Has Obama lost your vote in 2012?

[ecstatic]

[marylanddem]

1. not yet, but he seems to be working on it.

[Pisces]

2. What has lost me is some fools on DU.

[a la izquierda]

4. Ding, ding, ding!

We have a winner!

[October]

5. Agreed.

[City Lights]

12. +1 nt.

[Alexander]

15. You win the thread.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

26. Absolutely.

[high density]

48. This place is more painful now than it was during the primary

The most painful thing is how every fucking person feels the need to start their own thread on the subject, and there's no moderation to keep it under control (i.e. confined to a few threads instead of the entire forum.)

[CatWoman]

50. sure wish I could recommend your post

[RoyGBiv]

51. delete

wrong place

[Arkana]

58. Going with this.

Obama's not anti-gay. He never has been and never will be.

[Kaylee]

62. Agreed. WTF is going on around here.

[geckosfeet]

3. !!!

You are making my head hurt a lot!

I would say that any cogent, conscious, sentient being would at least want to consider who he is running against.

[racaulk]

6. I'm in the "wait and see" camp.

He will likely still have my vote in 2012, but the extent to which I will contribute and volunteer my time will be determined by what he does between now and then.

[elizm]

7. What a ridiculous post. nt

[Mrs. Overall]

8. This is why Democrats have only been in power 8 of the last 28 years.

The election was a month ago and already he's not good enough.

[mwei924]

23. Fuck yeah.

Sometimes I totally understand why Democrats lose elections when circumstances favor us. Maybe after 10th time, we'll get it.

[Tesha]

25. Well, he's spent most of November and December pissing on the people who walked miles of streets...

to elect him. Do you really think it was fat-cat DLC types out there doing the
canvassing? No, it was progressives and liberal lefties.

And for our trouble, we've gotten exactly *ZERO* representation in the Obama
administration. By comparison, Republicans are being treated like royalty.

Well, perhaps he can be re-elected in 2012 by Republicans.

Tesha

[Spider Jerusalem]

36. ....

SOCIAL GROUPS AND THE PRESIDENTIAL VOTE, 2008
	        Size 	Obama 	McCain 	Other
Party 				
Democratic 	39% 	89% 	10% 	1%
Independent 	29% 	52% 	44% 	4%
Republican 	32% 	9% 	90% 	1%
Ideology 				
Liberal 	22% 	89% 	10% 	1%
Moderate 	44% 	60% 	39% 	1%
Conservative 	34% 	20% 	78% 	2%
Race 				
Black 	13% 	95% 	4% 	1%
Hispanic 	9% 	67% 	31% 	2%
White 	74% 	43% 	55% 	2%
Asian 	2% 	62% 	35% 	3%
Other 	3% 	66% 	31% 	3%
Sex 				
Female 	53% 	56% 	43% 	1%
Male 	47% 	49% 	48% 	0%
Religion 				
Protestant 	54% 	45% 	54% 	1%
Catholic 	27% 	54% 	45% 	1%
Jewish 	2% 	78% 	21% 	1%
Other 	6% 	73% 	22% 	5%
Family Income 				
Less than $15,000 	6% 	73% 	25% 	2%
$15,000–$29,999 	12% 	60% 	37% 	3%
$30,000-$49,999 	19% 	55% 	43% 	2%
$50,000-$74,999 	21% 	48% 	49% 	3%
$75,000-$99,999 	15% 	51% 	48% 	1%
$100,000-$149,999 	14% 	48% 	51% 	1%
$150,000-$199,999 	6% 	48% 	50% 	2%
Greater than $200,000 	6% 	52% 	46% 	2%
Education 				
No High School 	4% 	63% 	35% 	2%
H.S. Graduate 	20% 	52% 	46% 	2%
Some College 	31% 	51% 	47% 	2%
College Graduate 	28% 	50% 	48% 	2%
Postgraduate Study 	17% 	58% 	40% 	2%
Union Membership 				
Union Member 	12% 	59% 	39% 	3%
Non-Union Member 	88% 	51% 	47% 	2%
Age 				
18–29 years old 	18% 	66% 	32% 	2%
30-44 years old 	29% 	52% 	46% 	2%
45–64 years old 	37% 	50% 	49% 	1%
65 years or older 	16% 	45% 	53% 	2%
Region 				
Northeast 	21% 	59% 	40% 	1%
South 	32% 	45% 	54% 	1%
Midwest 	24% 	54% 	44% 	2%
West 	23% 	57% 	40% 	3%
Sexual Orientation 				
Heterosexual 	96% 	53% 	45% 	2%
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual 	4% 	70% 	27% 	3%
Gun Ownership 				
Gun Owner in Household 	42% 	37% 	62% 	1%
No Gun Owner in Household 	58% 	65% 	33% 	2%
Bush Approval 				
Approve 	27% 	10% 	89% 	1%
Disapprove 	71% 	67% 	31% 	2%

