The Hillary camp's latest spin...if Obama doesn't pick her its because he isn't strong enough.

[dkf]

Every time you see an article praising Obama for being so confident that he can have Hillary as SOS, its actually saying the reverse...that if he can't its because he is insecure or some other claptrap. Hillary and her people are trying to play with Obama's mind through the media. I find it disgusting.

[lamp_shade]

1. Say what?

[Dis Pater]

3. It's opposite day

[lamp_shade]

10. Ah. I see. I thought OP was serious for a minute there.

[BeFree]

2. Durn

You know stuff none of us every even imagined. Its nice to know we have an insider here posting on DU! Too bad you are so ineffectual, tho.

[dkf]

6. Sometimes I wonder if anyone understands when they are being

psychologically manipulated.

I'm beginning to think not.

[BeFree]

7. Yes, you are. Not very good at it, tho. n/t

[LostinVA]

34. hahahahahhaha

[cali]

20. Or perhaps you might entertain the possibility that you're inventing

silly little conspiracy theories with no facts to back them up.

[wyldwolf]

24. Cali... NO! ... wait ... ya think??

[greguganus]

74. Is this from The Onion? n/t

[Cosmic Charlie]

75. of course the marionettes can't see their strings

[Cosmic Charlie]

76. ...

[sufrommich]

4. She has spread her tentacles throughout the media and

controls everything!!!!!

[QC]

29. She turned me into a newt!

[DevonRex]

42. Can you look in the mirror and tell me what a newt looks like?

I've always wondered that but have never personally spoken with a newt before. We should probably do something to ensure equal rights for newts now, since HRC seemed to turn so many people into them. Or is this the first phase of Operation World Domination By Newt? If so, I want you to know that I adore newts. Love 'em. Can't get enough of 'em. :evilgrin:

[QC]

50. I got better. n/t

[Balderdash]

66. Perfect usage. Love me some Monty Python. nt

[wyldwolf]

5. The He-Man Hillary Hater's Club

They have spies planted at Hillary Headquarters and they just "know" these things.

[dkf]

8. Who's a man, me? I think not.

Minority female thank you.

I love how you assume women can't dislike Hillary. And don't tell me its because I don't appreciate strong women. I love Michelle and I think she is waaaay stronger than Hillary.

[wyldwolf]

12. ha ha. It all gets lost on you, doesn't it?

[dkf]

25. You are the clueless one.

Either that or you can tolerate behavior I find unacceptable.

FYI, I didn't have a clue about how much I would find objectionable about her until Howard Dean ran. Then I started to look at her closer. But things didn't really come into focus until this primary and now I find her and her brand of politics beyond the pale. I was almost sold on the idea of having her piss from inside the tent blah blah blah, but then I realized she can't help but stink up the place.

I really hope Obama comes to his senses and picks someone else. She will be nothing but a headache. What a disaster.

[wyldwolf]

27. sure. right.

[Balderdash]

69. Why are you a bitter Asian? nt

[polichick]

9. Fortunately, Obama is smarter than any of them...

The very same tactics were used when he was choosing veep. We don't have to worry ~ if he does choose her, his reasons will have to do with his agenda.

[dkf]

16. The only use I can see for her is if Obama can use her to fool the Neocons into

into settling the IP thing.

Other than that, I don't have confidence in the depth of her foreign policy knowledge or her charm. If he wants to politically box her in, then I also think that is a sad statement about her. Frankly I don't get it.

[polichick]

22. imo her camp is too much of a pain in the ass to even consider it seriously...

...but he may want her out of the Senate, where some think she'd fight for her healthcare plan instead of his (among other things) ~ and possibly run against him in 2012.

[dkf]

26. Which goes to her character and the popular opinion that she is for what she wants

not what he wants.

[Balderdash]

70. Popular opinion? Oh, you mean the tinfoil popular opinion...

[John Q. Citizen]

81. He wants her out of the Senate. He can fire her in a few months and Hill will go

back to NY.

Maybe she will run for Governor and her and Sarah can chat at Governor's conventions.

[JVS]

11. They certainly are able to twist and spin.

[sufrommich]

13. Who is "they"? Is the LA Times in on the conspiracy? nt

[JVS]

14. The Hillary camp.

[sufrommich]

15. Was there a coup at the LA Times?

[JVS]

17. Who mentioned them?

[sufrommich]

18. lol! So this isn't in reference to the LA Times article?

What ARE you referring to? Link?

