Jerseycoa
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Wed Jan-07-04 10:20 PM
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TNR Editorial Board Dissent: The Case for Wesley Clark |
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"But all the talk about how Clark's biography makes him electable has overwhelmed the more important point: It would also make him a good president. In the last decade, the specter of genocide arose twice in the Balkans; both times, Clark was instrumental in beating it back despite tepid support among political and military elites. In Bosnia, in 1995, Clark fought to continue bombing Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic's forces--a move that forced their withdrawal from Sarajevo and enabled the Dayton peace process, which yielded a successful peacekeeping and reconstruction operation. And, in 1999, with the world sitting idly by as thousands of ethnic Albanians were slaughtered in Kosovo, Clark--by then nato's supreme allied commander of Europe--repeatedly bucked his Pentagon superiors and pushed for intervention. He then proceeded to hold together the fractious nato alliance through a 78-day air war that succeeded in stopping the atrocities and ultimately resulted in Milosevic standing trial for war crimes.
"More than just an asset for Clark's political campaign, this diplomatic and military experience provides the brains and the brawn behind a worldview that prioritizes threats to U.S. security without sacrificing humanitarian imperatives, that seeks to solve problems through negotiation but is bolstered with a proven willingness to use force. Unlike Democratic rivals who try to demonstrate their foreign policy bona fides by showcasing their Senate votes, the retired general has actually waged the "muscular multilateralism" that his opponents use as a catchphrase. For this reason, Clark is the best solution for a Democratic Party struggling to prove it can protect the United States from terrorists and weapons of mass destruction--not only because Americans will sleep better with a general, rather than a politician, in the Oval Office, but because they'll sleep safer.
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"Clark's experience, beyond grounding his robust foreign policy, will also insulate him from the Pentagon and Republican hostility that has consistently bedeviled Democratic presidents. Whereas President Clinton and his advisers often seemed intimidated by the military--James Carville, a former Marine corporal, likes to say he was the highest-ranking military official in the administration--Clark will have no trouble standing up to the four-stars. (If he was willing to do so when they were his superiors, he surely will be when they're his subordinates.) And the moral authority he will possess as commander-in-chief will make it harder for a GOP Congress to stymie a liberal internationalist agenda that emphasizes diplomacy and treaties as tools of U.S. security and sanctions military deployment for humanitarian purposes.
"Clark may also be able to persuade the antiwar left of the merits of a true muscular multilateralism--not least through his proposal for a New American Patriotism, which aims to restore the pride that Democrats, disaffected by the Bush administration's jingoism, feel toward the flag. In part, he plans to do this by encouraging the dissent on security issues that has been discouraged, implicitly and explicitly, by Republican leaders. On the stump, Clark of ten says, "There's nothing more American--nothing more patriotic--than speaking out, questioning authority, and holding your leaders accountable." Such declarations could ease the fears of an American public that, once bitten by the deception of the Iraq war, may be twice shy about future uses of military force. If the need arose, Americans would follow Wesley Clark into war. They should follow him to the White House first." Source: Credible Threat by J. Peter Scoblic
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Wed Jan-07-04 10:23 PM
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1. cool, thanks for posting. |
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"But all the talk about how Clark's biography makes him electable has overwhelmed the more important point: It would also make him a good president. "
-- I love that line.
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Wed Jan-07-04 10:24 PM
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2. Good for TNR for posting the dissent--but they still suck |
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All of the dissents are actually pretty good.
BUT ... LIEBERMAN?!!?
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Jerseycoa
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Wed Jan-07-04 10:38 PM
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:06 PM
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10. yup. they do. they have for quite some time. |
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they used actually be left way back in the day. Now they are centrist/ zionist.
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Wed Jan-07-04 10:41 PM
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4. Impressive - so Clark does have support at the center-right TNR |
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:03 PM
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5. Why are people so hardheaded--DEAN HAS A SIMILAR PIECE |
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Hit and run snotballs. That was a DISSENT from the Lieberman endorsement. Dean got one, too.
What the hell is wrong with people?
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:04 PM
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7. Infantile reactionaries, that's all |
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:03 PM
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6. unfrigginreal is right |
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:05 PM
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8. Hey, Maybe You Should Start A Thread About Dean's TNR CenterRight Support |
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:13 PM
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If I had there'd be beating of breasts and tearing of hair. You can't fucking win around here. :D
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:06 PM
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I'm not going to read it. Because for the past year TNR has attacked Dean at every possible chance it gets.
They didn't want him from the start and made it clear.
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:10 PM
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11. Actually, it's really good--you should read it |
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Johnathan Cohn is a great writer, and did an excellent piece for Dean there. You won't regret taking a look at it.
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:12 PM
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12. I lost a lot of respect for TNR's crap-fest on Dean. |
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They attacked him more than ANY candidate and the way they did it pissed me off.
I'm sure it's good and I'm sure it's not negative, but pulling myself to actually go over to their website is enough to make me puke! lol
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:15 PM
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14. Here's the printer friendly link |
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Wed Jan-07-04 11:21 PM
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If the need arose, Americans would follow Wesley Clark into war. They should follow him to the White House first."
My sentiments exactly. I KNOW in my heart that Wes Clark will NEVER take this country into any illegal, preemptive war. He knows the repercussions of war. He has seen our soldiers die. He has seen innocent people die. He will never take us to war unless it is an ABSOLUTE LAST resort. He said that and I believe him. My heart says I'm right to feel as I do about Clark. He's the real deal. He's honorable, has integrity, , character and is a compassionate man. We SHOULD follow him to the WH!
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