10:53 AM
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7. But...but..
Hitchens is the most discredited journalist out there.

It is said, he can be bought for--- 2 Lolly-pops and a bottle of scotch.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:26 AM
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8. cheaper than that
It only takes 1 lolly pop and an empty bottle of Ripple to buy him over. :)
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Silence Dogood Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:38 AM
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11. bwahahahaha!
nothing's changed. Still as witty as ever!

Happy Turkey Day to you and WW.

I must go now, my days on this earth are numbered.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:26 AM
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9. K&R
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Silence Dogood Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:35 AM
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10. Hitchens in dream sequence
thats the usual soap opera term when a character needs a reintroduction of their character's persona. Hitchen's motive sounds Kerry driven. Poor John Boy!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 03:05 PM
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12. Nobody had a gun to her head when she lied about Tuzla, Ireland peace process, and SCHIP.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:15 AM
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19. Yeah, Hillary can get a little silly sometimes. But she's always dignified
I wouldn't have picked her as SecState, but she's not just a walking disaster waiting to happen, which is all I can say for Captain Bligh.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:25 AM
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31. Oh god... the freepers would be so proud. n/t
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:35 PM
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13. Hitchens? Oh yeah, that drunken ass.
Why would anyone take him seriously?

:crazy:
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:51 PM
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14. who cares what hitchens says anyways?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 01:29 AM
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16. I am shocked that a drunken conservative nutbag would be dishonest.
My world-view is shattered.
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 01:30 AM
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17. classic quote from Hitchens
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/von-hoffmann--7.html

"Sen. Obama cannot possibly believe, and doesn't even act as if he believes, that he can be elected president of the United States next year," - Hitchens, September 24, 2007
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 02:41 PM
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25. LOL...what a maroon.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:10 AM
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18. Just a mean drunk. I can't believe all those DUers were cheering him for his anti-God book
He's a just a mean misanthrope. He likes tearing people down and preens himself about what a great wit he is about it. But even when he gets it right, as with torture, I feel a little ickie taking his side. His anti-God book was about as profound as the stoned rants of a 10th grade pothead -- You clean up a statement like "Dude, religion is like so bogus. Like, religion starts all those wars and crusades and stuff," and you basically have Hitchens's refutation of theism.

He effectively disproved the existence of Santa Claus but didn't waste a word on the actual theological debates that serious intellectuals engage in. I don't think Hitch knows how to respectfully disagree, unless he's arguing with a TV host whose caboose he has to smooch in order to get booked again.

His hatred of the Clintons has never been rational--it's just another venue for him to ingratiate himself with the chumps who buy his words.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:33 AM
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20. I don't remember a lot of "cheering" in the Atheists forum ... eom
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:17 AM
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22. I don't read that forum. But he got quite a few rave reviews in GD a/o GDP
He spoke forcefully to some DUers' prejudices. That always wins you a few fans.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:26 AM
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23. There are people who post here in a child-like manner
Some of them may actually be minors.

There are people who post here to make trouble. I have seen fans of the domestic automakers, Hillary, Sheehan, Pelosi, Sherrod Brown, and even solar energy suffer on account of such "behavior" in posts here. (Fans of Joseph Smith, for that matter)

It's best to look the other way. I know it's hard to do. There are a lot of people on my ignore list.

Moving right along
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 01:33 PM
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24. Thank your for your long, thoughtful and nuanced response which I can't read
...as I have put all stinky butts on my ignore list. :o)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:24 PM
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26. From driving, I reached a conclusion that 10% of drivers are assholes
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 08:27 PM by TheBorealAvenger
You just gave me a data point for the internet.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:49 PM
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27. He is a brilliant writer, however. I don't see how anyone can objectively
look at his gift of the pen and not admire his work for at least a moment, even if you disagree with every last thing he wrote.

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 01:14 AM
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28. Hitch is still Pissed that Bill Screwed his girlfriend at Oxford
He's never gotten over that---
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:13 AM
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29. Fuck off, I like Hitchens...
He does not like HRC, so what.
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