[Abq_Sarah]

40. And there it is

Liberal 22%
Moderate 44%
Conservative 34%

That's it in a nutshell. If President elect Obama wants a second term, he has to appeal to the majority of people who will be going to the polls in 2012. The best we can hope for is a center left Presidency.

[Lilith Velkor]

41. Whoa. Give it up for the high school dropouts!

:applause:

[Spider Jerusalem]

42. Not noted in that demographic breakdown...

because of socioeconomic factors, high school dropouts are disproportionately likely to be members of minority groups (who were already more predisposed to vote for Obama than McCain).

[Tesha]

61. I'm not talking about votes; I'm talking about shoe-leather on the streets.

The grunt work of the 2008 campaign was done by progressives
and liberals and definitely *NOT* by fat-cat DLCers. I know; I was
one of the people out there on the streets doing the grunting!

Tesha

[quiller4]

59. So-o-o-o True

[ecstatic]

63. It saddens me because there is so much we have to do

and we'll never get there if the left is ready to dump him so quickly over meaningless gestures.

What about healthcare? What about jobs? What about education?

Apparently none of that matters. We are doomed to having the likes of Palin running this nation because we don't know how to unify.

[gblady]

9. future tripping much?

man....unbelievable!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

10. There's no way an intelligent, thinking, cautious person can lose

the 2012 vote if shrub didn't lose the 2004 election.... after all the moronic things he did for 4 years.

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. Maybe he could become president, first?

This is like Freeper talk.

[endarkenment]

13. Shock: I can be pissed off at him and still vote for him.

What is the choice? Compromised bigotry vs outright bigotry? We don't have a functional democracy, we have a dysfunctional corrupt duopoly run by and for the corporate kleptocratic elites.

[Solon]

14. I'll take hyperbole and assholishness for 100 Alex.

Ugh. :eyes:

[sellitman]

16. You are Effin nuts!

He isn't President yet.

WTF?

[ecstatic]

17. I just assumed most of DU was "done"

with Obama. The results are surprising or maybe the Yes people are keeping silent.

[Posteritatis]

37. I'm getting the latter impression

But that's just me seeing sixty threads out of seventy-five on the first page of GD:P being various "Obama is teh evilz!" rants. Even the freepers aren't quite that focused in their vitriol right now.

Granted, considering the about of Marxist sloganeering going on last week, I'm kind of getting the impression the louder chunks of DU are somewhere to the left of Kucinich these days.

(And, IIRC, it actually is a bannable offense to vote the wrong way on some polls, so presumably some people wouldn't vote yes for that reason. Myself, I didn't vote at all, but that's because I'm outside of the US.)

[Seldona]

38. DU done with Obama? Seriously?

I don't think so. I'm not silent, but I do tend to avoid the threads critizing Obama for cabinet picks, etc. I am in the 'wait until he President' camp I guess.

There is so much more here.

[Inspired]

18. Good Lord, no.

[DCBob]

19. If the elections were held today Obama would win in a massive landslide.

He has a 67% confidence/approval according to Gallup tracking poll.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/112006/Gallup-Daily-Confidence-Obama.aspx

[Political Tiger]

20. Seems immature at this point.

He's not even been sworn in yet!

[mwei924]

21. Yes, because Huckabee is gonna be SOOOO much better on gay rights.

[Bucky]

22. In addition to being my leader, he's also my employee. His job duties include...

...ensuring civil rights for all Americans. If my employee doesn't do his job right, I won't just up and fire him. But he's damn sure gonna hear from me if he shows contempt for the work that he was hired to do.

