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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:22 PM
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President Vaclav Havel...meet President Barack Obama.
"It would be very unreasonable to understand the sad legacy of the last forty years as something alien, which some distant relative bequeathed to us. On the contrary, we have to accept this legacy as a sin we committed against ourselves. If we accept it as such, we will understand that it is up to us all, and up to us alone to do something about it. We cannot blame the previous rulers for everything, not only because it would be untrue, but also because it would blunt the duty that each of us faces today: namely, the obligation to act independently, freely, reasonably and quickly. Let us not be mistaken: the best government in the world, the best parliament and the best president, cannot achieve much on their own. And it would be wrong to expect a general remedy from them alone. Freedom and democracy include participation and therefore responsibility from us all.

In the effort to rectify matters of common concern, we have something to lean on. The recent period - and in particular the last six weeks of our peaceful revolution - has shown the enormous human, moral and spiritual potential, and the civic culture that slumbered in our society under the enforced mask of apathy. Whenever someone categorically claimed that we were this or that, I always objected that society is a very mysterious creature and that it is unwise to trust only the face it presents to you. I am happy that I was not mistaken. Everywhere in the world people wonder where those meek, humiliated, skeptical and seemingly cynical citizens of Czechoslovakia found the marvelous strength to shake the totalitarian yoke from their shoulders in several weeks, and in a decent and peaceful way. And let us ask: Where did the young people who never knew another system get their desire for truth, their love of free thought, their political ideas, their civic courage and civic prudence? How did it happen that their parents -- the very generation that had been considered lost -- joined them? How is it that so many people immediately knew what to do and none needed any advice or instruction?"

http://old.hrad.cz/president/Havel/speeches/1990/0101_uk.html

I am grateful to those who have set a precedent for us to follow.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:30 PM
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1. Obama took a very traditional path to the presidency, Havel did not. nt
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:37 PM
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2. I'm glad that you've enjoyed the highly positive, forward-looking sentiments.
I see it as positive change, world-wide.

See the similarities, not the differences ;) :hug:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:48 PM
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3. Ever Heard of IONS...?
The Institute of Noetic Sciences, I used to be a member for my early college years and really enjoyed the quarterly Reviews...
I knew I remembered the name Vaclav Havel... I had read one or more articles involving him and really was inspired by his approach.
Hmm, I think I remember thinking "THIS has to be leadership of the future..."


YAY for US! We got one! A real visionary for a leader! Whew!


for kicks, here's some of the articles I remember:


http://www.noetic.org/publications/review/issue18/r18_Symynkywicz.html
"Vaclav Havel & the Politics of HOPE" winter 1995

http://www.noetic.org/publications/review/issue40/r40_Palmer.html
"Vaclav Havel, Leading from Within" winter 1996

http://www.noetic.org/publications/review/issue35/r35_Twist.html
"global Transformation" august 1995


It is cool that this information and this "movement" has been going on fo so long...simply because it is growing to become a critical mass of people beginning to understand how we are to create working and humane governments, and societies...
Yes, the wars and terrorist acts have ben a blemish on the forward motion at large, but I would like to think we are doing better collectively, that the world truly does choose Peace and Prosperity over the other...
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:45 PM
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4. Hi Journalgrrl, I believe you are correct: We now have a real leader.
Thank you very much for the links. I wasn't aware of IONS and will check it out, and Vaclav's other writings. I believe that we need to make a lot of change in the country, and intensely positive motivational writing such as Vaclav's will be almost canon.

I believe that I first learned of Vaclav in an excellent Bruce Sterling (science fiction) book. The Zenith Angle (all of Bruce's work is great).
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:24 PM
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5. Kick for truth.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:11 PM
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6. Kick for truth.
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