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[sniffa]

78. I see some deleted messages in this subthread

I assume it's between you and ignored. :popcorn:

[atimetocome]

28. Conjuring up more rumors is what I see the OP doing. No

facts. Just dividing the Democrats by hitting on the so-called Hillary camp.

[JohnnyLib2]

30. The real goal is world domination, and it's well underway.

Once he bought into the nomination deal, the stage was set; watch for her worldwide media blitz in a couple of months.

Note: this post might be :sarcasm: -- or is it?

[LostinVA]

33. Because I kept my avatar, I get to be on staff at HRC World Domination Central

[JohnnyLib2]

36. Yes, there are overt and covert operations.

Many spooks in Va. ...............

[LostinVA]

84. I live in NO NJ now -- I'm interested in the Sabotage United Nations division

[JohnnyLib2]

89. Remember--

Turkey Swamp

[snake in the grass]

46. The goal is not world domination.

Hillary is the leader of several battalions of shock troops from the Orion Belt sent to Earth on a mission to collect our flatulence in order to power their nacho factories.

Don't be fooled into believing otherwise!

[Vattel]

67. without a link to Weekly World News I won't believe it.

[JohnnyLib2]

83. No link, but......their story

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Posted on 21 November 2008

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[Vattel]

92. LOL. I was hoping that

the Burueau of Mutant Affairs appointment would go to Dean (only a mutant can scream like that), but maybe Obama wants to keep Obatma close because it's better for a mutant bat to be inside of the cave pissing all over the place (because bats can't see worth a shit and that radar thing never works very well judging by their pointless changes of direction) than to be outside of the cave trying to get in so they can use the restroom but ending up in Alaska (because they can't see worth a shit) and then impregnating Sarah Palin and producing a mutant race of winking bats that can't even see Russia.

[LaydeeBug]

31. link? This sounds like utter BULLSHIT. nt

[desktop]

32. Up is down, black is white, good is bad.

Amazing how you can read the reverse meaning in articles. And where is this Hillary conspiracy group that is coordinating this giant mind control? I could care less if Hillary is Secretary of State or not, but people like you are what gives right wingers ammunition to call Democrats morons.

[JohnnyLib2]

38. Where, you ask?

Embedded--here, there, everywhere.

[ShortnFiery]

45. But that's the point: It's not "right" vs "left" BUT = "corporatists" vs "populists"

HRC is a DLC corporatist and I want to believe that Obama is a populist. However, I'm beginning to lose faith. If he doesn't raise taxes on the bloated upper 1% of income earners, then we will know that it was all "for show" and we'll be in a feudal system. Crimping and begging for the scraps from our "Corporate Masters."

[leftofcool]

35. She also directly responsible for global warming

[JohnnyLib2]

37. Odd that no one connects the Clinton-Gore dots.

The plan is working.....

[LostinVA]

85. Duh -- that's what the anonymous blogger they quoted on FR said

Of course it's true!

[mtnsnake]

39. You say this is the Hillary camp's spin, yet you provide ZERO proof & no link

You'd be better off if you just admitted that this is YOUR spin.

I find it disgusting.

What's more disgusting is how you and your ilk find new ways every day to take the focus off our incredible victory November 4th by pissing and moaning about the first thing that comes to your mind, usually the Clintons, and finding any other ways you can to drive wedges into our Party.

[terrya]

40. You Hillary haters are so darned silly.

You're all just a bunch of silly-billies.

[ShortnFiery]

43. Be careful. The right wing is well-known for calling people "Bush-haters" REFLEXIVELY

There's a common thread between right wing and "centrist" democrats that is seemingly radical and disquieting to us more "populist" and "liberal" members.

I'll admit to not particularly liking HRC as "a person" but that is beside the point that IMO she does not deserve the peoples' trust based on past behavior. :shrug:

[shayes51]

41. Obama won the nomination and then the

presidency. Once defeated, Hillary Clinton campaigned for Obama without ceasing. Her supporters came over to Obama and voted for him. And yet, you still can't cut her any slack. I find THAT disgusting.

[Skip Intro]

44. what did it look like?

the koo koo's nest - as you flew over?

[Metric System]

47. Oh good grief. This is insanity. If Hillary has such control over the press, you'd think she'd order

more positive coverage of herself.

[Honeycombe8]

48. I'm sure he doesn't care what others say. He'll make his decision on his own, with Axelrod

and other close advisers' advice.