[Mojambo]

24. No. It would be unfair to judge so soon.

I would say that he's off to a rather uninspiring start though.

[Blue_In_AK]

27. Obama gets no free pass from me.

2012 is a long time from now.

[stillcool]

28. I might not be alive in 2012...

in any case I'll wait till he is President before I decide whether he should be re-elected

[Grateful for Hope]

29. No.

absolutely not.

[leftofthedial]

30. he has not lost my vote.

I hope his term is successful and that he's the greatest leader since FDR.

I criticize him roundly. So far, I give him a C-. I think it is unfair that as PE he has been forced to be so proactive. It makes for a short honeymoon when you're "on call" all during the wedding night.

But, I like him more than dislike him. I admire his competence and the competence of his picks so far (although I think most of them are competent at the wrong things.)

Good luck and congratulations to PE Obama! My hopes are riding *heavily* on you.

[Danger Mouse]

31. Who voted yes? The village idiot or the village asshole?

[DevonRex]

32. *snort*

It's always you, Elrond. Every darned time. Thanks. :)

[Danger Mouse]

35. You're welcome.

:D
:pals:
Sad thing is, I can probably name the people who WOULD vote yes on this.

[ronnykmarshall]

33. Of course not.

While I'm pissed as hell about this Warren asshole, I'm not going to give up on Obama.

What has lost me is the "get over it" responces to the outrage from people like me.

[Yukari Yakumo]

34. I see two people in urgent need of a tombstone.

By the way, mods know who picked the "Yes" option.

[TheKentuckian]

39. I'm fairly locked in

I'm not seeing how Palin, Crist, Jindal, JEB, Huckabee, or Mitt will serve us better than even a lackluster Obama Administration.

Many here wouldn't give FDR the time of day with his horrible civil Rights record.

[harun]

43. I'll know by March or April.

[SoxFan]

44. Welcome to Green Underground

Please piss in the cup so we may perform a purity inspection.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

45. What a stupid question, and stupid poll for a month before the man takes office.

[Condem]

47. Amen, Mayberry.

Better yet. Let's have a second chance election for McCain and Palin. Yeah, that will work.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

52. It's too bad we can't rate threads down on DU.

[DCBob]

46. This is nonsense. I cannot take anyone seriously that would ready to dump Obama...

even before he has taken office.

[RiverStone]

49. ONE issue or TWO...and thats it?!

Geez, did you expect 100% agreement? Shit, he has not even taken office yet! I'm mad too, but he would have to do a heck of a lot more crazy bad to ever consider not voting for him.

Even in anger at this crazy Warren thing, I'm still thrilled we will no longer have a criminal in the House!!!

[Clio the Leo]

53. There is ALREADY an "Obama '12" bumper sticker on my car....

.... and I aint takin' it off neitha!

[DCBob]

55. Nice!

Obama/Biden 2012!!!

:bounce:

[Clio the Leo]

56. Yeah, unfortunately no Obama/Biden '12 stickers at Cafepress yet...

.... at least not one that would look good on my car.



http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/sticker-bumper/331504115

[Sultana]

54. LAME THREAD! He's not even prez yet

Whiners you're embarrassing yourselves w/ these kinds of threads.

[ShadowLiberal]

57. If Obama has lost your vote already then you must want him to act like you all the time as president

Seriously, how can someone lose your vote in their next election four years from now, before they even take office?

If Obama is pissing you off to the point that you seriously think you might not vote for him in 2012 then you must be expecting him to do everything you would 100% of the time, which is being highly unrealistic.

The fact is Bush would have looked like he was going to govern more as a moderate then he actually did if you judged him solely on his original cabinet picks before taking office. Just because Obama doesn't always pick the people you wanted for his cabinet, and made a few PR moves that you feel give in too much to republicans doesn't mean that Obama is going to govern as a republican.

[varelse]

60. He hasn't been inaugurated yet

and we won't be voting in another President for nearly four years. I'll see how he does with his first term before I make up my mind how to vote on his next one ;)

[Beacool]

64. It all depends how he performs in the next 4 years.

I'm done with voting for a candidate only because they have a "D" after their name. For example, if Tweety runs in PA I'll be campaigning for any person of any party who runs against the detestable sexist creep.

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