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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:02 PM
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So who would you want to do the prayer @ the inauguration?
Rick Warren w/ Obama going in or Gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson w/ McCain?

Lighten up Obama is trying to make nice and he is going to be President.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:03 PM
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1. This simplistic argument doesn't get any better the 100,000th time it's posted
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:03 PM
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2. I believe this is what we call a "false dichotomy". nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:04 PM
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4. Yes, it's what passes for intelligent argument among the mouthbreathers. n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:05 PM
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Mouthbreathers and A-holes.
Get over it.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:19 PM
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42. Back off
I never said I was intelligent.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:04 PM
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3. There is a range of possibilities between
Robinson and bigot Warren.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:04 PM
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5. There should be NO prayer...
Religion should NOT be a part of the inauguration, or our government!

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:04 PM
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6. Jesus or nobody.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:07 PM
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19. is he available?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:05 PM
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7. A nice Jewish Rabbi would be most appropriate...n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:20 PM
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43. Best of both worlds
Jesus was a jew
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:44 PM
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47. I heard Obama's a secret Jew
:hide:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:47 PM
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52. might be
He might be a half black half white Jewish muslim w/ links to terror.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:05 PM
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8. I know, and Rev. Warren is such a lovely man.
Rick Warren: But the issue to me is, I知 not opposed to that as much as I知 opposed to the redefinition of a 5,000-year definition of marriage. I知 opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage. I知 opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I知 opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.

Steven Waldman: Do you think, though, that they are equivalent to having gays getting married?

Rick Warren: Oh I do.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/16/7415

Who could disagree? And his views on abortion - so steadfast! Not even the life of the mother is to interfere with saving that little fetus's life, because the fetus is more important than the woman, don't you know?

And it's so comforting to know that children will be taught that the earth is only 6,000 years old and any scientific comments to the contrary are ungodly.

Rick Warren is the ideal choice to symbolize Obama's connection to God. Don't you agree? Who wouldn't?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:05 PM
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9. Uh, any forward thinking clergy would do. Start with Manhattan clergy.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:06 PM
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13. I'd do it!!
Ask me! Ask me! :hi:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:05 PM
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10. Oprah after she sends off for her certificate of Preachology
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:05 PM
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11. I'd like to see David Duke up there....in the spirit of reaching out....like an olive branch. nt.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:06 PM
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14. Me too. Big tent and all. nt.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:12 PM
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25. I've been told that I need to learn about being inclusive. David Duke sounds like a good start.
Will the Ku Klux Klan Men's Glee Klub be singing at the inauguration as well? If not, how are we ever going to change minds???
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:33 AM
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70. I propose asking Paul and Jan Crouch
Jan could sing.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:06 PM
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12. You know better than this. n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:45 PM
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48. Just seeing if the snake in the bush would wake up if I bothered it


:rofl:

BTW the answer is yes .... I woke the snake up.

p.s. I am not making fun of snakes, gays, gays who like snakes,
Christians, non-beliviers, or gay Christians who don't like snakes.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:57 PM
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53. That's just evil.
lol
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:09 PM
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58. God Forgive me
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:11 PM
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59. Your penance is to go add a comment here:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:07 PM
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15. I would be happy if there were no prayer at all.
After all, we are supposedly a secular nation.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:07 PM
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16. Gene Robinson with Barack Obama
IIRC, Gene Robinson went out of his way to defend Obama during the McClurkin upset. It's not unreasonable to expect somebody to get what happened in November, but I guess they don't.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:11 PM
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24. Gene Robinson STRONGLY supported Obama. nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:07 PM
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17. Rev. William G. Sinkford
It would be nice to have a prayer led by a member of a church that *doesn't* glorify hate.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:07 PM
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18. How about the Pope? n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:09 PM
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20. Whoever Obama's pastor is, and if he doesn't have one then maybe it's time not to have a prayer.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:09 PM
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21. Couldn't disagree more.
Warren's choice sends a terrible message.

