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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:00 PM
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Can we rename the department of "Homeland Security?"
It's always had vaguely Nazi-ish overtones.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:03 PM
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1. Thank you for saying that.
Edited on Sun Nov-30-08 02:03 PM by terrya
Actually, I'm in favor of abolishing it entirely. Return the agencies as they were before.

But you're right..."Homeland Security" sounds uncomfortably "The Triumph of the Will" like.
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:11 PM
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5. "Return the agencies as they were before."
I agree. The larger agency was never needed in the first place. It was a convenient way to weed out money from agencies that the Bushies thought were not needed, like FEMA. It did also give a very Nazi sounding name to the whole thing, thus appealing to the Uber-Patriots in Bush's base. :puke:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:04 PM
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2. Someone suggested "National Security"
IMO that would be better and take some of the Nazi-soundingness out.
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 05:11 PM
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27. I suggested that one
on another thread, but someone else may have as well. Dept. of Domestic Security sounds good too. I sure hope Obama is considering this. I always hated the name "Homeland Security" it just doesn't sound right and doesn't fit in with all of the other US government agencies' names.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:05 PM
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3. Even "Domestic Security" would be a big improvement. n/t
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:07 PM
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4. Protection Of Our Fatherland To Eliminate Resistance?
the POOFTER department?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:37 PM
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12. I'm partial to "Vaterland".
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:11 PM
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6. I still hold out hope that Obama will establish some kind of study
group or bi-partisan commission to review the whole "Homeland Security" department and submit recommendations. It's hard to believe that this behemoth of a department actually improves our security, even if you're naive enough to believe in it's good intentions.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:13 PM
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7. No kidding. I have always hated that name.
It reminds me of the Soviet "Motherland." Why don't they just call it U.S. Security or Domestic Security.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:26 PM
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8. Yeah, it was created for non-existent WMDs, so its existence has been invalidated. It should be
abolished.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:27 PM
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9. And let's rename the "War on Terror" too - how counterproductive is that?!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:36 PM
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11. Yeah, and expand that to a total war on "War On" names. No more "War On"s.
Edited on Sun Nov-30-08 02:36 PM by valerief
"War On"s are for morons.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:40 PM
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14. Agreed - that's one of the suggestions I made on change.gov
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:50 PM
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17. And lets also start calling the war in Iraq what it is, the occupation in Iraq
Really, there is no way to win an occupation, there is no enemy in Iraq who could put their hands up and say "we surrender America, you win the war in Iraq". If there's no enemy who can surrender to us, and therefore end the war, then it's not a war.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:08 PM
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21. People won't like "occupation" but maybe Obama could call it...
...the Iraq Withdrawal. :)
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:35 PM
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10. Yes, please. What's wrong with "Domestic Security"? n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:43 PM
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15. What's wrong with putting things back the way they were before the fascist control? nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:55 PM
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25. Exactly.. We already HAD/HAVE a Department of Defense
there was NO need to create a new department.. It was just a pay-back for Tom Ridge being overlooked, after he gave up his governorship..
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:38 PM
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13. Can't we just abolish it?
Surely some department was responsible for paying attention to security issues within our borders prior to 2002.
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:46 PM
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16. I'm all for that
:hi:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:54 PM
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18. This Department is the Ultimate Giraffe
It is the apotheosis of the Horse put together by a Committee
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:55 PM
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19. How About Just Do Away with It?
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madmadmad Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:06 PM
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20. dump the whole nazi thing! n/t
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:10 PM
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22. Department of Chocolate and Beers?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 06:35 PM
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28. Why not a department of Chocolate Beer?
:beer:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:53 PM
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29. I don't know about that.
But I'll try anything once.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:37 PM
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23. Do we really need this Dept.? Isn't that for Department of Defense, to protect our county?
Am I missing something? What did they do anyways for the last 7 years but come up with color-coded confusing crap?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:51 PM
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24. you mean the department of window dressing because that's all it really is.
and yes homeland sounds akin to Fatherland.
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Liberalboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:58 PM
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26. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!
I've always hated that name
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 09:57 PM
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30. I hate it , too
for just the reason you mentioned.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 10:02 PM
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31. !!!!!!!!!!
Please!!
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 10:05 PM
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32. I've been calling it the Dept of Homeland Stupidity for years.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 10:08 PM
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33. Disband it and shrink the bloated Bush family no-bid crony war profiteering government in half!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 10:52 PM
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34. Excellent Idea. NT
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