I'm sure he doesn't care what Hillary supporters have to say about the matter. He's going to pick the SOS that he thinks will be best for the country and his administration.

[Enrique]

49. your Hillary fantasies are very elaborate

:toast:

[Lilith Velkor]

52. And they don't even involve latex or wooden paddles!

My hat is off.

[paulk]

51. you should be applauded for the courage you show

in making your neurosis vis a vis the Clintons public.

It's the first step toward healing...

[mtnsnake]

57. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[paulk]

93. and this gets locked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7934072

the truth hurts...

[mtnsnake]

96. No kidding

How predictable and biased was that. There was absolutely no rational reason to lock that thread. It was truthful, it wasn't flame bait at all, and it was tactfully written. Talk about unfair justice, that was another blatant example.

[joshcryer]

97. See that star by your name?

It's the reason the garbage continues. If the mods come down on paying members of the site then that's one less donation.

[Lyric]

53. OMG! It's a CONSPIRACY!

I heard that Hillary Clinton sends magic ninjas in black helicopters to spread chemtrails and plant tsunami machines, too!

:tinfoilhat:

[JohnnyLib2]

54. 11/28/08

check

[AtomicKitten]

55. same manipulative bullshit, different office

[polichick]

56. Wonder if Obama wishes he never invited her to Chicago for a chat...

Sure didn't see any of these articles about Richardson's visit, or any of the others.

Reminds me of junior high school when someone's posse spreads a big dating story because the cute guy or girl spoke to them.

[mtnsnake]

58. Hey maybe you can start a rumor about it and post it as an OP like the one here w/no links

Who needs proof?

[GarbagemanLB]

59. Of course it's true! Everything bad that is said about the Clinton's is automatically true.

:rofl:

[polichick]

61. It's a fact that Richardson, Kerry and others were able to meet with Obama...

...without their people leaking an exaggerated scoop to Andrea Mitchell or anyone else.

Just the way the Clintons play the game ~ you can like it or not. I think it's tacky.

[GarbagemanLB]

62. ...or, and this is a HUGE leap, it COULD be that the media loves creating a dramatic

narrative between Clinton and Obama?


No! That couldn't possibly be true!

[polichick]

63. Could be true, except Andrea reported that it came from sources close to Clinton.

[Lilith Velkor]

88. Wrong

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27832013

"Transition sources and Democratic officials told NBC News that the Obama team and the Clintons have worked out potential problems..."

"But a senior Obama advisor said the president-elect has been enthusiastic about naming Clinton to the post from the start..."

[polichick]

90. That was later, the ones who blabbed to Andrea just after the meeting...

...were close to Hillary ~ and at that point Obama was still meeting with Richardson.

[Lilith Velkor]

91. No linky, no believe-y.

Try again.

[polichick]

60. Come on - you must not be watching ANY news if you've missed the endless stories...

Why the denial ~ it started with Andrea Mitchell's big "breaking news" and hasn't stopped.

[Life Long Dem]

64. This isn't about Hillary. It never has been.

It's about dividing the party.

We all have been hearing about lefties, liberals, righties, center, and everything else in between to "divide and conquer'.


Guess what? There is only one Democratic party. And also they like to twist the rules to accommodate the attacks on Obama.

[polichick]

65. Then WHY did her people run straight to Andrea Mitchell...

...following Hillary's meeting with Obama ~ they should have stayed as quiet as Richardson's people or Kerry's people.

[Life Long Dem]

94. How do we know what happened?

Because a rumor is... "an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumor

[Vattel]

95. whiich people?

I haven't followed all of this closely, but I read that Andrea Mitchell said that it was Obama advisors who told her about Clinton being Obama's first choice for SOS.

[S_E_Fudd]

68. I see it's "Let's Pretend" time at DU...

How cute

[joshcryer]

71. Uh, you people are saying he's *weak* if he picks her.

Which is it?

[gkhouston]

72. I used sage to season my dressing yesterday... someone must be using a different substance. n/t

[mtnester]

73. I see it is Make Crap Up Friday n/t

[Cosmic Charlie]

77. this thread is like BigCatnip

[Zombie2]

79. It IS uber disgusting........ to say the least.

I really liked the Clintons until the primaries.... her camp got way too nasty. I lost a lot of respect for her.

[wyldwolf]

80. :(

[Maven]

82. I think there's a typo in your subject heading. Should read: "dkf's latest fantasy..."

[LostinVA]

87. hahahaha

[BootinUp]

86. lol nt.