And prayers should have no official place in the inauguration anyway, but if Obama wants to continue this silly tradition, he could have chosen more wisely.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:10 PM
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22. Deepak Chopra
Please God! O8)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:11 PM
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23. That would be nice.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:17 PM
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28. Maybe we can start a petition.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:31 PM
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Did you suggest it at change.gov?? That's a start.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:13 PM
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26. Pir Zia Inayat Khan
because his prayer would be all inclusive.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:15 PM
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27. David Benke
I'd love to see if he would manage to get himself excommunicated or if he'd obey the rules.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:21 PM
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29. Skip the prayer. With Bush finally leaving office, my most urgent prayer's been taken care of.
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 06:22 PM by gkhouston
Do we really need someone "famous" to say the prayer? Why not whoever's senior muckety at the National Cathedral or whoever does the Red Mass in October?
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:23 PM
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30. "I would like Assholes for $100, Alex"
:eyes:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:24 PM
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31. Under my father's bus are many wheels. If it were not so, I would tell you.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:33 PM
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37. LOL!!!
:rofl:

:yourock:

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:02 PM
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56. ROFLMAO!!!
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:31 AM
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64. Gooooooaaaaal!

Oh my. I think I need to change some clothes.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:25 PM
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32. Lighten up? Warren helped take away my civil rights - I will not "Lighten up" n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:25 PM
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33. Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ. It should be one of its pastors.
Preferably the more open and tolerant ones. Which shouldn't be hard to find. Also, a woman, hopefully an openly lesbian woman would be great.

I'm not a Christian so I have no say. But I do like the UCC and their liberal "bias."
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:26 PM
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34. I see...
You're okay with him giving a position that's fairly prominent and will be used as a fundraising and influence peddling position to an anti-Gay POS.

Good for you. :sarcasm:
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:32 PM
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35. Jim Morrisson.


Or The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

(Although, between you and me, I suspect they are One And The Same. :wow: )
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:33 PM
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36. Bill Moyers,
Period.
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Cattledog Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:40 PM
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38. No Prayers! No Space Gods!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:44 PM
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39. I'd prefer no prayer at all.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:47 PM
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40. Richard Dawkins?
It might be nice to have a man who prays for all of us, not just the believers.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:47 PM
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41. No prayer. nt
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:31 PM
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44. Martin Sheen
or Jimmy Carter
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:34 PM
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45. A minister from U.U. would be great, because they accept all beliefs.
Unitarian Universalists.

Get someone who will respect all faiths, or no faith.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:43 PM
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46. No one! No invocations.
It's an outdated and unconstitutional practice that has no place in public functions.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:45 PM
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49. I'd get rid of prayer at inaugurations.
:hide:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:46 PM
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50. God or nobody...
and even then, I'd probably prefer nobody.

Sid
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:46 PM
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51. Let's have a Wiccan summon up the ghost of Harvey Milk....
....to perform the invocation.

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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:00 PM
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54. NO prayer - it does NOT belong at government functions. Let's have REAL separation of church and
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 08:01 PM by kath
state.
Keep religion in the home or houses of worship -- the ONLY places it belongs.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:01 PM
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55. Why not continue to make nice and invite a white supremacist to give another invocation?
"If you sleep with dogs, you will get fleas".
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:18 PM
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60. If you don't understand the need for a mainstream Christian
to do this, especially because Barack Obama is taking the oath then you are truly politically tone deaf. The no prayer people are in la la land and haven't a clue which country and century they are in.

Now, it could have been someone other than the fuckbag Warren, I'll grant that but the odds of any mainstream Christian preacher not offending many on here for exactly the same and quite easily more are pretty negligible.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:17 PM
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61. thanx
good post

my idea is that Rick Warren in a no good Ass Hat .... Feeding McCain the ?s before
his time @ Warren's church is more than enough to let anybody know that .....
but my overall thought is eyes on the prize ... eyes on the prize ..... Obama will be
President.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:25 AM
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62. "Bob".


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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:27 AM
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63. Barack Obama ......
... I would then love to hear him lead us in a round of "God Bless America."
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:43 AM
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65. Anton LaVey.
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:43 AM by MrSlayer
Unfortunately, he's no longer with us. Though even his corpse would be a better pick than Warren.
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:54 AM
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66. Bill Maher. nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:10 PM
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67. Here's who I would have chosen... no pun intended...
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 04:12 PM by zulchzulu


Father Guido Sarducci! Goddamn it!

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 08:13 PM
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68. His Holiness the Dalai Lama would be a great choice!
We should pelt Warren with donuts!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 08:15 PM
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69. Bishop Gene Robinson. Since you asked.
Thanks for asking. That was an easy question.
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