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Wed Dec-17-08 04:16 PM
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Obama should ask Jeremiah Wright to pray at the inaugural, as well. |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:17 PM
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:18 PM
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4. Yep. It'll get locked soon, I'm sure. |
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But, why is Warren any better than Wright?
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:17 PM
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:20 PM
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He was Obama's pastor for 20 years---led him to Christianity, etc. Why dismiss Wright for a homophobe like Warren??
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:22 PM
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:29 PM
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21. I think it is because |
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Who the man, Reverand Wright is.
Is not who the people think he is.
He has been painted as someone he is not. Sure he has flaws, but most people are unwilling or unable to listen to what he says that make sense, knowing some is correct, some is not. Just like all of us.
So before putting him up on stage, the whole population would require being told who he is not, and who he is. Something that was not done during the election campaign.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:32 PM
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Wed Dec-17-08 05:10 PM
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44. yeah, why not? If Jeremiah shows up there will be meltdown of nuclear proportions in FR |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:18 PM
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3. imo he should've asked clergy from several faiths - mainstream, not extremist. |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:20 PM
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Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 04:21 PM by rateyes
On edit: Even though I'm a person "of faith," I don't think there should be a prayer at an inauguration of a US President.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:20 PM
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7. He should! Seriously! It would cause heads to explode everywhere.... |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:22 PM
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9. As long as he is going to choose someone controversial who has |
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made offensive remarks...why not?
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:22 PM
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8. That would bother me a lot less. Liberation theology I understand. |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:23 PM
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Most people don't understand Liberation Theology. Obama should never have left his church, IMO. But, one does what one has to do when trying to get elected. Don't blame him for it.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:25 PM
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15. Liberation theology... |
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...actually applies to gender and sex issues as well.
Wright would be an excellent choice, IMHO.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:24 PM
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12. He's not conservative. |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:25 PM
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16. And, why would one need a conservative to pray?? |
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There are liberal clergypersons...even liberal Christian ones.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:28 PM
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19. I believe Democrats feel they have liberals in the bag. |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:31 PM
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23. That's why we liberals always get shafted by our own party |
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after the election is over.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:34 PM
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But you know what? Our task is done on the election front. Now our votes have to be earned in order to maintain power. We'll see if the party gets it. There is no appearance yet they do.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:51 PM
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35. Holding them accountable is our job. nt |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:25 PM
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13. why? seriously, why should he? |
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Rev Wright and Obama had a serious personal conflict. We don't know the particulars, but it seems they're estranged, so why should he have him there. What's wrong with Reverend Lowery?
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:28 PM
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Why doesn't he have a serious conflict with Rick Warren? As long as he's going to pick someone offensive to people, why not pick someone who was his pastor for 20 years, and not a homophobe??
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:25 PM
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14. Obama should ask who he wants to ask |
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You guys want to dictate his entire life. I have never seen people wanting to micromanage a president the way you all do with Obama.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:29 PM
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And, how am I trying to "dictate" anything to Obama? And, please, answer the first question first...not that I'm trying to dictate how you respond.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:32 PM
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25. You all is all of you that dictate what he should do |
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What did you think I was trying to say?
He can't even get a puppy for his girls without folks sending him petitions about what kind to get and where to get it.
Everyone has advice for what he should do. That's dictating to me.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:36 PM
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30. Oh. I don't see it as dictating... |
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that would mean we have some kind of power to force him to do everything we want. I think of it more as expressing an opinion.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:47 PM
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34. Dictating/expressing an opinion, same difference |
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You guys seem to think he can't make decisions and he needs you to tell him what to do.
I've never seen so many people tell the President what he needs to do.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:52 PM
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37. He asked for our opinions: www.change.gov |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:54 PM
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38. So, are you going to send this suggestion to him? |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:56 PM
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I went to that website and asked him to reconsider Warren, telling him that he is as offensive to some as Rev. Wright is to others.
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Wed Dec-17-08 05:02 PM
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41. So you told him that he is damned if he does |
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and damned if he don't? That should make his decision pretty easy.
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Wed Dec-17-08 05:04 PM
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42. Damned if he does what? |
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Remove Warren? He's already damned for choosing him. Might as well be damned for a good thing.
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Wed Dec-17-08 05:09 PM
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43. And the rest of the folks would damn him for choosing Wright |
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Like I said.............
and how are you damned for a good thing? If I were Obama I would just say forget and go to Hawaii(you can't please those people). Thank God I'm not Obama.
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Wed Dec-17-08 05:15 PM
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45. You seem to think I was serious about Wright... |
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I'm using hyperbole to make a point about how offensive Rick Warren is. He shouldn't pick either one.
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Wed Dec-17-08 05:34 PM
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46. Yes I did think you were serious about Wright |
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I don't care about either of them. I'm looking forward to Rev. Joseph Lowery. He is more symbolic than Wright and/or Warren.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:27 PM
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17. Here's a thought - maybe Obama shouldn't have picked either one of them. |
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There are thousands of better choices.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:30 PM
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22. Now, THERE'S an idea. |
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A word of reason. Thank you.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:35 PM
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:33 PM
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26. Actually, that would be much better than Warren. n/t |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:34 PM
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:36 PM
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31. Wright is a talented preacher and cares about social justice. |
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Warren, on the other hand, is just a garden variety fundamentalist who has convinced a lot of people--including quite a few on DU--that he is some kind of thoughtful moderate.
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:38 PM
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33. And Obama throws Wright under the bus and embraces Warren. |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:51 PM
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36. It's very crowded here under the Hopemobile, isn't it? n/t |
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:38 PM
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no prayers. Wouldn't that be refreshing?
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Wed Dec-17-08 04:54 PM
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39. Another voice of reason. |
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