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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 01:48 AM
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Bidentity Crisis: Where's Joe?
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 01:48 AM by davidpdx
First, let me say I'm posting this because it's amusing. Given the fact Obama has not yet been sworn in, most of the stuff is going to be behind the scenes and I'm sure that Biden is well involved with that stuff.

CHICAGO — More than three weeks into the transition, and Vice-President elect Joe Biden generates less buzz than the non-existent first puppy.

The vice president-elect has not spoken publicly since the election, and was at Barack Obama's side just once this week as the president-elect delivered a series of grim news conferences on the economy.

Obama instead appears to be at the center of his longtime Chicago circle.

His chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, and senior adviser David Axelrod were each at two of Obama's press conferences, and Valerie Jarrett, another senior adviser, joined him during a media-frenzied local lunch stop last Friday. Emanuel and Axelrod have also both already made the rounds on the Sunday morning talk shows, where Biden used to be a familiar face.

"I think as the president-elect gets to know the vice president-elect and understands his strengths, he'll rely on him a little more," said Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who has known Biden for 30 years. "Right now you're almost in the campaign mode still and so you really rely on the people who've been around since the beginning."

"He's stared down dictators and spoken out for American cops and firefighters," Obama said as he introduced Biden in Springfield, Ill. on a Saturday in late August. "He is uniquely suited to be my partner as we work to put our country back on track."

But even on the trail the tightly controlled campaign kept a close watch on the gaffe-prone Biden as he was dispatched to court Jews in South Florida and blue-collar workers in Pennsylvania.

Nor has his role as vice president, a high-profile office with at best nebulous powers, yet been defined, leaving a vacuum filled only with speculation. Amid reports that Obama will name Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State the question swirled: What about Biden? Foreign policy was supposed to be his domain.

"You think he wasn't in on that conversation?" a source involved with the transition asked rhetorically.

Yet in a column last week The Washington Post's David Ignatius called Biden "the incredible shrinking vice president-elect."

"Where is he these days?" Ignatius wonders. "Do they have him in a box? He can't be happy at the idea of considering Clinton as foreign policy tsarina — wasn't Biden's foreign policy savvy the reason he was picked?"

Those close to Biden say he views his role as providing counsel to the president — a function that's often not visible to the public — and that he is doing just that.

Like their recent predecessors, Obama and Biden have met for weekly one-on-one lunches since the election. Biden has also been at every key transition meeting and has had private discussions with Obama on the phone when the vice president-elect has regularly returned from the transition base in Chicago to his home in Delaware.

"He's been very closely involved in the key decisions," said former Senator Bob Graham (D-Fla.), who is working with the Obama transition on intelligence. "He and the president-elect have a very good personal chemistry."

The transition made a point last week of giving reporters unsolicited quotes of Obama and Biden joking with each other, details about birthday gifts Obama gave him and photographic evidence of the scene where Obama surprised Biden with 12 cupcakes a day before the vice president-elect's 66th birthday. It appeared like a staged effort to reassure the public that Obama and Biden are still the get-along duo voters saw during the campaign.

Those who are close to Biden say they see him taking on a key role in the administration. He could prove to be the White House's most valuable liaison in the Senate when it comes to keeping Congress in line with the administration's legislative agenda, they say. Obama could use him to weigh in foreign policy and domestic security, and he could be involved in justice issues, having served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

"Joe Biden is someone who wears very, very well — the more you get to know him the more you get to like him," said Rendell, who will meet with Obama and Biden next Tuesday at a governors conference in Philadelphia.

"I think as the process continues, he will be a very important vice president."

The vice presidential office's role, which expanded tremendously during the Bush administration. Dick Cheney is viewed by many as the most powerful vice president in American history and as a chief architect of the war in Iraq.

The office's role will likely shrink back to something closer to its usual size after Obama takes office.

Biden famously called Cheney "the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history." But his criticism of Cheney's interpretation of the office perhaps offers the most telling clues about the kind of vice president Joe Biden will be.

In another dig at Cheney during the vice-presidential debate in October, Biden cited Article I in the Constitution to say that the vice president has no legislative authority except to be the tie vote in the Senate.

"And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote," Biden said. "The Constitution is explicit."

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=DFD0A160-18FE-70B2-A8BFD65FC84D7AAA
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 01:52 AM
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1. Joe will have plenty of assignments and portfolios to occupy his time.
He is a consummate example of the axiom "a workhorse, not a show horse."
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 01:53 AM
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2. Agreed
He is going to be a key in the behind the scenes stuff. He may not always get the credit he deserves, but we still appreciate his work.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:35 PM
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15. He's not a show pony like Moose Princess.
That's why he perplexes the media's simple brains.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:01 AM
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9. Yep, he expressly said that his role would be to...
.... move the President's policy through the Congress.

Heck, Congress isn't even on Capitol Hill right now.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 02:05 AM
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3. Nantucket
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:54 AM
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8. LOL....a simple trip now is a real pain with all the Secret Service
Life definitely changes after you become VP or Prez
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 02:58 AM
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4. Is Politico covered by Fair Use Rules ???
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:02 AM
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5. Perhaps Polico can interview him then.......
It's not like they paid any attention to him before.....
Not like the love of their lives, Palin. :eyes:

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 05:15 PM
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11. Word!
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:10 AM
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6. Heh - - Politico

What clowns. I love the blitheringly stupid premise that foreign policy was "supposed to be Joe's domain," and thus the planned nomination of Hillary as SoS somehow cuts him out of the process. Because, you know, there's only a finite amount of foreign policy knowledge that can be brought to bear in a crisis. :eyes: Silly Politico.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:42 AM
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7. What is up with Politico, they seem to run lots of "speculation" articles lately with no real
content. They really have no idea what will happen with Hillary at S0S or why Obama might choose her, what say Joe had in it if he picked her. Its just silly speculation and no real news reporting. How did Politico get big anyways? Roger Simon is the same guy who once predicted that WMDs were hidden in Syria.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 05:18 PM
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12. They've gotten big cause we allowed it...by posting their tripe here
every chance we get.

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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 05:55 PM
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13. I actually think there are a lot of well written opinion pieces...
But that's what politico is these days. They are speculating about Obama's cabinet picks.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:56 PM
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10. MSM doesn't think Biden is nearly as colorful as Clinton or Palin.
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 05:21 PM by AtomicKitten
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:24 PM
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14. He's filling up his bucket of warm spit
Most likely though, Biden is very busy behind the scenes. It's just that he is not on the media's radar screen.
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